President Trump hits majority disapproval in record time, Gallup finds
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[QUOTE=Headhumpy;51748413]Mugger: "Give me your wallet or I'll stab you!"
You: "No."
*mugger stabs you and runs away*
You, lying on the street bleeding to death: "Well at least he kept his promise!"[/QUOTE]
Nice strawman. When Trump abolished the TPP some of you felt that it was a very good thing he did.
Why can't you make a proper argument for why he is irredeemable?
[QUOTE=Skanic;51748443]Nice strawman. When Trump abolished the TPP some of you felt that it was a very good thing he did.
Why can't you make a proper argument for why he is irredeemable?[/QUOTE]
Wow, I didn't know we're incapable of liking some actions and hating others.
Great, he quit the TPP. Doesn't make up for his other fascist actions.
[QUOTE=Skanic;51748443]Nice strawman. When Trump abolished the TPP some of you felt that it was a very good thing he did.
Why can't you make a proper argument for why he is irredeemable?[/QUOTE]
Because it's meaningless, the guy he put in charge of the FCC is anti net neutrality anyway.
I like how every legitimate argument against Trump supporters is a strawman.
[QUOTE=Skanic;51748443]Nice strawman. When Trump abolished the TPP some of you felt that it was a very good thing he did.
Why can't you make a proper argument for why he is irredeemable?[/QUOTE]
Views on climate change.
Outright hostility to China.
Bad diplomacy.
The Wall.
Horrendous cabinet.
etc.
[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;51748453]Because it's meaningless, the guy he put in charge of the FCC is anti net neutrality anyway.
I like how every legitimate argument against Trump supporters is a strawman.[/QUOTE]
How can I be a Trump supporter? I don't even live there.
Also nice way of generalise people you don't agree with.
The only thing I like about Trump are all the internet memes.
I think he is alright at the moment.
Also don't get the comparison to fascism. Well at least in the USA you guys still got your Guns so if push comes to shove you can defend your freedom.
[QUOTE=Skanic;51748443]Nice strawman. When Trump abolished the TPP some of you felt that it was a very good thing he did.
Why can't you make a proper argument for why he is irredeemable?[/QUOTE]
Very simple. Because he's done far more damage in the few days he's been in office than good - far more damage than any US president in living memory, and has instructed state departments to ignore federal court judges and continue taking actions clearly deemed unconstitutional. He's a tyrant, not a President. Presidents have at least a modicum of respect for the checks and balances of government.
[QUOTE=Skanic;51748474]How can I be a Trump supporter? I don't even live there.
Also nice way of generalise people you don't agree with.
The only thing I like about Trump are all the internet memes.
I think he is alright at the moment.
[/QUOTE]
You don't need to live in the US to support Trump and think he's doing a good job.
And I'm not generalising, strawman gets thrown around so fucking much by Trump supporters around here.
[QUOTE=Skanic;51748474]
I think he is alright at the moment.
Also don't get the comparison to fascism. Well at least in the USA you guys still got your Guns so if push comes to shove you can defend your freedom.[/QUOTE]
*gags scientists*
*says women get more choices while removing their choices*
*says the media is the enemy*
*all news releases must go through him*
*illegally detains people with valid travel documents/IDs at airports*
*wants to build a wall that the taxpayers will have to pay for*
yea... hes alright. This is totally making America Great Again and not totally undermining the country's values.
[QUOTE=Skanic;51748343]I don't think it will go down much, it will probably stabilise and go up slowly.
Also countries that are not affected by the ban that has Muslim refugee can enter. Such as Saudi Arabia.
So they are not entirely banning based on faith. Maybe if they fix what they are trying to fix they can take in more Refugees than the previous administration.[/QUOTE]
Prioritising Christian refugees sure isn't banning based on faith.
Remove Trump.
By any means necessary.
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;51748149]42% of Americans approve of everything he's doing...[/QUOTE]
my family included
[QUOTE=Sableye;51748653]my family included[/QUOTE]
Same. My mother can't even name a policy outside of build a wall and MAGA.
Fucking incredible
[QUOTE=Skanic;51748201]It is relevant because even before, when Obama was first president he banned immigration from Iraq for 6 months.
Nobody cares about that either? Double standards.[/QUOTE]
bro all you're doing is arguing against a strawman. you're making up literally everything you're saying. argue better, or don't at all. you're awful at this.
god, i can see it already. in a few months, when lord m is permabanned, you're going to take his place. you'll be just the next in the line of fat white lump, wystan, john fisher, tudd, king tiger, and lord m. all of them might as well have been alts of each other, and i can already see you being added to that list.
