[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;21350470]Its both, the better the graphics the better the immersion. Horribad graphics means less immersion and a more shitty experience.[/QUOTE]
wrong
Many "console" people think that getting atleast decent gaming rig costs you metric-fuckton of money more than Xbox. When in reality you can get it with only 200€, have your PC-Expert friend buy the components, put it together. And Vo'la!
Because this is totally true, its how I got this computer
So there, [B]PC is superior.[/B]
I like CryTek. They're pretty cool dudes.
I have all three consoles and the PC. I equally enjoy them.
You play video games for fun and don't give a fuck about what other people say.
PC is superior, but, I still play both PC and consoles(I have all this gen and most of last gen), since, well my friends have consoles, also, PC has no Battlefield 1943 or Warhawk.
[b]If you tired of console "bullshit" DO NOT read this post.[/b]
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]Fuck all you PC elitists.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, you too.
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]I swear to God you people just spout fucking shit out your ass EVERY fucking time consoles come up, making up bullshit and justifying shit, repeating the same goddam[b]n[/b] stereotypes and [del]in[/del]correct bullshit time after time.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, pretty much.
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]Guess what[b]? S[/b]ome people play better with controllers.[/QUOTE]
Maybe because they never play with Mouse and Keyboard, no?
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]PCs don't have wiimotes.[/QUOTE]
Lier.
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]and I'd choose a controller over a mouse any day.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to :downs:town.
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]Some people can't afford fucking [b]3[/b]00$+ gaming rigs. I know I can't![/QUOTE]
Solution: don't live in the middle of the Africa.
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]Maybe I have other more important shit I need to spend my money on. [/QUOTE]
Pokémon Cards?
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]Maybe I don't want a computer- I want to play games.[/QUOTE]
Because you can't play games on PC, neither can you mod, get free DLC's (mostly, TF2 is a good example.) or wider range of human-machine interfaces and applications (including games).
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]-random crap-[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]And fun fact- PC gamers get just as many retards as console gamers. Only difference is they have less little kids, more douche bag teens and 20-year olds.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty much the definition of the word Mature nowdays.
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]PC gamers are fat, lazy, nerdy elitist fucks who will never get a girlfriend, play WoW 12 hours a day, and smell all the time. They have poor social skills, live in a basement, and fantasize about their cat/dog/mom/sister.[/QUOTE]
Do you have fun drooling and twitching in your basement in front of your 3 inch [del]pen-[/del]TV?
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]I don't even know why you compare the two- one's a fucking computer, the other is made specifically for games. Why the fuck penalize the guy on the motorcycle, just because you have a fucking truck?[/QUOTE]
More like, why penaltize a guy on a tricycle when you have a motorbike.
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]Pull your head out of your fucking ass and get a fucking life. You are all shit. All of you elitist fags. You think your system is better, so you think that every person who doesn't use it is inferior to you.[/QUOTE]
Because it [i]is[/i] better. It can do anything any console can and much much more.
(don't say that a PC can't run Xbawks games because Xbawks is nothing but a crippled PC, the insides are still exactly the same.....except that they're outdated)
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]and I keep reading shit here over consoles.[/QUOTE]
Don't read it then.
[QUOTE=Detective P;21354009]/rant.[/QUOTE]
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Dammit he's banned.
[QUOTE=Raiskauskone;21355138]Many "console" people think that getting atleast decent gaming rig costs you metric-fuckton of money more than Xbox. When in reality you can get it with only 200€, have your PC-Expert friend buy the components, put it together. And Vo'la!
Because this is totally true, its how I got this computer
So there, [B]PC is superior.[/B][/QUOTE]
Wait hold on not everyone has a PC-Expert friend to buy components for them and not everyone lives in europe for that matter either. Gaming rigs generally do cost more money because of the components whereas the xbox 360 is a bunch of already assembled components - this is why average people buy dell pc's because they are cheaper but they aren't suitable for gaming most times and they don't have extra money to replace the components that are bad in the dell pc's or don't have the know how.
So please post a 300$ pc that runs bc2. Im just curious.
And before you call me a console elitist, just know, I don't own any console at all.
Crytek have had a lot to say lately...
Though I can't say I disagree honestly. Consoles are more open and accessible, meaning they appeal to a wider audience. Do this audience want to be introduced to something new, creative and daring that could potentially fall on it's face? Or do they want shit to be blown up and for their protagonist to smoke, have a manly beard and a cool accent?
Big business' like Crytek can't cater to minorities of console owners who are intelligent and respect games for the work put into them, they have to go by a majority, and sadly the majority of console gamers are 12 year olds on Modern Warfare 2 and Halo 3.
