• News about durgs 2011 - interesting shit you want to know about
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[QUOTE=HeatPipe;31868854]Your avatar fits perfectly.[/QUOTE] Childish Gambino agrees with me wholeheartedly
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31868835]Oh my fucking god. Oh my fucking god. Let me give you the dates for when various cotton related machinery was invented. Flying shuttle - 1733 Spinning jenny - 1764 Spinning mule - 1779 Power loom - 1785 Cotton gin - 1793 These inventions massively boosted the cotton that could be processed, spun and woven. Cotton production went up massively. The cotton imported by Britain in 1701 was 1,985,868 pounds. By 1800 it was 56,010,732 pounds. In 1701 the value exported was £23,253, and a century later it had increased to £5,406,501. Cotton production skyrocketed, and money began to be made as it moved from cottages into factories. In the United States, the first restrictions for sale of cannabis came in 1906 (in District of Columbia). If hemp was such a miracle crop, why did cotton suddenly surpass it in the 1700s, and yet it could compete for centuries?[/QUOTE] Because cannabis was processed by humans. If you would make machine that process cannabis,it would eat cotton right away. Both has it's pros and cons, there is absolutely no reason against cannabis. Unless it murdered your family. Also: [img]http://unctad.org/infocomm/anglais/cotton/Images/utlisationsbourres.gif[/img] [img]http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Cannabis/hemp-3.gif[/img] And: [img]http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Cannabis/L05710597R_detail.jpg[/img]
idk what your problem is sobotnik
he does this in any drug-related thread
Drugs r bad.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;31869118]he does this in any drug-related thread[/QUOTE] figured
Oh hey it's the argument that weed should be legal because it can be paper and rope and that crap Good news, weed should only be legal because there's no reason for it not to be, but you're not doing yourselves any favors by claiming the miracles defense of it
I have a pair of shoes made of hemp, they don't fit me anymore
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;31860542]Cannabis has the potential to prevent neural degradation? Hmm, interesting.[/QUOTE] Yeah, iirc THC and it's metabolites protect against demyelination and act as neuroprotective anti-oxidants
[QUOTE=Greenen72;31869158]Oh hey it's the argument that weed should be legal because it can be paper and rope and that crap Good news, weed should only be legal because there's no reason for it not to be, but you're not doing yourselves any favors by claiming the miracles defense of it[/QUOTE] You have point. But, telling people all that may change their minds more easily than not telling them.
[QUOTE=HeatPipe;31869066]Because cannabis was processed by humans. If you would make machine that process cannabis,it would eat cotton right away. Both has it's pros and cons, there is absolutely no reason against cannabis. Unless it murdered your family. Also: [img]http://unctad.org/infocomm/anglais/cotton/Images/utlisationsbourres.gif[/img] [img]http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Cannabis/hemp-3.gif[/img] And: [img]http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Cannabis/L05710597R_detail.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I wish to ask, if Hemp had thousands of years to build machinery to produce it to remain economically viable, why did it not do so? Hemp is six times the cost of wood pulp. [url]http://www.uky.edu/Classes/GEN/101/Hemp/HEMP98.PDF[/url] [quote]Hemp has never been used for commercial (or high-volume) paper production due to its relatively high processing cost. According to the Dutch Institute for Agrotechnolgical Endeavors, the average hemp pulp and paper mill produces about 5,000 tons per year, compared to a minimum of 250,000 tons for a wood fiber pulp mill.[/quote] You may also consider that it is also more damaging to the environment. [quote]Current hemp pulping techniques produce a significant amount of chemical-contaminated waste water. Hemp fiber can also be bleached, similar to wood pulp, further creating environmental problems.[/quote] The reason Hemp is not used is because it was superseded by new materials that specialised in their fields that were vastly more efficient. Hemp was good at being a jack of all trades but now it is obsolete and has little use beyond that of smoking (Which provides little benefit in itself.) [QUOTE=TehWhale;31869118]he does this in any drug-related thread[/QUOTE] It's because people constantly claim hemp and cannabis are fucking miracles, and it drives me sick because of the exaggerated bullshit that stoners peddle just so they can get a puff. I have no actual opposition to the legalisation of weed, but I hate those who claim its better than neutral. [QUOTE=HeatPipe;31869309]You have point. But, telling people all that may change their minds more easily than not telling them.[/QUOTE] Oh Jesus Christ! Lying to people for personal gain? You pathetic bastard.
[QUOTE=HeatPipe;31869309]You have point. But, telling people all that may change their minds more easily than not telling them.[/QUOTE] Yes and it's also intellectually dishonest and you'd be shot down in any kind of format that uses proof instead of telling someone about how it has "undiscovered benefits"
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31869334]Hemp was good at being a jack of all trades but now it is obsolete and has little use beyond that of smoking ([b]Which provides little benefit in itself.[/b])[/QUOTE]I guess you missed all the medical benefits it has?