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Also don't get the comparison to fascism. Well at least in the USA you guys still got your Guns so if push comes to shove you can defend your freedom.[/QUOTE]
...No? Not even close. Do you understand what kind of disparity there is between what is available for civilians to buy and what is available to the police, let alone the military? Trying to "defend your freedom" in a situation like that would basically be pissing in the wind.
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;51749484]...No? Not even close. Do you understand what kind of disparity there is between what is available for civilians to buy and what is available to the police, let alone the military? Trying to "defend your freedom" in a situation like that would basically be pissing in the wind.[/QUOTE]
I personally disagree.
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;51749484]...No? Not even close. Do you understand what kind of disparity there is between what is available for civilians to buy and what is available to the police, let alone the military? Trying to "defend your freedom" in a situation like that would basically be pissing in the wind.[/QUOTE]
For one thing, I highly doubt American soldiers and police would fire using live ammunition on protesters. They'd sooner join them in overthrowing the government if enough of America was against the regime.
If police or military ever opened fire against protesters in the US, it'll be the biggest revolution and rise up in history.
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;51749522]If police or military ever opened fire against protesters in the US, it'll be the biggest revolution and rise up in history.[/QUOTE]
I think if police did it they'd spin it off as the protesters being at fault
[QUOTE=DogGunn;51748283]Well considering that many of the Trump voters believe that immigrants are taking their jobs, probably not as many as you're alluding to.[/QUOTE]
I always hated that argument, that immigrants are "taking our jobs".
The jobs aren't being [I]taken[/I], they're [I]given[/I] to them. Who decides who does and does not get hired at a business? Could it be... The businesses themselves?
[QUOTE=Skanic;51748474]How can I be a Trump supporter? I don't even live there.
Also nice way of generalise people you don't agree with.
The only thing I like about Trump are all the internet memes.
I think he is alright at the moment.
Also don't get the comparison to fascism. Well at least in the USA you guys still got your Guns so if push comes to shove you can defend your freedom.[/QUOTE]
Genuine question: Why do you think he's alright at the moment?
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;51749522]If police or military ever opened fire against protesters in the US, it'll be the biggest revolution and rise up in history.[/QUOTE]
Kent State shootings say otherwise, though there would be one hell of a shitstorm.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;51749592]I always hated that argument, that immigrants are "taking our jobs".
The jobs aren't being [I]taken[/I], they're [I]given[/I] to them. Who decides who does and does not get hired at a business? Could it be... The businesses themselves?[/QUOTE]
It's their notion that the less competition is there for jobs, especially less immigrants, the more likely it is for them to get hired for said jobs. They aren't wrong if you use that line of reasoning, the issue is that there isn't enough in the way of jobs to go about, nor do low end jobs pay all that much.
Doesn't change the fact, of course, that voting for him because the immigrants 'took our jobs' is a bad idea, but to them, their reasoning, being more simplistic, finds more purchase than an explanation why this is wrong from people who know better. Most human beings have a habit of finding something to blame and prefer to latch on scapegoats than realize some problems can't be solved with the declaration of no immigrants and building a useless wall to waste money on.
[QUOTE=Skanic;51748474]How can I be a Trump supporter? I don't even live there.[/QUOTE]
I'm speechless. If you had any credibility before this one statement has blown it away for me.
Like what do you think the definition of "Trump supporter" is? The phrase is literally the definition and by no means has a basis in location.
Can't we just redo the election?
I'm sure it'll be different this time.
[QUOTE=Samson0722;51750362]Can't we just redo the election?
I'm sure it'll be different this time.[/QUOTE]
I honestly think it would be. One of the main reasons Trump won was because the media lulled people into believing that he didn't have a chance in the world, people got careless.
Then again the EC could just make people waste their vote again so who knows.
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;51749522]If police or military ever opened fire against protesters in the US, it'll be the biggest revolution and rise up in history.[/QUOTE]
People's Park, 1969
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;51749592]I always hated that argument, that immigrants are "taking our jobs".
The jobs aren't being [I]taken[/I], they're [I]given[/I] to them. Who decides who does and does not get hired at a business? Could it be... The businesses themselves?[/QUOTE]
Itøs even dumber when you consider that unemplyment is almost at an [URL="http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate"]all time low[/URL]
not everyone can do it, consider it an achievement
[QUOTE=archangel125;51749520]For one thing, I highly doubt American soldiers and police would fire using live ammunition on protesters. They'd sooner join them in overthrowing the government if enough of America was against the regime.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure the implication used here and favored by a lot of gun nuts is that guns are necessary for if (when) a police state forms and sends people knocking at your door.
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