Donald Trump overtakes Hillary Clinton for first time since May in ABC poll
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Actually having lived in Texas, I can tell you it is pretty Purple.
It's more of the district lines on why it votes the way it does.
[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;51293598]And yet somehow he "overtakes" hillary on some polls? Where were the polls taken? Middle of nowhere hill, AL? TX?[/QUOTE]
The states where the populations have the right mindset.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51293531]Honestly it's fucking embarrassing for all of America and every single American that Trump has anything more than 1%.[/QUOTE]
it's both because people drink the kool-aid when it comes to trumps policies, and the fact that choosing hillary was a bad idea, she has way too much baggage. If the republicans chose pretty much any other candidate, you can bet that (regardless of policies) they would be beating hillary. same goes on the flip side of the democrats chose any other candidate against trump. It's pretty sad.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51293605]Lol Nate Bronze is melting down on Twitter posting all sorts of weird crap. He was totally wrong about Trump in the primaries and he's going to be wrong here. Him and his organization are an embarrassment now.[/QUOTE]
out of everyone predicting, nate thinks that trump has the highest chance of winning so if you think he's wrong...
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51293592]What exactly are they looking forward to other than a despotic narcissist in office?
Looking forward to their lives getting better? lmao[/QUOTE]
sticking it to the SJWs probably
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;51293513]Have you seen the averages lately? Clinton has gone from ~+7 to ~+2 in the past 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]
Those sorts of leads rarely last. It was fun while it was there, but no one really seriously expected it to stay. We'll have a trump-bounce up to this 2%ish difference, then it'll go back down to stabilize at around 47%-43%.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51293605]Lol Nate Bronze is melting down on Twitter posting all sorts of weird crap. He was totally wrong about Trump in the primaries and he's going to be wrong here. Him and his organization are an embarrassment now.[/QUOTE]
He was wrong in the primaries and then he admitted he was wrong and actually improved his models.
[URL="http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/"]full article here[/URL]
That's more than can be said of Trump's policies, since they're still objectively bad even after everyone has told his campaign they are.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293603]Can a trump supporter please outline to me what positives they see in a Trump presidency without mentioning Hillary?[/QUOTE]
Reposting
He has no time left unless he surges up in pools faster than ever before for whatever reason.
Strong second amendment rights.
No TPP.
Trey Gowdy as AG.
Won't do a No fly-zone
The internal destruction of the GOP and DNC.
Atleast these are some for me.
I await your next post telling me how dare I vote for him just for these though.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293603]Can a trump supporter please outline to me what positives they see in a Trump presidency without mentioning Hillary?[/QUOTE]
You're beating your head against a brick wall asking them to give any valid reasons why a Trump presidency is good for America. All they see is an idiot 'saying things like it is' and somebody who isn't 'crooked Illary Clinton' without realizing that Clinton is comparatively speaking nowhere nearly as horrible as the annoying orange Oompa Loompa. What puzzled me the most is when Sanders supporters switched bases to support Trump purely because of his anti-establishment tone, not that rocking the boat for the sake of rocking it has ever worked out well. Sanders himself came out in support for Clinton purely for the reason that he needed to endorse her to ensure party unity, and that it was important for the annoying orange to be kept out of the Oval Office. The likes of Trump, playing the field using demagoguery, nativism, and appealing to the lowest common denominator of the population, cannot be trusted with, and should not have any place in the corridors of power. All the reasons why he's a bad choice have long been exhausted to perdition with how often they were repeated, none of which ever received any rebuttal by Trumpsters other than "He's a better choice than Crooked $hillary".
Increasingly nervous man is getting to peak nervosity.
1 week to go until Doomsday.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293648]Strong second amendment rights.
[B]Except for those arbitrarily put on "no fly lists"[/B]
No TPP.
[B]Clinton is against that as well[/B]
Trey Gowdy as AG.
[B]Meh[/B]
Won't do a No fly-zone
[B]I can agree on this[/B]
The internal destruction of the GOP and DNC.
[B]That's a retarded reason. This should come through electing a proper delegate that takes votes away from the major parties, not electing a buffoon[/B]
Atleast these are some for me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293648]Strong second amendment rights.
No TPP.
Trey Gowdy as AG.
Won't do a No fly-zone
The internal destruction of the GOP and DNC.
Atleast these are some for me.
