German President succumbs to British empire, wants English as primary European language.
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[QUOTE=cdr248;39699701]No, you [I]were[/I]winning them and America said "Sit down Little Jimmy I got this!" and fucked up Hitler's shit.
/joke[/QUOTE]
Why I oughta!
That's it if Serbia gets into the EU i am moving to Kazakhstan or Mongolia,as far away as possible
[QUOTE=IPK;39699906]That's it if Serbia gets into the EU i am moving to Kazakhstan or Mongolia,as far away as possible[/QUOTE]
Why?
[QUOTE=GREN EYGS N HAM;39687262]Would be great if everyone had to learn English and be good at it so you can actually communicate with other people when traveling within the EU.[/QUOTE]
Hungary is deliberately trying to make it harder to get educated in English and German, to try and put a stopper in the bottle that is the EU. Trying to stop themselves haemorraghing young people into the wider EU.
[QUOTE=Hellduck;39699946]Why?[/QUOTE]
I am a Serb,a regular human wouldn't understand
[QUOTE=IPK;39700413]I am a Serb,a regular human wouldn't understand[/QUOTE]
I am Polish, and I do.
It sucks that native english speakers are highly likely to remain unilingual until they die.
[QUOTE=alien_guy;39700436]It sucks that native english speakers are highly likely to remain unilingual until they die.[/QUOTE]
How so, it's not like we don't teach other languages in schools and the like, when I was about 9 or 10 I was being taught French in school, just a shame I hate French and would have preferred to learn German but still.
I agree with the point that there are phrases and words that lose meaning when translated to English, but that's the reason we use English; it's a common melting pot of lots and lots of languages. Words like "der Waldesrand" in German, it means "the edge of the forest". We don't have a word for it in English. We'd have to describe it the way it is. Much like the French "l'esprit de escalier" (I forget the exact spelling). There's no word in English to describe the feeling you get when you come up with a retort after the argument has ended.
Hence why many people use English; it forces you to be very literal in your meanings.
Singapore did this. Adopting English as as their primary language helped in creating a business friendly environment and that helped making Singapore super rich. But I doubt it would work the same way if Europe did it. And I doubt that any European country would accept that kind of loss of cultural identity because were all very arrogant about it.
[QUOTE=Lizzrd;39687226]English IS the most widespread political language, so to be honest I'm not really suprised.
Talking about number of countries using it btw, not percentage of people.[/QUOTE]
You can thank AMURICA for that.
[QUOTE=Satansick;39702631]Singapore did this. Adopting English as as their primary language helped in creating a business friendly environment and that helped making Singapore super rich. But I doubt it would work the same way if Europe did it. And I doubt that any European country would accept that kind of loss of cultural identity because were all very arrogant about it.[/QUOTE]
Why does everyone think that learning english means loss of culture. That's just stupid and silly.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;39703711]Why does everyone think that learning english means loss of culture. That's just stupid and silly.[/QUOTE]
People start replacing native words with english ones etc. There should be a law that bans the use of foreign words in native languages
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39687264]I swear I can actually hear him felate the ego of the UK as a whole.[/QUOTE]
FUCK YEAH BRITAIN 2K13
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;39695674]we should really consider a worldwide official language.[/QUOTE]
No. Let the world decide one/two/three? unofficially as time progresses. We can assume English would be the official working language, but that's for today. We don't know what the world would look like in the future.
[editline]24th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Satansick;39702631]Singapore did this. Adopting English as as their primary language helped in creating a business friendly environment and that helped making Singapore super rich. But I doubt it would work the same way if Europe did it. And I doubt that any European country would accept that kind of loss of cultural identity because were all very arrogant about it.[/QUOTE]
Eh. No. The country's primary language is just a factor to it. Philippines has English as primary language, do you see it as super rich and business friendly? Fuck no. It's poor, very protectionist and not business friendly. This doesn't also explains Germany, China, and Japan, three countries who don't have English as an official language.
It's not the language, mate. It's the policies. Capitalists are flexible enough anyway.
[QUOTE=FrankOfArabia;39703190]You can thank AMURICA for that.[/QUOTE]
And who taught AMURICA to speak English? Ohh yeah the British. Even if you did somehow manage to screw it up along the way with silly words like "color" rather than "colour" and "soccer" rather than "football"
If this is something that is actually going to happen, then I think federalization of the EU is inevitable.
[QUOTE=IPK;39704076]People start replacing native words with english ones etc. There should be a law that bans the use of foreign words in native languages[/QUOTE]
Trying to regulate culture is just one of the stupidest things...
[QUOTE=IPK;39704076]People start replacing native words with english ones etc. There should be a law that bans the use of foreign words in native languages[/QUOTE]
Or you could just grow up and accept that language is fluid and will assimilate other languages or aspects of language.
[QUOTE=deltasquid;39698094]The good part about Latin is that it's consistent.
If the Romans say A is A, it's god damn A. There's very little exceptions to anything in their grammar, their spelling is the easiest thing ever (every letter is pronounced one way only, few diphthongs, no silent letters) so the only problem with Latin is that you need to learn quite a few rules from scratch. The good thing is that, unlike English, you barely have to remember exceptions to said rules.