As said earlier, if someone buys a PC for gaming, why did they buy it? I can't speak for everyone, but I bought a PC to game so that I'd have access to a wider community, I'd be able to download mods for my games and maybe make my own, I'd have PC exclusive games like Garrys Mod and various RTS's that recieve regular updates, Ala TF2.
Many companies know this, SDKs are released as a way to ensure games recieve more sales. Because there's a higher chance the majority of PC gamers will know what to do with the SDK. Knowing that PC gamers know what to do with games gives an impression of intelligence and understanding, leading to the Crytek guy's speech on PC gamers capability for forgiveness and understanding.
Just my two pennies.
Listen, I work at Target in the summer in electronics. I know firsthand who I sell to. Moms buy wii games. The kids that buy Xbox and PS3 games have usually never even heard of PC gaming, or think it's a very distant land that no one really frolics too.
These are the kids Crytek is referring to. They are not talking about the kids who shop at Gamestop and play through multiplatforms. The majority of all game sales are through retail stores like Bestbuy, Walmart, and Target.
[QUOTE=EDDY TT;21350327]Everyone knows console gamers are fags, they are what is holding the damn technology of games back with their underpowered* piles of shit they call a gaming rig.
*Namely the xbox360 and its really bad hardware.[/QUOTE]
Not having money to buy a new super PC/upgrade every year makes you inferior.
YEAAAAAAAH!
Now I do agree that to an extent, people using consoles play game to play the game, and rarely go beyond what developers intended. But seriously, for gaming it suffices.
And sometimes the time it takes to build your own PC (which is clearly superior) is just not there. Then a prebuilt (pray to gods of old that it isn't too fucked over) suffices as well.
[QUOTE=Zayfox;21354340]Are you browsing Facepunch from your PS3 or something? Otherwise, expect nothing less.[/QUOTE]
Well calling all console gamers idiots makes you look like an idiot. I game on the PC and consoles and there is nothing wrong with either. Obviously the PC is better in terms of control, graphics, etc. but that doesn't mean you need to be a total douchebag to console gamers. Not all console gamers are complete idiots or 12 year olds. Thats like saying all PC gamers are all nerds. Its a stereotype.
You guys are acting like completely babies.
Go ahead and call me 17 years old for having an Xbox 360, I don't really care.
To me it's exactly the same thing as a dude bashing on gays because he's "totally not a fag bro".
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[QUOTE=Nyaos;21355671]Listen, I work at Target in the summer in electronics. I know firsthand who I sell to. Moms buy wii games. The kids that buy Xbox and PS3 games have usually never even heard of PC gaming, or think it's a very distant land that no one really frolics too.[/QUOTE]
Well, if you act like dogs towards "CONSOLEFAGS" no-one will want to play PC games.
I remember back in the days where we didn't call each other fags and noobs. Perhaps because PC gaming was new and we were all noobs.
I love 3 consoles and the PC. Does that make me bad?
What about owning a console for the exclusives? Most people in the thread have pointed out that PCs don't always get ports, and if they do get them, they're crap. So why not have a PS3 for when a new game comes around and you don't want to wait for a port (or the PC isn't getting one)?
[QUOTE=AngryToad;21355932]What about owning a console for the exclusives? Most people in the thread have pointed out that PCs don't always get ports, and if they do get them, they're crap. So why not have a PS3 for when a new game comes around and you don't want to wait for a port (or the PC isn't getting one)?[/QUOTE]
Because that makes you dumb and a fag and all the other "insults" hurled by angry teens with stunted vocabularies.
The good thing about consoles is that it acts as a magnet, drawing the retards and immature people to it while leaving the PC gamers (relatively) normal.
[QUOTE=Agent Cobra;21356014]The good thing about consoles is that it acts as a magnet, drawing the retards and immature people to it while leaving the PC gamers (relatively) normal.[/QUOTE]
Which is a very good thing.
[QUOTE=thisispain;21355817]You guys are acting like completely babies.
Go ahead and call me 17 years old for having an Xbox 360, I don't really care.
To me it's exactly the same thing as a dude bashing on gays because he's "totally not a fag bro".
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Well, if you act like dogs towards "CONSOLEFAGS" no-one will want to play PC games.
I remember back in the days where we didn't call each other fags and noobs. Perhaps because PC gaming was new and we were all noobs.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't insulting them, I'm clearly saying that the "Gamers" play PC games and often have consoles as well, while the casual kids that would never consider themselves gamers own one console and play Halo 3 or MW2 on weekends with friends they know in person.
How often do they say "Holy shit, look at those shaders!" What they care most about it is gameplay. And gameplay is important, but you can easily focus only on gameplay and halfass everything else.
