North Korean Photo Reveals ‘U.S. Mainland Strike Plan’
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[QUOTE=ilikecorn;40090545]Because the midwest is full of nuclear missile silos, assuming they arent bluffing( they are) they'd hope to reduce our second strike capabilites. Not that it matters when there are ballistic missile submarines with far more ordinance than single silos.[/QUOTE]
And chances are after all these nuke threats they've been making, we've already got nuke subs pointed at NK ready to go on the off chance they actually aren't bluffing about any of this.
[QUOTE=Gas_Snake101;40090494]Is it me, or do a lot of the U.S citizens on this board think they are invincible?[/QUOTE]
Well, against North Korea...
[editline]31st March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Smugleaf;40100321]You all underestimate the North.[/QUOTE]
They've a big army, but they can't even properly support it on their home turf. Forget about an invasion. Invasions require huge amounts of logistics, and North Korea simply doesn't have the money or supplies for it, nor do they have any way to mobilize an appropriately sized invasion force.
[QUOTE=Smugleaf;40100321]You all underestimate the North.[/QUOTE]
They barely have the logistical capability to do anything on their own territory given days of advance. You think they can do anything short of using artillery for damaging maybe the outskirts of Seoul? Before they can organize shit to do anything outside of an artillery barrage that May not even have the range to hit downtown Seoul, the United States would have already smashed their shit and any capability to wage an offensive war. They're also starving in some places of North Korea so bad that they eat miscarried children.
The only people who should be worried about Kim Jong Un and his military are the North Koreans themselves
[QUOTE=Derposaurus;40090773]I'm kind of thinking they're trying to make the U.S. attack first, getting public opinion in the U.S. to be hating towards North Korea. I don't know what this would accomplish, though[/QUOTE]
Not likely. The most obvious objective of the North Korean regime, unsurprisingly enough, is preservation of the North Korean regime. That would be both pointless and counterproductive.
If anything their threats are likely intended to ensure a continued flow of food aid into North Korea. By threatening war, they can string everyone along for a lot longer.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40098391]For once, living in shitty New Jersey is going to pay off!
Nice knowing you, West Coast :v:[/QUOTE]
Living in New Jersey never pays off. Think about it.
If you survive...
You're still in New Jersey.
It must suck to be North Korea so bad. You come up with all of these strike plans, have all of this military equipment, soldiers, missiles, etc and you can't... [i]use[/i] any of it. America is too far away, you can't hit South Korea without getting fucking mauled, and your military has a limited endurance even on your own soil.
I feel really bad for them. :(
Also missing attack subs
[url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2879590/posts[/url]
They could be anywhere
i just wish they would do it so america could nuke them to exstinction since they want america to blow them up so badly
[QUOTE=DELTA440;40126190]i just wish they would do it so america could nuke them to exstinction since they want america to blow them up so badly[/QUOTE]
I too, wish for the genocide of an entire nation. Totally a good idea 11/10.
Kill the leaders, and pay for the humanitarian aid to the rest of the country with the new worldwide reality show "My first sandwich"
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40100514]don't sharpshooters taking long shots have to correct for the spin of the earth?
I'd assume a missle would have to do this too guys[/QUOTE]
i'm positive i've heard a bunch of times it doesn't affect the trajectory of a bullet enough.
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;40127045]i'm positive i've heard a bunch of times it doesn't affect the trajectory of a bullet enough.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what it does affect, which is why they have to account for it.
the earth spins away under it, meaning slight deviation on the path, aka missed shot.
I just thought of this really great idea.
Let's go in guns ablazing and have a couple day, bloody war of a coup and topple their regime. Then spend the next decade with soldiers and diplomats trying to fundamentally change everything about their government 'cause America.
Did anyone actually bother to google translate the scripture?
[img]http://imageshack.us/a/img547/6672/fuckyoucunts.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Bloodprime;40127856]Did anyone actually bother to google translate the scripture?
[IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img547/6672/fuckyoucunts.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
SO NOW NOTCH IS WORKING WITH THE NORTH KOREANS????
[QUOTE=EcksDee;40127365]That's exactly what it does affect, which is why they have to account for it.
the earth spins away under it, meaning slight deviation on the path, aka missed shot.[/QUOTE]
i'd say it would only affect the trajectory of a missile, not the bullet of a sniper unless it's a really long shot or the bullet is traveling really slow and you somehow managed to hit something far away enough with it.
[QUOTE=Gwandu;40090569]hey i can do this too
[img]http://oi47.tinypic.com/33o76ub.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Well, you can actually say that seriously for some other things:
[img]http://www.abload.de/img/obama-monsantoactbxkzv.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Megaman1811;40090487]What are you guys scared about? NK can't do shit.
[IMG]http://puu.sh/2qu4J[/IMG]
I even have a nice fancy map[/QUOTE]
haha no-dong
[editline]2nd April 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=scout1;40091738]The rotation of the earth is completely irrelevant when the launcher and target are on the earth
At the time of launch let's say the earth is rotating westward at whatever arbitrary speed.
