Sony announces Scholarships for women trying to get into the gaming industry
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[QUOTE=The Baconator;39697145]true but I am talking about over 20 years of my life, it just seems comic books have been irrelevant forever now[/QUOTE]
Video games have a serious risk of going the way of comics if they dont start developing serious narratives, i think making the industry being much more diverse will help a looot.
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[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;39700165]Video games have a serious risk of going the way of comics if they dont start developing serious narratives, i think making the industry being much more diverse will help a looot.[/QUOTE]
Video games are already starting to go down the comic book path by thinking that darkness and grittiness = mature and serious. Some of the big-time games at last year's E3 was getting dangerously close to being like 90s comic books.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39699292]I have a hard time believing that 47% of the people that play video games are women - well, if we include platforms like iOS, Android or WP I guess it's spot on, but when it comes to PC, PS3, Wii and XBOX, you'll have to pull out a source.[/QUOTE]
'video game' includes mobile video games.
This thread is literally a carbon copy of the last one.
[QUOTE=Ziron;39700783]Video games are already starting to go down the comic book path by thinking that darkness and grittiness = mature and serious. Some of the big-time games at last year's E3 was getting dangerously close to being like 90s comic books.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the last thing we can afford is going down the same path that dc did.
[img]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2011/09/2011-09-26-math.png[/img]
See this? This is what we risk turning into and it will [i]kill[/i] the hobby if it's not smacked down soon.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;39700165]Video games have a serious risk of going the way of comics if they dont start developing serious narratives, i think making the industry being much more diverse will help a looot.[/QUOTE]
I agree, but I think it's a complicated issue. This is merely anecdotal, but of the customers that flood into the store day after day, many are not looking for a video game to have a serious narrative or necessarily much narrative at all. Getting more games to have a serious narrative is not going to fix the issue, at least not on its own. It's also a perception problem, largely from society but also from within the industry. Games are seen as being for children, for teenagers, and largely for males and, because of this perception, many of the games being developed are targeted for that audience. I know it's a cliche term, but it really is a vicious cycle.
It's the right idea though. More games having serious (or, if not serious, then well-developed) narratives can bring the industry to a higher standard. More diversity both in the industry and in the gaming community will allow for more viewpoints, more opinions, and more creativity. Games like Call of Duty, Serious Sam, or Mario will all have their place still, but it would be nice to see more Mass Effects, more Heavy Rains, and more Walking Dead's, and to go even beyond those. And for god's sake, let's bring some levity back. I like "Dark n' Serious" as much as the next person, but humor and charm needs to make a resurgence. Give me more Portal's, give me more Journey's, give me more Rayman's...shit, even give me more Borderlands'. Humor, charm, and lightness are severely undervalued.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;39701052]I agree, but I think it's a complicated issue. This is merely anecdotal, but of the customers that flood into the store day after day, many are not looking for a video game to have a serious narrative or necessarily much narrative at all. Getting more games to have a serious narrative is not going to fix the issue, at least not on its own. It's also a perception problem, largely from society but also from within the industry. Games are seen as being for children, for teenagers, and largely for males and, because of this perception, many of the games being developed are targeted for that audience. I know it's a cliche term, but it really is a vicious cycle.
It's the right idea though. More games having serious (or, if not serious, then well-developed) narratives can bring the industry to a higher standard. More diversity both in the industry and in the gaming community will allow for more viewpoints, more opinions, and more creativity. Games like Call of Duty, Serious Sam, or Mario will all have their place still, but it would be nice to see more Mass Effects, more Heavy Rains, and more Walking Dead's, and to go even beyond those. And for god's sake, let's bring some levity back. I like "Dark n' Serious" as much as the next person, but humor and charm needs to make a resurgence. Give me more Portal's, give me more Journey's, give me more Rayman's...shit, even give me more Borderlands'. Humor, charm, and lightness are severely undervalued.[/QUOTE]
i agree. i think that serious narratives are good and all, but what the industry needs is more narrative diversity.
[QUOTE='[sluggo];39695800']That is how genders work though, as a rule, men and women have different interests. How many women compared to men play videogames? Not many, and the reason for that is not massive discrimination.[/QUOTE]
Women actually make up the majority of PC gamers
Fuck you Sony, give scholarships to everybody.
[QUOTE=Ziron;39700783]Video games are already starting to go down the comic book path by thinking that darkness and grittiness = mature and serious. Some of the big-time games at last year's E3 was getting dangerously close to being like 90s comic books.[/QUOTE]
Unreal tournament 3 all over again.
It was a atrocious over-the-top nitty-gritty game that were more of a shitty offshot of gears of war than part of the UT series.
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-about to drop her oversized drawing tablet
-light to the side causes eye strain and should be behind the monitor
man and they WONDER why they aren't in the industry
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[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;39701346]Women actually make up the majority of PC gamers[/QUOTE]
if you count facebook games, sure, else can you source that?
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;39695571]there is surprisingly high ammount of misogyny in game industry(and player base) when comparing with other kinds of media which is still somewhat high, quite a few women are turned away due to it, this isn't really news.[/QUOTE]
Every single woman I've played with in both fps and mmos never gave a shit and were usually the first to tease people, guess it's because I usually play with people I meet through fighting games and that's just what we do, no holds barred smacktalking, it's healthy to get it out of you system.
[QUOTE=The Pretender;39701424]Fuck you Sony, give scholarships to everybody.[/QUOTE]
When women aren't involved?
They aren't interested
When men aren't involved?
SEXISM!!!!
[QUOTE=Trogdon;39701995]When women aren't involved?
They aren't interested
When men aren't involved?
SEXISM!!!![/QUOTE]
There is a difference between actively excluding people and making it open for everyone.
[QUOTE=Ericson666;39696002] but far too many people think working in the game industry is one wild party. It's a job like any other job[/QUOTE]
It is a big party until the deadline comes closer :v:
[QUOTE=legolover122;39702073]There is a difference between actively excluding people and making it open for everyone.[/QUOTE]
it is so unfair that white men are always seen as second rate citizens.
:'(
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;39701052]
It's the right idea though. More games having serious (or, if not serious, then well-developed) narratives can bring the industry to a higher standard. More diversity both in the industry and in the gaming community will allow for more viewpoints, more opinions, and more creativity. Games like Call of Duty, Serious Sam, or Mario will all have their place still, but it would be nice to see more Mass Effects, more Heavy Rains, and more Walking Dead's, and to go even beyond those. And for god's sake, let's bring some levity back. I like "Dark n' Serious" as much as the next person, but humor and charm needs to make a resurgence. Give me more Portal's, give me more Journey's, give me more Rayman's...shit, even give me more Borderlands'. Humor, charm, and lightness are severely undervalued.[/QUOTE]By serious I meant well-developed. Even the very best the medium has to offer is relatively weak. I totally understand why people still look at it like toys.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I don't think the rampant misogyny in the gaming industry is an issue that will be fixed just by getting more women to work in it, and giving them money as an incentive seems like a pretty crude way to go about doing it.
I'd rather see the money put towards encouraging developers to make games that are more gender-neutral, not at either extreme of tits'n'guns 'because only men play games' or pink and cuddly because 'otherwise women won't like it'. If games were made that appealed to women as much as men (and it's really not hard to do once you start thinking beyond Call of Duty), this wouldn't be a problem.
I think the issue is less about women having more difficulty than men getting into the industry and more about how the industry as a whole portrays women and thereby alienates them as consumers. Offering cash for someone to go into an industry that they feel objectifies them doesn't seem like a solution.
Am I reading too much into this?
It would be funny if a guy manages to get this scholarship because there aren't any girls applying for it.
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