I await your next post telling me how dare I vote for him just for these though.[/QUOTE]
You want a fucking Tea Party crackpot to be AG, and are willing to go for someone who shits on all rights, including the second amendment? Oh yes, remember those 'no fly lists = no guns?'
A joke you are sir, a joke.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51293668]You want a fucking Tea Party crackpot to be AG, and are willing to go for someone who shits on all rights, including the second amendment? Oh yes, remember those 'no fly lists = no guns?'
A joke you are sir, a joke.[/QUOTE]
I think some of yall are jokes aswell.
And hey, my boy Trey Gowdy ain't that crazy.
And also I should have put "Stronger." on the 2nd amendment one I guess.
[QUOTE=Achilles11;51293556]The banshee cannot win.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Achilles11;51293515]How in denial are you brother?[/QUOTE]
Well, gee.
I understand that Trump supporters think they have to gain from generating momentum out of the relative tightening of the race, but to put things in perspective, Clinton's chances of winning are the same as those she had between the first two debates. Trump would need all of the current swing states, [b]and[/b] a couple of states from Clinton's firewall.
Considering the fact that most voters in Nevada vote early, and that Clinton's numbers are already [url=http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-early-vote-in-nevada-suggests-clinton-might-beat-her-polls-there/]exceeding expectations[/url] there, things are looking pretty bleak for the Trump campaign. A couple more swing states with such numbers, and he's pretty much toast.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51293605]Lol Nate Bronze.[/QUOTE]
/pol/ memes, tho.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293674]
And hey, my boy Trey Gowdy ain't that crazy.[/QUOTE]
[url=https://thinkprogress.org/gop-congressman-compares-same-sex-marriage-to-incest-polygamy-during-congressional-hearing-ed981f2eedeb#.g9kad2zqx]Compares same-sex marriage to incest[/url]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293627]Reposting[/QUOTE]
His foreign policy [I]could[/I] be better than Hillary's (and that's a very tentative could), supposing that he means what he says, and given a favorable interpretation of the often vague and meaningless things that come out of his mouth. His claim to want to kill the families of ISIS terrorists could, perhaps, be somewhat less criminal than the current administration's policy of killing anyone they please without due process. Trump could also be less likely to continue pushing NATO directly to the borders of Russia, which would cause a civilization-threatening war.
But all of these potential areas where Trump could be better really don't outweigh the areas where he will be far worse.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293648]Strong second amendment rights.
No TPP.
Trey Gowdy as AG.
Won't do a No fly-zone
The internal destruction of the GOP and DNC.
Atleast these are some for me.[/QUOTE]
Hillary is against TPP
Trey Gowdy is Pro Life, wants to ban federal health coverage if it includes abortion, wants to include fetuses in 14th amendment protection, is against family planning, voted against the VAWA, rated 0% by UFCW, [B][I]doesn't accept global warming, voted in favor of extending the PATRIOT act's wiretaps.[/I][/B]
And destruction of the GOP and DNC would happen better if Trump lost by a landslide.
And even if you like all of this, is being able to own assault rifles and shotguns worth potentially destroying the world economy with Trump's objectively awful economic proposals and ruining America on the world stage with his awful foreign policy and temperament and kill tens of thousands of people a year more than currently die due to lack of healthcare?
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293674]And also I should have put "Stronger." on the 2nd amendment one I guess.[/QUOTE]
I don't even like the second amendment but I'm telling you you're making a huge mistake voting for Trump on it. And the fact you're willing to sacrifice other, much more important amendment rights for Trump's populist position on the matter is laughable.
And I'm sorry. Tea Party people are by definition pretty nutty. They're the ones that loved Sarah Palin for christ's sake.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293627]Reposting[/QUOTE]
Sure.
If you like firearms, you are better voting for a Republican candidate with the possibility of having the better half of the table whenever gun control drama comes up.
Actually doing something at the border, anything even, is better then just giving militia movement a handjob by telling them the Fed doesn't give a shit. By not doing anything, all we accomplish is further increasing the numbers of the more radical groups at the border, and allowing them to gain more funding from ranchers which actively fund them in numbers I cannot even begin to put on paper.
I feel we need to get rid of the ACA and replace it with something that's not built on sinking sand, and also have a feeling that if a Democrat is elected, that they will either be cockblocked by Congress/Senate or will feel to proud of the shitshow the ACA is, and will not bother getting rid of it.
