Obama slams Romney over 47% remarks: Workers want help, 'not a handout'
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[QUOTE=imptastick;37748651]I agree it was wrong of me to make assumptions, but sadly in our current political system your choices are realistically limited to democrat or republican as the system is set up to make in near impossible to have any third party win. As for criticism of democrats I really don't believe they are trying to keep the poor down to stay strong as a party.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it's necessarily conspiratorial, it's that Democrats just aren't particularly concerned about the poor unless it gets them power. I mean, if the Democrats were truly interested in poverty, wouldn't they make it so you can get food stamps while a full-time student? Wouldn't they pay for the tuition of the poorest Americans and pay, in part, for the middle class? Wouldn't they actually work to make businesses and factories worker owned and managed rather than owned by the rich?
Welfare seems like a good idea until you see that it doesn't actually fix anything, it just makes someones life slightly more comfortable. It's a necessity to sustaining a poor population, not a cure to poverty.
[editline]21st September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zethereal;37748682]Off-topic but is putting a comma before 'and' an American thing? here in England we lose points on our english exams for it.[/QUOTE]
I learned in my primary schooling that you put a comma before "and".
[QUOTE=yawmwen;37748701]I don't think it's necessarily conspiratorial, it's that Democrats just aren't particularly concerned about the poor unless it gets them power. I mean, if the Democrats were truly interested in poverty, wouldn't they make it so you can get food stamps while a full-time student? Wouldn't they pay for the tuition of the poorest Americans and pay, in part, for the middle class? Wouldn't they actually work to make businesses and factories worker owned and managed rather than owned by the rich?
Welfare seems like a good idea until you see that it doesn't actually fix anything, it just makes someones life slightly more comfortable. It's a necessity to sustaining a poor population, not a cure to poverty.
[editline]21st September 2012[/editline]
I learned in my primary schooling that you put a comma before "and".[/QUOTE]
Well I would say the people at the top of either party are focused on what they have to do to get/stay in power. But as for the general population, I would say many democrats really do care for the poor.
[QUOTE=Zethereal;37748682]Off-topic but is putting a comma before 'and' an American thing? here in England we lose points on our english exams for it.[/QUOTE]
Having a comma after "and" really makes a difference in some sentences. I'd bring up that one image about breakfast food getting mixed up but I'm on my iPod.
[QUOTE=imptastick;37748248]Yeah it's like Romney will say anything to make Romney look bad, If you believed everything Romney said you would think Romney is a rich bigot who couldn't care less about the lower class.[/QUOTE]
if you believed everything romney said you would be bipolar
[QUOTE=imptastick;37748733]Well I would say the people at the top of either party are focused on what they have to do to get/stay in power. But as for the general population, I would say many democrats really do care for the poor.[/QUOTE]
Well, the voters certainly do, since many of them are very poor.
I'm talking about the politicians, the ones who "represent" us in the House, the Senate, the State Legislature, the State Executive Office, etc. These guys are more concerned with power. They are more concerned with gaining voters. It's necessary in any political system, but it's more pronounced in a two-party system.
So because democrats aren't able to dictatorially rule over the country and pass literally any legislation in the exact way they want it, regardless of how many republicans vote against it and refuse to support it, they obviously don't care about poor people.
[QUOTE=Zethereal;37748682]Off-topic but is putting a comma before 'and' an American thing? here in England we lose points on our english exams for it.[/QUOTE]
It is called an Oxford comma.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_comma[/url]
It is used to avoid any possibility of confusion about the list it is attached to.
[img]http://imageshack.us/a/img33/6595/tumblrlnzexf2k961qiaule.jpg[/img]
I believe adding the comma is technically the correct way to write it, even in the UK, but somehow British English has decided to largely drop it. At the very least you shouldn't lose points for adding it.
[QUOTE=Ybbats;37748840]So because democrats aren't able to dictatorially rule over the country and pass literally any legislation in the exact way they want it, regardless of how many republicans vote against it and refuse to support it, they obviously don't care about poor people.[/QUOTE]
No, because Democrats don't want to pass legislation that comprehensively addresses poverty, they obviously don't care about poor people.
[QUOTE=Zethereal;37748682]Off-topic but is putting a comma before 'and' an American thing? here in England we lose points on our english exams for it.[/QUOTE]
To me the serial comma feels normal and is standard in American English non-journalistic writing. Most other countries don't use it, though.
[QUOTE=Mortson;37748356][img]http://blueollie.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/why-i-vote-republican.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I feel like this is where the vote should come from, but there are other people who just don't realize Obama's been doing okay and haven't done their homework.
I go to a school that's home to a lot of gays and mostly liberals, but there are still kids who must have been influenced by republicans parent even though they come off as being pretty left-leaning. I don't know how they can be so thick. "Hi, I'm a college student with a girlfriend and I'm thinking of going into some form of education in the arts and I think Romney's our guy!" Seriously, what the fuck.
[QUOTE=Megafan;37748944]To me the serial comma feels normal and is standard in American English non-journalistic writing. Most other countries don't use it, though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I always thought that it made [B]much[/B] more sense than not using it, but while doing my last English exam in September last year, I got a grade lower from using it only once which sucked horribly. Also our tutor yells at us for using it at any point so I got accustomed to not using it which makes everything that uses it look like wrong grammar to me.
Shit sucks.
[QUOTE=Splarg!;37749170]I feel like this is where the vote should come from, but there are other people who just don't realize Obama's been doing okay and haven't done their homework.
I go to a school that's home to a lot of gays and mostly liberals, but there are still kids who must have been influenced by republicans parent even though they come off as being pretty left-leaning. I don't know how they can be so thick. "Hi, I'm a college student with a girlfriend and I'm thinking of going into some form of education in the arts and I think Romney's our guy!" Seriously, what the fuck.[/QUOTE]
A lot of people just really don't bother thinking for themselves. They stick to what they're taught even when it doesn't actually line up with their personal views. But since they don't really think about it, they never even realize it.
[QUOTE=GunFox;37748917]It is called an Oxford comma.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_comma[/url]
It is used to avoid any possibility of confusion about the list it is attached to.
[img]http://imageshack.us/a/img33/6595/tumblrlnzexf2k961qiaule.jpg[/img]
I believe adding the comma is technically the correct way to write it, even in the UK, but somehow British English has decided to largely drop it. At the very least you shouldn't lose points for adding it.[/QUOTE]
I like this one more:
[img]http://www.eltnews.com/news/oxford-comma-cartoon.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Zethereal;37751469]Yeah, I always thought that it made [B]much[/B] more sense than not using it, but while doing my last English exam in September last year, I got a grade lower from using it only once which sucked horribly. Also our tutor yells at us for using it at any point so I got accustomed to not using it which makes everything that uses it look like wrong grammar to me.
Shit sucks.[/QUOTE]
I live in the UK and I always use it
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