• Donald Trump overtakes Hillary Clinton for first time since May in ABC poll
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[QUOTE=Tudd;51293722]But yeah, I have seen that before. Still a good lawyer.[/QUOTE] Single rate tax system, repeal capital gains and death tax against the iranian nuclear deal is almost completely against social security wants to ban admission of ANY SYRIAN RESIDENTS on top of what i mentioned before (denies global warming, expands the PATRIOT act, against planned parenthood, against abortion) Like what the fuck
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;51293744]lmao. Democrats want to cut military spending (even though we're already critically undermanned) but at the same time they support fucking retarded policies like enforcing a no-fly zone in Syria. Are you shitting me? You're willing to start a second Cold War but you don't even want to bolster our military spending?[/QUOTE] Isn't it enough to spend more than the next 10 something countries? If I lived in America and got to choose from getting better Healthcare and education or invading a bunch of countries most people couldn't point to on a map that is not a threat to us safety, it would be an easy pick.
[QUOTE=Cructo;51293779]is this one supposed to be a negative point?[/QUOTE] Yes unless you want Iran to get nukes??
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;51293744]ou're willing to start a second Cold War but you don't even want to bolster our military spending?[/QUOTE] A cold war where one country has 9 times the military spending of the other (and that's not including the rest of NATO) is already hilariously lopsided.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;51293605]Lol Nate Bronze is melting down on Twitter posting all sorts of weird crap. He was totally wrong about Trump in the primaries and he's going to be wrong here. Him and his organization are an embarrassment now.[/QUOTE] Again, that thing there isn't Nate's opinion about what will happen, it's the likelihood, according to their statistical model, that either Hillary or Trump will win, based on [I]current[/I] polls. If the polls show Hillary consistently in the lead, it's gonna reflect that - it doesn't take Trump's personality or the ignorance of the American voting populace into account, it simply makes a prediction based on the polls. That's probably way more simplification than warranted, but if Nate's model predicts a 30% risk of Trump winning - and he wins - well then, Nate Silver's "embarrassment" apparently made a model that is pretty good at predicting things. Edit: Also I was looking forward to having a pretty certain election because I don't need the stress on top of my exams. Thanks America.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;51293744]lmao. Democrats want to cut military spending (even though we're already critically undermanned) but at the same time they support fucking retarded policies like enforcing a no-fly zone in Syria. Are you shitting me? You're willing to start a second Cold War but you don't even want to bolster our military spending?[/QUOTE] Here's a question, how much of the military industrial complex money is going to waste right now? [url=http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/03/19/85-Trillion-Unaccounted-Should-Congress-Increase-Defense-Budget]MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM[/url] So here's what cutting the military budget would do: force the military to audit its spending and make sure it's actually going somewhere instead of corruption and useless piece of shit projects that no-one, including the military, want and literally nothing else
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293648]Strong second amendment rights. No TPP. Trey Gowdy as AG. Won't do a No fly-zone The internal destruction of the GOP and DNC. Atleast these are some for me. I await your next post telling me how dare I vote for him just for these though.[/QUOTE] I'll give you the second amendment rights one, just maybe. I'll also give you the last one with the DNC and the GOP needing to, if not come apart, at least realize they have to change their line to capture modern voters and be less hardline in some of their stances. Trey Gowdy is a pro-lifer whose claim to fame is trying to gut the Affordable Care Act, cut environmental regulations like his master Trump, and has been vocal about how the Democrats are undermining the rule of law, referring to Obama as a 'king' (?) and is trying to end earmarks for no better reason than for the sake of ending them, not that directing money hasnt already been a function of Congress, failing which the executive does have authority to grant money to the aforementioned individuals or organizations. It has already been noted that there is no difference regardless of who grants the money in a given situation. As for the TPP being canceled, it will lead to financial disaster. Trump has often called TPP, NAFTA, and other deals like them as 'rape' and likened it to individuals wanting to keep the system as it is, saying that he wants a better deal (somehow) for the American citizen. There's the teensy problem of him also repeatedly talking about the (nonexistent) loss of jobs and money such a deal will cause to the American public. Admittedly Clinton is also against the deal, but has provided better reasons from her side and is willing to see a proper renegotiation instead of outright canceling the agreement, as far as I remember.