Also, I kinda like the idea of not escalating the shitshow that is Syria. That whole, "no fly zone" is silly, and probably drag us into a war which will either lead to a massive conflict or lead to a regional shitshow.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293648]Strong second amendment rights.
No TPP.
Trey Gowdy as AG.
Won't do a No fly-zone
The internal destruction of the GOP and DNC.
Atleast these are some for me.
I await your next post telling me how dare I vote for him just for these though.[/QUOTE]
How is taking away guns from people that are placed into an arbitrary terrorist watchlist "strong" 2nd rights?
[url]https://ig.ft.com/us-elections/polls[/url]
looking at this, comparing the swing states, hillary can win NC and win, where trump needs almost EVERY swing state (including states currently almost swinging 5% in favour of hillary)
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293689][url=https://thinkprogress.org/gop-congressman-compares-same-sex-marriage-to-incest-polygamy-during-congressional-hearing-ed981f2eedeb#.g9kad2zqx]Compares same-sex marriage to incest[/url][/QUOTE]
[quote]He ain't that crazy[/quote]
But yeah, I have seen that before. Still a good lawyer.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;51293582]Jeez it scares the hell out of me he actually has a chance.[/QUOTE]
Why?
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51293710]
If you like firearms, you are better voting for a Republican candidate with the possibility of having the better half of the table whenever gun control drama comes up.[/quote]
I don't even give a fuck about that because nothing happened during the Obama administration
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51293710]
Actually doing something at the border, anything even, is better then just giving militia movement a handjob by telling them the Fed doesn't give a shit. By not doing anything, all we accomplish is further increasing the numbers of the more radical groups at the border, and allowing them to gain more funding from ranchers which actively fund them in numbers I cannot even begin to put on paper.
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Waste billions for something that won't work
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51293710]
I feel we need to get rid of the ACA and replace it with something that's not built on sinking sand, and also have a feeling that if a Democrat is elected, that they will either be cockblocked by Congress/Senate or will feel to proud of the shitshow the ACA is, and will not bother getting rid of it.
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If the Republicans hadn't neutered the hell out of it, it would have been fine
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51293710]
Also, I kinda like the idea of not escalating the shitshow that is Syria. That whole, "no fly zone" is silly, and probably drag us into a war which will either lead to a massive conflict or lead to a regional shitshow.[/QUOTE]
So we let Russia walk all over the place bombing civilians and allied forces however they want
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51293710]Sure.
If you like firearms, you are better voting for a Republican candidate with the possibility of having the better half of the table whenever gun control drama comes up.
Actually doing something at the border, anything even, is better then just giving militia movement a handjob by telling them the Fed doesn't give a shit. By not doing anything, all we accomplish is further increasing the numbers of the more radical groups at the border, and allowing them to gain more funding from ranchers which actively fund them in numbers I cannot even begin to put on paper.
I feel we need to get rid of the ACA and replace it with something that's not built on sinking sand, and also have a feeling that if a Democrat is elected, that they will either be cockblocked by Congress/Senate or will feel to proud of the shitshow the ACA is, and will not bother getting rid of it.
Also, I kinda like the idea of not escalating the shitshow that is Syria. That whole, "no fly zone" is silly, and probably drag us into a war which will either lead to a massive conflict or lead to a regional shitshow.[/QUOTE]
I like guns, I wouldn't vote for Trump.
Border wall would increase crime rate, be a money sink and have no effect on drugs or immigrants moving in from Mexico.
Improve the ACA by not having retarded republicans try to fuck it at every opportunity. The original ACA proposal would have been so much better and closer to single payer, but republicans ruined it. That's not even partisanship or being a pundit, it's a matter of record.
A no fly zone is the most sensible move right now, and is a thousand times better than having someone with Trump's temperament in charge of foreign policy.
Hopefully they get exactly 50/50 and take turns being president one day each.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51293605]Lol Nate Bronze is melting down on Twitter posting all sorts of weird crap. He was totally wrong about Trump in the primaries and he's going to be wrong here. Him and his organization are an embarrassment now.[/QUOTE]
There is something bizarre about watching leftists cheer for Trump. I get not liking Clinton, but do you hate her [I]that much[/I] to anticipate a Trump victory?
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