[QUOTE=Agent Cobra;21356014]The good thing about consoles is that it acts as a magnet, drawing the retards and immature people to it while leaving the PC gamers (relatively) normal.[/QUOTE]
Right
Normal as in comes to FP to call people retards and immature because he feels threatened based on a concept of something you fucking play games on
you dare call someone else retarded and immature
[QUOTE=Agent Cobra;21356014]The good thing about consoles is that it acts as a magnet, drawing the retards and immature people to it while leaving the PC gamers (relatively) normal.[/QUOTE]
Oh you're referring to these posts. Nevermind, gotcha. Yeah cut it out.
In response to thisispain
[quote]either it works or it doesn't work[/quote]
Why not fucking update games on consoles then more and people would be more forgiving, useless cunts give up on games on consoles too soon and just stop updating them.
We can't all afford top end PC's
[QUOTE=Nyaos;21356063]I wasn't insulting them, I'm clearly saying that the "Gamers" play PC games and often have consoles as well, while the casual kids that would never consider themselves gamers own one console and play Halo 3 or MW2 on weekends with friends they know in person. [/QUOTE]
You aren't, I'm not saying that. What I am saying is that you shouldn't even care, threads like these are absolutely ridiculous. Anyone who willingly calls themselves a gamer because they just [b]have[/b] to distinguish themselves from "casuals" have completely lost all touch with reality.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;21356063]How often do they say "Holy shit, look at those shaders!"[/QUOTE]
Why on earth would anyone say that?
[QUOTE=Nyaos;21356063]What they care most about it is gameplay. And gameplay is important, but you can easily focus only on gameplay and halfass everything else.[/QUOTE]
Gameplay is completely ignored these days.
[QUOTE=Agent Cobra;21356014]The good thing about consoles is that it acts as a magnet, drawing the retards and immature people to it while leaving the PC gamers (relatively) normal.[/QUOTE]
Why do I hear retarded people on the PC also?
ITT PC gamers complain that console users show pride in what they have even if it's not as good as what PC gamers have.
[QUOTE=Agent Cobra;21356014]The good thing about consoles is that it acts as a magnet, drawing the retards and immature people to it while leaving the PC gamers (relatively) normal.[/QUOTE]
I meet more retards on css than mw2.
And that is say a lot.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;21356085]Oh you're referring to these posts. Nevermind, gotcha. Yeah cut it out.
In response to thisispain[/QUOTE]
This is something you play games on.
Why the fuck do people act militant about this? It's completely ruining every possible outlet of conversation when it comes to games.
When I start seeing "THEM CONSOLEFAGS" or "THEM PCFAGS" I just wonder if that old wives tale about games rotting your brain has weight.
Hey guys it took me a whole thread to reply to this one
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=923820&page=2[/url]
[QUOTE=thisispain;21356126]You aren't, I'm not saying that. What I am saying is that you shouldn't even care, threads like these are absolutely ridiculous. Anyone who willingly calls themselves a gamer because they just [b]have[/b] to distinguish themselves from "casuals" have completely lost all touch with reality.[/QUOTE]
Well the arguments are yes, the thread is about casual gamers not caring as much about the efforts high end studios like Crytek and Valve put into their games. I mean, I think many casual gamers will see the EA publishing logo and assume EA made the game.
[QUOTE=thisispain;21356126]Why on earth would anyone say that? [/QUOTE]
Hahah this is true maybe. My friends and I are PC enthusiasts so we admire the beauty in different things like that. The point is that if no one cares about how smooth your edges look, why care about utilizing Anti Aliasing? Why push for a solid 60FPS when 30FPS works fine with casual gamers?
[QUOTE=thisispain;21356126]Gameplay is completely ignored these days.[/QUOTE]
I think the appreciation for smaller things may be ignored but as a whole, people generally buy the games that are the most fun. And that comes from gameplay in general I think. The point is you can make a fun game and not care about the visuals.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;21356286]Well the arguments are yes, the thread is about casual gamers not caring as much about the efforts high end studios like Crytek and Valve put into their games. I mean, I think many casual gamers will see the EA publishing logo and assume EA made the game.[/QUOTE]
For me it sounds like an excuse. I don't know where Crytek gets off saying anything about anything. What, just because "casual" gamers don't come to your forums and perform oral sex in text format, it means they don't appreciate it? Bullshit. There's more competition in the console game world, deal with it. I find Crytek's attitude insufferable. Gabe's been respectful in this issue, this guy is just whining even though Crytek's entire career (we cannot deny this) has been based on technological fetishism, something that doesn't work on consoles.
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