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293728]I don't even give a fuck about that because nothing happened during the Obama administration[/QUOTE] Quiet a bit happened. Several states went full retard with AWB regulations, and you have stuff like the SAFE Act in NY, which was endorsed by the likes of Obama. [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293728]Waste billions for something that won't work[/QUOTE] Doing anything, is better then saying, "COME ON IN GUYS :D" seriously. Country without borders is not a country. You also didn't address the whole militia point, which is what most of my views are based around. I'm fucking terrified of not having something to offset the militia in those areas at the moment. They get way to much funding and areas of operation from ranchers who are sick of the Fed not putting border patrol on the ground. It also goes without saying that the USBP Unions actually actively support Trump. [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293728]If the Republicans hadn't neutered the hell out of it, it would have been fine[/QUOTE] You mean the Democrat party. As far as I'm aware of they actively cockblocked measures from a Bipartisan group which wanted to reach a middle ground, and because of that both parties threw their dicks to the wind and didn't care about reaching compromises. [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293728]So we let Russia walk all over the place bombing civilians and allied forces however they want[/QUOTE] It is not our business. Syria has always been an ally of Russia, since the USSR Days. Russia is actively seeking to help it's ally in the region, and whether or not you agree with that, we are helping our own ally with it's own shitty regime in Iraq. It's pot calling the kettle black. As for the likes of Ukraine, the revolution only put in a new shitty government, and one which is actively influenced by our own. Several companies in Ukraine actually now have the Bidens and Kerrys making agreements with the local gas industry to be executive of their boards. We are literally only there to make profit for the Biden and Kerrys, otherwise we don't really give a shit.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51293769]Single rate tax system, repeal capital gains and death tax against the iranian nuclear deal is almost completely against social security wants to ban admission of ANY SYRIAN RESIDENTS on top of what i mentioned before (denies global warming, expands the PATRIOT act, against planned parenthood, against abortion) Like what the fuck[/QUOTE] He is still a good lawyer. You ever seen that guy litigate? Also you are going to find most Trump Supporters don't like the Iranian Nuclear deal. Hell, even [url=https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/727]John Podesta[/url] don't like it and he councils Obama.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293811]He is still a good lawyer. You ever seen that guy litigate?[/QUOTE] Who fucking cares. I care more about the man's policy and how he'll view things rather than his litigation abilities.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293818]Who fucking cares. I care more about the man's policy and how he'll view things rather than his litigation abilities.[/QUOTE] A good lawyer, despite his views still upholds the laws, and I believe he does that.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293811]He is still a good lawyer. You ever seen that guy litigate?[/QUOTE] This is what's called a copout argument. Points were made against the guy and like always you sidestep them without actually giving additional supporting arguments. [editline]2nd November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Tudd;51293825]A good lawyer, despite his views still upholds the laws, and I believe he does that.[/QUOTE] This sounds like something Trump would say, again "We gotta make the good laws, the best laws. We're going to uphold the laws and make America great again!" Also a good lawyer can be just as biased towards his own perceptions as a bad one FYI
[QUOTE=gastyne;51293740]Hopefully they get exactly 50/50 and take turns being president one day each.[/QUOTE] I didn't think it was possible to come up with a worse outcome to the election, but it was that simple. :v:
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51293830]This is what's called a copout argument. Points were made against the guy and like always you sidestep them without actually giving additional supporting arguments.[/QUOTE] Well I don't agree with some of his policies, but you haven't proven to me he isn't a good lawyer. Sorry, I don't put a man's policies over his actual skill in the profession he does?
b-b-but he's a good lawyer!!!