[QUOTE=TehWhale;31869453]I guess you missed all the medical benefits it has?[/QUOTE] It sure does have a medical benefit, clamping your mouth round a joint is much healthier than clamping it around a exhaust pipe from a running automobile.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31869517]It sure does have a medical benefit, clamping your mouth round a joint is much healthier than clamping it around a exhaust pipe from a running automobile.[/QUOTE]I didn't think they made people this retarded
[QUOTE=TehWhale;31869453]I guess you missed all the medical benefits it has?[/QUOTE] I never get tired of people referencing obscure things to support their point
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31869517]It sure does have a medical benefit, clamping your mouth round a joint is much healthier than clamping it around a exhaust pipe from a running automobile.[/QUOTE] wow your are a new kind of dumb
[QUOTE=TehWhale;31869541]I didn't think they made people this retarded[/QUOTE] It is merely a light drug. It isn't a great industrial or medical product. All its good for is smoking in light quantities to produce a euphoric effect. You are actually the biased one, as you want it to be legal so badly you will support bullshit studies that have little to prove them and refuse to listen to facts, instead obtaining all drug related news from pro-drug websites in a futile effort to get it legalised. I would support it being legalised, but it disgusts me knowing that people like you would advocate lying to people in order to do so. [QUOTE=beanhead;31869592]wow [b]your are[/b] a new kind of dumb[/QUOTE] No comment.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis[/url] thanks
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31869662] No comment.[/QUOTE] yet you comment anyway? Just to say "No comment?" [editline]21st August 2011[/editline] Your logic is odd to say the least
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31869517]It sure does have a medical benefit, clamping your mouth round a joint is much healthier than clamping it around a exhaust pipe from a running automobile.[/QUOTE] Because you can only smoke marijuana.
[QUOTE]Oh Jesus Christ! Lying to people for personal gain? You pathetic bastard.[/QUOTE] Hey, you mentioned Jesus! I think he was biggest hippie in history. He supposedly said "Love your enemy". Also what personal gain? What the fuck are you smoking? It's not my gain, it's gain of whole humanity. Lying? point out what and I will reply, maybe I made mistake somewhere. Sorry, I am human too. Maybe I said cannabis should be shown as a miracle. But alcohol is portrayed as miracle too in some todays media/ads everywhere, why cannabis shouldn't be? (Ok bad argument, alcohol is too evil). Sobotnik, you mentioned you have no problems with legalizing cannabis, but you rant because argument for legalizing cannabis is that it has industrial use and that argument drives you crazy. Even if better materials exist. It happens. It drives me too crazy sometimes(because I hear it too often), but it shall not be denied nor rejected. Should better argument be medical use? Or like, drug to replace alcohol? I can spawn you many arguments. It also smells nicely. It's also good for cooking. Cannabis has interesting chemistry, therefore, interesting chemistry can happen. It's also funny, because many police officers seems baked. But that is another story. And even funier, it's easier to get cannabis than it is to get alcohol. Anyway, good night.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;31869683][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis[/url] thanks[/QUOTE] From the wiki itself. [quote]The United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an advisory against smoked medical marijuana stating that, "marijuana has a high potential for abuse, has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, and has a lack of accepted safety for use under medical supervision. Furthermore, there is currently sound evidence that smoked marijuana is harmful."[113] The National Institute on Drug Abuse NIDA state that ”Marijuana itself is an unlikely medication candidate for several reasons: (1) it is an unpurified plant containing numerous chemicals with unknown health effects; (2) it is typically consumed by smoking further contributing to potential adverse effects; and (3) its cognitive impairing effects may limit its utility”.[/quote] I still see little evidence that smoking it is inherently good for you.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31869896]From the wiki itself. I still see little evidence that smoking it is inherently good for you.[/QUOTE] what about vaporizing?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31869896]From the wiki itself. I still see little evidence that smoking it is inherently good for you.[/QUOTE] you actually believe that? edit: sorry mistook smoking for just generally ingesting it
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31869896] I still see little evidence that smoking it is inherently good for you.[/QUOTE] Smoking marijuana is bad for you because smoking anything is bad for you. That's why you should vape or bake.
[QUOTE=beanhead;31869910]you actually believe that?[/QUOTE] It's as legitimate as anything else in the article
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;31869903]what about vaporizing?[/QUOTE] I said smoking, smoking it still does not provide health benefits. [QUOTE=HeatPipe;31869833]Also what personal gain? What the fuck are you smoking? It's not my gain, it's gain of whole humanity.[/QUOTE] The humanity that wishes to get stoned. The rest don't wish to, or are too busy trying to stay alive.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31869967]I said smoking, smoking it still does not provide health benefits.[/QUOTE] fair enough, I've never really been an advocate of weed [I]because[/I] of the health benefits anyway, I'm an advocate because it feels pretty fucking good when I smoke it. I'd also snort cocaine and take bennies, so I'm not wholly worried about medical benefits.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31869967]I said smoking, smoking it still does not provide health benefits.[/QUOTE] smoking does provide health benefits, it just also comes coupled with the dangers that the smoke it self presents, same with the smoke of anything
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