[QUOTE=Black-Ice;29085597]Skipping alot of posts;
I'd rather live in China than the US in the next few years.[/QUOTE]
That's silly.
[QUOTE=Black-Ice;29085597]Skipping alot of posts;
I'd rather live in China than the US in the next few years.[/QUOTE]
An ignorant retort followed by an ignorant statement with no context or reasoning.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29081568]Shut down Guantanamo and then talk
Both countries have issues and that's basically what China is saying[/QUOTE]
there's a massive difference between a prison for detainees of terrorist activities having issues with civil rights and colonizing and oppressing an entire country of people and trying to exterminate their culture.
there is absolutely no comparison between china and the US, there's really not. The US has small scale fuckups overseas when we try to intervene in order to save our own interests (oil) that just cause violence; we resort to use of torture of enemy combatants which is fucked up. But that doesn't even hold a candle to what China does [I]to its own fucking citizens[/I] and civilians of other countries.
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jailing citizens for political dissent is unacceptable.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;29087398]jailing citizens for political dissent is unacceptable.[/QUOTE]
Its a lot better than killing them.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29087674]Its a lot better than killing them.[/QUOTE]
The United States executed 52 people in 2009, China executed anywhere from 1,700 to 6,000.
Then they just harvest their organs and go on their merry way.
Also China has many political prisons.
The US has guantanamo which contains about 60% of actual terrorists where in Chinese prions, they send people there to rot for writing a petition.
ITT: upset americans get defensive
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29087709]The United States executed 52 people in 2009, China executed anywhere from 1,700 to 6,000.
Then they just harvest their organs and go on their merry way.[/QUOTE]
Unfair statistics, unless you take into account the amount o people China has.
Would be more reasonable to use executions per capita. I'm sure there are statistics on that.
Edit:
Also stupid to compare numbers. Is it more justifiable that 52 people are killed, than 1700? I think it's that fact that capital punishment exists that should be pinpointed.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;29087847]Unfair statistics, unless you take into account the amount o people China has.
Would be more reasonable to use executions per capita. I'm sure there are statistics on that.
Edit:
Also stupid to compare numbers. Is it more justifiable that 52 people are killed, than 1700? I think it's that fact that capital punishment exists that should be pinpointed.[/QUOTE]
Well per capita China would have to have 9.8 billion people to come out equal with the US.
ITT: My shit stinks less.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;29087847]Unfair statistics, unless you take into account the amount o people China has.
Would be more reasonable to use executions per capita. I'm sure there are statistics on that.
Edit:
Also stupid to compare numbers. Is it more justifiable that 52 people are killed, than 1700? I think it's that fact that capital punishment exists that should be pinpointed.[/QUOTE]
There are: [URL]http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_exe_percap-crime-executions-per-capita[/URL]
Also the vast majority of executions in China are due to aggravated murder and drug trafficking, but they can be as flexible as the poaching of pandas or corruption/theft.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China#Crimes_punishable_by_death[/url]
[QUOTE=NoDachi;29088088]ITT: My shit stinks less.[/QUOTE]
That's because our shit stinks a lot less.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;29087733]
The US has guantanamo which contains about 60% of actual terrorists where in [B]Chinese prions[/B], they send people there to rot for writing a petition.[/QUOTE]
OH GOD
CHINESE PRIONS
we're fucked, game over lads.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;29088325]That's because our shit stinks a lot less.[/QUOTE]
Still smells pretty appalling to me.
[QUOTE=JDK721;29087745]ITT: upset americans get defensive[/QUOTE]
No.
It feels like the republicans AND democrats don't even take hints from the public, they just do what they want to do, so yeah..
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29087674]Its a lot better than killing them.[/QUOTE]
we don't kill political dissidents in america, what're you on about?
[QUOTE=JDK721;29087745]ITT: upset americans get defensive[/QUOTE]
You have a lot of good posts and then you left field us with this bullshit
Why not contribute instead of just insulting people
US to china: "no"
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as said before free tibet then we might get off your ass
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also take down the great firewall of china then we'll talk
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also stop cracking down on your people's freedom of speech then we might consider... you know what just stop fucking existing and we might be nicer to the new democratic government of the people that threw you over and had you executed for your crimes.
[QUOTE=seano12;29081526]Free Tibet and then talk.[/QUOTE]
Free Palestine and then talk. It's one imperial power shitting on the other.
[QUOTE=Regulas021;29088889]You have a lot of good posts[/QUOTE]
no he doesn't
China makes Guantanamo look like a McDonalds Ball Pit.
They are just trying to deflect the criticism by finding problems with the US government. But ultimately, China will always be near the top of the list when it comes to shitty ass governments.
<snip>
China:
"Money>Human rights"
[QUOTE=User;29089022]China:
"Money>Human rights"[/QUOTE]
United States of America:
"Money>Human life"
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29089095]United States of America:
"Money>Human life"[/QUOTE]
Explain.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29089095]United States of America:
"Money>Human life"[/QUOTE]
Don't you mean humanity?
Entire World:
"Everything else<Money=Debt=owing money=not having the money therefor Everything else<money=not having money" Oh shit I think I just divided by zero this i
[QUOTE=seano12;29081526]Free Tibet and then talk.[/QUOTE]
And Xinjang.
[QUOTE=Regulas021;29089108]Explain.[/QUOTE]
healthcare, social programs
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