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293811]He is still a good lawyer. You ever seen that guy litigate? Also you are going to find most Trump Supporters don't like the Iranian Nuclear deal. Hell, even [url=https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/727]John Podesta[/url] don't like it and he councils Obama.[/QUOTE] Who gives a shit if he's a good lawyer? There's good lawyers out there who aren't pants on head retarded pieces of human trash. Obviously they don't like the deal, Trump supporters would rather just nuke the sandy parts of the world and be done with it and forego any diplomatic solution.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51293855]Who gives a shit if he's a good lawyer? There's good lawyers out there who aren't pants on head retarded pieces of human trash. Obviously they don't like the deal, Trump supporters would rather just nuke the sandy parts of the world and be done with it and forego any diplomatic solution.[/QUOTE] Well as Attorney General I would hope he is a good lawyer and doesn't bring his policies into his decisions. Which from what I have see he doesnt.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293847]Well I don't agree with some of his policies, but you haven't proven to me he isn't a good lawyer. Sorry, I don't put a man's policies over his actual skill in the profession he does?[/QUOTE] If his profession and the job he's going to do will be affected by his policies (which attorney fucking general sure as shit is) You want a guy who says "abortion should be illegal" to be the legal counselor for the US.
You do know you can be a good lawyer without being a horrendous human being to boot? And also not support the patriot act? Y'know the thing that lets the NSA do what it does?
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293859]Well as Attorney General I would hope he is a good lawyer and doesn't bring his policies into his decisions. Which from what I have see he doesnt.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry if I'd rather not see a man who believes that abortion should be illegal in the position of AG.
If hillary loses, im putting a large chunk of the blame on the DNC for their clear bias of choosing hillary. the actions they committed seriously sourced the democratic side.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293859]Well as Attorney General I would hope he is a good lawyer and doesn't bring his policies into his decisions. Which from what I have see he doesnt.[/QUOTE] He voted FOR EXTENDING THE PATRIOT ACT WIRE TAPS. He VOTED FOR BANNING THE EPA FROM REGULATING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. he voted NO on reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act. You can be sure as shit his policies will absolutely affect his decisions.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293866]You do know you can be a good lawyer without being a horrendous human being to boot? And also not support the patriot act? Y'know the thing that lets the NSA do what it does?[/QUOTE] You also know you can be a good lawyer while still having opinions that don't agree with people on the democratic side right? Like is every republican suppose to be thrown into the trash for consideration despite their skill?
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51293769]wants to ban admission of ANY SYRIAN RESIDENTS[/QUOTE] Oh, it's a lot worse than that. He promised to completely [i]ban[/i] immigration from places compromised by terrorism, providing France and Germany as examples. To be lifted when 'they figure stuff out' and implement #extremevetting measures. He's like the insane uncle whom you are nice to, because you think he might have bumped his head really hard when he was young, and because he might murder you during a heated family dinner. But without the good sense of humor.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51293762]There is something bizarre about watching leftists cheer for Trump. I get not liking Clinton, but do you hate her [I]that much[/I] to anticipate a Trump victory?[/QUOTE] I'm sure at least some have the view that the DNC as a whole pushed their chosen one on everyone, and Trump winning would send a pretty clear message that they can't just shove thier most unpopular candidate down everyone's throats and win because the Republican party had someone worse. Still not a good reason to hope Trump wins, one need only look at the Philippines to get a glimpse of how badly electing someone like Trump could go, but I for one can understand the mindset of hoping the DNC gets the message to stop being utter shit themselves and relying on the RNC being so much worse (especially in social policy) to win.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293875]You also know you can be a good lawyer while still having opinions that don't agree with people on the democratic side right? Like is every republican suppose to be thrown into the trash for consideration despite their skill?[/QUOTE] I never said anything like that. I said that he's a shit choice because his views are shit adn would go forward with awful decisions as attorney general.
But I thought the polls can't be trusted because they're rigged
I really really hope he doesn't become your president. Of if he does he is fired quickly. But can that happen? How is one removed from presidency (without the use of bullets)?
[QUOTE=SelfishDragon;51293883]But I thought the polls can't be trusted because they're rigged[/QUOTE] You see, you're forgetting that Trump supporters all have this magical ability to selectively choose what supports their viewpoint and avoid what doesn't.
[QUOTE=SelfishDragon;51293883]But I thought the polls can't be trusted because they're rigged[/QUOTE] no you see, its only rigged if trump is losing.
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