• Donald Trump overtakes Hillary Clinton for first time since May in ABC poll
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[QUOTE=_Maverick_;51293885]I really really hope he doesn't become your president. Of if he does he is fired quickly. But can that happen? How is one removed from presidency (without the use of bullets)?[/QUOTE] Being impeached, which can happen if the President is about to convicted of a serious crime.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293882]I never said anything like that. I said that he's a shit choice because his views are shit adn would go forward with awful decisions as attorney general.[/QUOTE] Seems like despite how this guy might be at keeping his policies out of litigation you don't care. Anyways, I for one am rowdy for Gowdy.
[QUOTE=Achilles11;51293460][url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-us-election-2016-poll-abc-overtakes-a7390696.html#commentsDiv[/url] I can just hear SH's Hillary supporters cry out in a fit of rage with fists shaking and cheeks bulging red with anger. I honestly have a feeling this election's result is going to end like the EU Referendum did: with the unlikely result winning out.[/QUOTE] ya if that were how elections in the US worked but we have already cast 40% of the votes with democrats leading substantially in many early voting contests. additionally the national poll doesnt really reflect the electoral college completely. she is winning in the places that really count like north carolina, pennsylvania, and virginia while trump has basically dumped everything in ohio and florida. he looks to pickup like two swing states which is far from what he needs
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293875]You also know you can be a good lawyer while still having opinions that don't agree with people on the democratic side right? Like is every republican suppose to be thrown into the trash for consideration despite their skill?[/QUOTE] I'd agree with the position of choosing someone moreso for their skills than their political affiliation in most cases, but when it comes to the fucking AG political stance sure as shit fucking matters, don't give me this bullshit that it doesn't.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293875]You also know you can be a good lawyer while still having opinions that don't agree with people on the democratic side right? Like is every republican suppose to be thrown into the trash for consideration despite their skill?[/QUOTE] Most republicans should be thrown in the trash, since their economic and social policies are objectively bad for the country. Here let me prove that statement. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/BplPz8F.png[/IMG] LOOK LOOK AT HOW MUCH BETTER EVERYTHING IS WHEN DEMOCRATS ARE IN POWER BOTH AS PRESIDENT AND IN CONGRESS source: [URL]https://www.princeton.edu/~mwatson/papers/DemRep_BlinderWatson_July2015.pdf[/URL] Like I said, good lawyer is only one part of the issue. The more power you give to someone with retarded positions, the more they're going to abuse that power to spread their retarded positions.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293875]You also know you can be a good lawyer while still having opinions that don't agree with people on the democratic side right? Like is every republican suppose to be thrown into the trash for consideration despite their skill?[/QUOTE] There are more moderate republicans who, while retaining their beliefs, do agree that maybe the democrats might have some sense to their side of the argument. Maybe it's time people understood that it doesn't matter whether you happen to be a Democrat or a Republican, there's shit people on both sides and shit beliefs that should've been buried with the advent of a decent education long ago. Society has to progress one way or the other and desperately clinging to outmoded beliefs isn't going to help matters, like a lot of Republicans seem to think.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51293901]Most republicans should be thrown in the trash, since their economic and social policies are objectively bad for the country. Here let me prove that statement. [img]http://i.imgur.com/BplPz8F.png[/img] source: [url]https://www.princeton.edu/~mwatson/papers/DemRep_BlinderWatson_July2015.pdf[/url] Like I said, good lawyer is only one part of the issue. The more power you give to someone with retarded positions, the more they're going to abuse that power to spread their retarded positions.[/QUOTE] Oh like Attorney General Lynch who was a democrat when meeting with Clinton in the hangar bay before a important congress decision?