Latin is actually a very easy language to learn, it's just that nobody speaks it, so training it is hard.[/QUOTE]
Agree. It would require an intensive investment on the next generation if you want to have a sizeable amount of Latin speakers, nonetheless, it's actually very easy to learn (from personal experience).
As for the EU's case; English seems to be a good choice for a practical short-term working language, but Latin is definitely the idealistic long-term if you want to build up a new country that needs a neutral language.
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[QUOTE=dunkace;39704316]And who taught AMURICA to speak English? Ohh yeah the British. Even if you did somehow manage to screw it up along the way with silly words like "color" rather than "colour" and "soccer" rather than "football"[/QUOTE]
You can blame Webster for that.
Why Latin, a dead language? English is already rooted, it works. Learning Latin is like undoing all we have just for whatever reason.
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Eh. No. The country's primary language is just a factor to it. Philippines has English as primary language, do you see it as super rich and business friendly? Fuck no. It's poor, very protectionist and not business friendly. This doesn't also explains Germany, China, and Japan, three countries who don't have English as an official language.
It's not the language, mate. It's the policies. Capitalists are flexible enough anyway.[/QUOTE]
I said it helped create that environment not that it was a direct consequence of that decision. Of course other policies helped to get them super rich but making English their primary language was one of them. It made the country more attractive to foreign investors. And I also already said that it probably wouldn't work in Europe, the reason being is that we're already super rich.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;39704457]Why Latin, a dead language? English is already rooted, it works. Learning Latin is like undoing all we have just for whatever reason.[/QUOTE]
If you're looking for a neutral "European" language in the future with the least moaners as possible, that's the most viable choice. It is expensive, but it will be their language (since the previous owners are extinct). I would choose that rather than to be culturally subjected by another.
[QUOTE=Satansick;39704707]I said it helped create that environment not that it was a direct consequence of that decision. Of course other policies helped to get them super rich but making English their primary language was one of them. It made the country more attractive to foreign investors. [/QUOTE]
Learning the working language is fine, but making it the official and primary language of your country? Nah. That's taking too far. I'm not a fan of this "one global culture" thing.
[QUOTE]And I also already said that it probably wouldn't work in Europe, the reason being is that we're already super rich.[/QUOTE]
I agree.
the eu should just speak amurican instead
[QUOTE=IPK;39700413]I am a Serb,a regular human wouldn't understand[/QUOTE]
Stop IPK with your "I'm a serb hohohoho" shit please.
I'm a Croatian, Serbian, American, Canadian, and German, and I approve of this idea.
This isn't about American or British Superiority or something, English is the most common Western language in the world, has more countries as its official language than others, therefore making it an ideal "common" language. As much as some nationalist will hate it because they're some bandwagon hater on America or something, English is the perfect opportunity to increase ease of communications in the EU.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39701050]How so, it's not like we don't teach other languages in schools and the like, when I was about 9 or 10 I was being taught French in school, just a shame I hate French and would have preferred to learn German but still.[/QUOTE]
I had 3 choices in highschool. Spanish, French, and American Sign Language. German would have been nice though. I agree a little bit that America shouldn't be only English, I feel we should learn a few languages ourself. Just as long as it's not Spanish to be honest. Learning German or French as a second language required by everyone would be neat but probably will never happen here. Plus, Canada is our border to the north which is why French comes in handy. Not very often you'll speak German or Polish Ect here in America.
[QUOTE=deltasquid;39687374]When the English tongue we speak.
Why is break not rhymed with freak?
Will you tell me why it's true
We say sew but likewise few?
And the maker of the verse,
Cannot rhyme his horse with worse?
Beard is not the same as heard
Cord is different from word.
Cow is cow but low is low
Shoe is never rhymed with foe.
Think of hose, dose,and lose
And think of goose and yet with choose
Think of comb, tomb and bomb,
Doll and roll or home and some.
Since pay is rhymed with say
Why not paid with said I pray?
Think of blood, food and good.
Mould is not pronounced like could.
Wherefore done, but gone and lone -
Is there any reason known?
To sum up all, it seems to me
Sound and letters don't agree.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=StupidUsername67;39705604]the eu should just speak amurican instead[/QUOTE]
Not gonna lie the "Amurican" shit gets annoying after a while. Not like we sit here and call you 'redcoats' all day anyways.
[QUOTE=IPK;39704076]People start replacing native words with english ones etc. There should be a law that bans the use of foreign words in native languages[/QUOTE]
It's not like they're doing it already, everywhere.
Oh oh. Even more.
It's not like just about any language consists up to 60% of loanwords with varying degrees of adaptation.
[QUOTE=Terragen;39705816]Not gonna lie the "Amurican" shit gets annoying after a while. Not like we sit here and call you 'redcoats' all day anyways.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for not doing that by the way. :smile:
[editline]25th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=IPK;39704076]People start replacing native words with english ones etc. There should be a law that bans the use of foreign words in native languages[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they do that in France more-or-less, and it's the most ineffectual shit ever.
People keep using slang, to some extent, so the purity is still gone, but the language becomes inflexible as a result. So you get the worst of both worlds.
[QUOTE=dunkace;39704316]And who taught AMURICA to speak English? Ohh yeah the British. Even if you did somehow manage to screw it up along the way with silly words like "color" rather than "colour" and "soccer" rather than "football"[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't have given us the term "association football" if you didn't want us to turn it into the slang term "soccer", ye bastards.
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