So is the target. And so is the missile. It has to expend energy to "speed up" and travel to the target. The same thing would happen if the Earth was completely static and neither the target nor the launcher are moving.[/QUOTE]
have u tried throwing a ball to someone on a merry-go-round??
[QUOTE=Eltro102;40134280]
have u tried throwing a ball to someone on a merry-go-round??[/QUOTE]
a merry go round doesn't have its own atmosphere and a non-negligible gravity pull
[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;40128268]i'd say it would only affect the trajectory of a missile, not the bullet of a sniper unless it's a really long shot or the bullet is traveling really slow and you somehow managed to hit something far away enough with it.[/QUOTE]
well from what I know, shots at distances of 2 miles or so do have to calculate the spin of the earth
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills[/url]
even on wiki it says that
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40100514]don't sharpshooters taking long shots have to correct for the spin of the earth?
I'd assume a missle would have to do this too guys[/QUOTE]
No. The Paris Gun did, but compensating for rotation of the earth has to do with altitude, not distance.
[QUOTE=Riller;40135103]No. The Paris Gun did, but compensating for rotation of the earth has to do with altitude, not distance.[/QUOTE]
everything i read states it has an effect
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40135142]everything i read states it has an effect[/QUOTE]
So does the drag caused by the spin of the bullet, the humidity, the temprature, the amount of particles in the air, the fuckin' distance of the moon via tidal forces, and wether or not I just farted. The effect is just so tiny there's no reason to care about it.
[QUOTE=Riller;40135168]So does the drag caused by the spin of the bullet, the humidity, the temprature, the amount of particles in the air, the fuckin' distance of the moon via tidal forces, and wether or not I just farted. The effect is just so tiny there's no reason to care about it.[/QUOTE]
i find it hard to argue you with your incredible factual presentation of these ideas
there are things that affect it. i'm trying to read up on it to find out what plays a big role. Apparently for long distance shots, 2km or more, it does matter
maybe those snipers and the math they use is lies and it's all powered by jet fueled bullets, but i dunno man
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40135208]i find it hard to argue you with your incredible factual presentation of these ideas
there are things that affect it. i'm trying to read up on it to find out what plays a big role. Apparently for long distance shots, 2km or more, it does matter
maybe those snipers and the math they use is lies and it's all powered by jet fueled bullets, but i dunno man[/QUOTE]
Temprature, both of the air and of the weapon itself, has a rather large effect on trajectory. The metal the gunbarrel is made of will contract slightly after even a single round is fired, changing the point of impact slightly. The humidity and air density has an effect on what level of air resistance the bullet will be encountering during it's flight. Wind is a no-brainer. When you're pointing a stick out at 2kms, the fuckin' time since your last heartbeat might have a chance to affect it, since one milimeter of inaccuracy at the muzzle is several feet at the recieving end when amplified that much. I'm sure the spin of the earth has [I]some[/I] effect, but it'd be minimal at best and of very, very little concern. The extra time it'd take to factor it in after ajusting windage and elevation isn't worth it.
[QUOTE=Riller;40135276]Temprature, both of the air and of the weapon itself, has a rather large effect on trajectory. The metal the gunbarrel is made of will contract slightly after even a single round is fired, changing the point of impact slightly. The humidity and air density has an effect on what level of air resistance the bullet will be encountering during it's flight. Wind is a no-brainer. When you're pointing a stick out at 2kms, the fuckin' time since your last heartbeat might have a chance to affect it, since one milimeter of inaccuracy at the muzzle is several feet at the recieving end when amplified that much. I'm sure the spin of the earth has [I]some[/I] effect, but it'd be minimal at best and of very, very little concern. The extra time it'd take to factor it in after ajusting windage and elevation isn't worth it.[/QUOTE]
alright, those long range snipers didn't account for it(they did, they even talk about it) but okay buddy
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40135292]alright, those long range snipers didn't account for it(they did, they even talk about it) but okay buddy[/QUOTE]
Hey, I'll believe you if you source it a bit better. So far, all references I find regarding the coriolis effect on ballistics in non-missile-weaponry are about super-heavy artillery, mainly citing the Paris Gun of WWII, which shot at a distance of 120 kms, roughly 40-50 times as much as the longest sniper shots.
[editline]2nd April 2013[/editline]
And, of course, at much higher altitudes, where the lesser dense atmospheric air has less to say about keeping the shell in place in relation to the surface.
[editline]2nd April 2013[/editline]
And nevermind, I'm a retard, I've found a hearsay source or two.
[QUOTE=Smugleaf;40100321]You all underestimate the North.[/QUOTE]
Right, heres reasons why North Korea would never attack the US.
1. They recieve foreign aid from countries so the regime won't collapse
2. They are posturing with nukes since US began to turn its focus back onto Iran who also has nukes
3. They have an underfed army and civilian populace with no way to sustain a war
4. AEGIS Missile Defense Systems, not perfect, but accurate up to 50% of the time and plenty are between North Korea and the West Coast
5. North Korea only has the fissile material for 6-10 nukes and they've reportedly blown one of those up already this year
Yeah, US citizens can feel invincible because we pretty much are. South Koreans are screwed though, wouldn't want to be them.
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