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51293896]Being impeached, which can happen if the President is about to convicted of a serious crime.[/QUOTE] no, impeachment is the process of putting the president on trial, its a lot different. the house can impeach her (theyd be stupid to do so) but the senate which is at best a tossup, would have to approve which they wont, and even then theyd oversee the case which would also have to have actual evidence of criminal wrongdoing which they dont also have. basically the republicans cant do jackshit except further polarize and divide the country
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293918]Oh like Attorney General Lynch who was a democrat when meeting with Clinton in the hangar bay before a important congress decision?[/QUOTE] You're really really good at changing the subject when you don't have reasonable arguments to make.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293918]Oh like Attorney General Lynch who was a democrat when meeting with Clinton in the hangar bay before a important congress decision?[/QUOTE] wrong clinton and she recused herself, unlike many republicans who take money from the very companies theyre overseeing.
[QUOTE=Naught;51293524]'denial' [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/a17xh6P.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] he went from 13% to 28% in the span of less than two weeks? not even a week. holy Jesus H. Christ shit
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293918]Oh like Attorney General Lynch who was a democrat when meeting with Clinton in the hangar bay before a important congress decision?[/QUOTE] and again here we come back to Clinton Maybe it was just a social meeting and not some conspiracy like you believe it might be? She apologized for it publically as well. I understand you don't seem to trust this narrative, and you're within your rights to do so, but let's agree to disagree that sometimes things are exactly as they seem.
[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;51293932]You're really really good at changing the subject when you don't have reasonable arguments to make.[/QUOTE] It's more like I am getting bombarded by 4 different people at the same time and I can't refresh fast enough.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293918]but Clinton[/QUOTE] there it is
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293648] The internal destruction of the GOP and DNC.[/QUOTE] Giving the Republican party control over the entirety of the legislative and executive branches, and through them the judicial branch, is apparently the perfect way to destroy them. what
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51293935]he went from 13% to 28% in the span of less than two weeks? not even a week. holy Jesus H. Christ shit[/QUOTE] Trump gets support the more he isn't in the media. He basically proves that 'any publicity is good publicity' is horseshit.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293875]You also know you can be a good lawyer while still having opinions that don't agree with people on the democratic side right? Like is every republican suppose to be thrown into the trash for consideration despite their skill?[/QUOTE] Turning a different guy's argument from "this guy has terrible views, he shouldn't have the job" to "OH SO YOU'RE SAYING NO REPUBLICANS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE JOB??????" is such a ridiculous amount of strawmanning that I'm wondering how you didn't have an aneurysm while clicking "Post". I don't want to move into Godwin territory, but I'm gonna do it anyway on purely didactic grounds - imagine if Hitler were an excellent lawyer and a Republican; Zillamaster55 now says that he'd rather not have Hitler as Attorney General. Would it still be reasonable to assume that Zillamaster55 would discard [I]any[/I] Republican from the job? Or is it more likely that his argument pertains specifically to Hitler?
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51293901] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/BplPz8F.png[/IMG] LOOK LOOK AT HOW MUCH BETTER EVERYTHING IS WHEN DEMOCRATS ARE IN POWER BOTH AS PRESIDENT AND IN CONGRESS source: [URL]https://www.princeton.edu/~mwatson/papers/DemRep_BlinderWatson_July2015.pdf[/URL] [/QUOTE] [quote]“Democrats would probably like to attribute a large portion of the D-R growth gap to better fiscal (and perhaps monetary) policies, but the data do not support such a claim,” the authors concluded. “If anything, and we would not make much of such small differences, both fiscal and monetary policy actions seem to be a bit more pro-growth when a Republican is president — even though GDP grows significantly faster under Federal Reserve chairmen appointed by Democrats than by Republicans.”[/quote] [url]http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/clinton-economy-better-under-democrats/[/url] You and I know both know GDP is not a comprehensive look at a economy
[QUOTE=da space core;51293872]If hillary loses, im putting a large chunk of the blame on the DNC for their clear bias of choosing hillary. the actions they committed seriously sourced the democratic side.[/QUOTE] They really should have ran Sanders, as much I have criticised the man himself on being so damn soft. At least he didn't have evidence of corruption piling up on him by the day, but the DNC insisted on running the one person with the most dirt of everyone in Washington on their person because it ''was her turn'', and the DNC establishment did every dirty trick in the book so they could to hand it to Clinton. In case Trump wins the presidency, there is something oddly commendable to see him having effectively ruined both sides of the establishment, and not only one, but two political dynasties to boot. I doubt anything could top this election cycle in the coming decades, what a wild ride this is.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51293514]God fucking damnit democratic party [/QUOTE]fixed that for you. if it were sanders who isnt a corrupt and scandal ridden horrorshow. wouldve won against trump with ease.
I'm not against Trump increasing military spending, it's one of two of five hundred things he has said that I find sort of agreeable, and with that I kind of vomited in my mouth a bit. What I'm curious is how he is going to pay for it considering basically everyone realizes his tax plan is pants on head retarded.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51293946]Trump gets support the more he isn't in the media. He basically proves that 'any publicity is good publicity' is horseshit.[/QUOTE] And to think that he won the primaries because he managed to dominate the news all the time. It's almost poetic.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51293973]fixed that for you. if it were sanders who isnt a corrupt and scandal ridden horrorshow. wouldve won against trump with ease.[/QUOTE] And if this country weren't full of single-minded lemmings on an all-feels diet, the Dems wouldn't have even had to win against him.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293918]Oh like Attorney General Lynch who was a democrat when meeting with Clinton in the hangar bay before a important congress decision?[/QUOTE] (in an unplanned meeting where they talked about social shit, according to witnesses) Come at me with something more concrete than that, like how Trump has shitloads of money in Russia and how that could legitimately affect his judgment, despite it already being impaired.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;51293947] I don't want to move into Godwin territory, but I'm gonna do it anyway on purely didactic grounds - imagine if Hitler were an excellent lawyer and a Republican; Zillamaster55 now says that he'd rather not have Hitler as Attorney General. Would it still be reasonable to assume that Zillamaster55 would discard [I]any[/I] Republican from the job? Or is it more likely that his argument pertains specifically to Hitler?[/QUOTE] I can't believe anyone seriously give a star for someone going Godwin Law on an argument over Trey Gowdy. But to answer this retarded comparison; Trey Gowdy ain't Hitler and historically hasn't brought his policies into congressional hearings as far as I have seen, which is what demonstrates to me he is lawyer capable litigating as Attorney General without fucking with things.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51293603]Can a trump supporter please outline to me what positives they see in a Trump presidency without mentioning Hillary?[/QUOTE] Can a Clinton supporter please outline to me what positives they see in a Clinton presidency without mentioning Trump?
[QUOTE=Jordax;51293971]They really should have ran Sanders, [...] but the DNC insisted on running the one person with the most dirt of everyone in Washington on their person because it ''was her turn'', and the DNC establishment did every dirty trick in the book so they could to hand it to Clinton.[/QUOTE] There was also the part where Sanders lost the primaries to Clinton. I'd say that that disqualified him from being the DNC's pick.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51293992](in an unplanned meeting where they talked about social shit, according to witnesses) Come at me with something more concrete than that, like how Trump has shitloads of money in Russia and how that could legitimately affect his judgment, despite it already being impaired.[/QUOTE] How is your "according to witnesses" concrete? The only thing that is true is that they only know what they said to each other.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51293996]I can't believe anyone seriously give a star for someone going Godwin Law on an argument over Trey Gowdy. But to answer this retarded comparison; Trey Gowdy ain't Hitler and historically hasn't brought his policies into congressional hearings as far as I have seen, which is what demonstrates to me he is lawyer capable litigating as Attorney General without fucking with things.[/QUOTE] One of these days someone on the internet will actually invoke Godwin's law correctly.
Ironically, the dismissal of any analogy of involving Hitler, is [I]itself [/I]more an example of Godwin's Law than than it's target.
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