• US Government Declares 22 Clinton Emails as "Top Secret"
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[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;49635381]If it comes down to Clinton vs Trump I'll vote for Trump. At least he isn't in the pocket of every major corporation, just his own.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that way he can cut out the middleman and really streamline our inefficient corruption.
How can something that was completely unclassified a few years ago suddenly be TS? I hope this helps sanders
Her flip-floppyness being at the level of "Democratic version of Mitt Romney" + this makes her too untrustworthy to be pres.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49635531]Yeah, that way he can cut out the middleman and really streamline our inefficient corruption.[/QUOTE] Lesser evil than Hillary. At least he's been visibly consistent. Bernie will just be another senile man, like Reagan was, and Ted Cruz is already under crutch.
[QUOTE=Wii60;49633099]rip Hillary 2016[/QUOTE] If only. [editline]29th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49635672]Lesser evil than Hillary. At least he's been visibly consistent. Bernie will just be another senile man, like Reagan was, and Ted Cruz is already under crutch.[/QUOTE] Sanders and Trump are like the same age. and Sanders is clearly the consistent one. [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1503816&p=49635682#post49635682[/url]
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49635699]If only. [editline]29th January 2016[/editline] Sanders and Trump are like the same age. and Sanders is clearly the consistent one. [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1503816&p=49635682#post49635682[/url][/QUOTE] Yes, with Sanders clearly showing the most age, in this equation. Disregarding his already inane liberal policy, Trump is truly the only independent candidate, though he ironically isn't involved in the party.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49635792]Yes, with Sanders clearly showing the most age[/QUOTE] Maybe if he dyed his hair orange...
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49635935]Maybe if he dyed his hair orange...[/QUOTE] Or, maybe if he showed evidence that he isn't forgetting and stuttering most of what he says. That wouldn't be really good for diplomatic talks, you know. Gotta have that silver tongue.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49635955]Or, maybe if he showed evidence that he isn't forgetting and stuttering most of what he says. That wouldn't be really good for diplomatic talks, you know. Gotta have that silver tongue.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, can't have a guy who stutters sometimes. World leaders might just flip their tables in disgust and storm out of the building! What we need for diplomacy is the guy who our closest allies debated banning from the country! Trump's boorish populism might impress the more pliable voters, but he'd make the Bush era look like a golden age of international love for America.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49635955]Or, maybe if he showed evidence that he isn't forgetting and stuttering most of what he says. That wouldn't be really good for diplomatic talks, you know. Gotta have that silver tongue.[/QUOTE] Right, it'd be so much better to have a president that impulsively insults people with petty childish words like "bimbo." As long as he's speaking clearly.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49635699]If only. [editline]29th January 2016[/editline] Sanders and Trump are like the same age. and Sanders is clearly the consistent one. [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1503816&p=49635682#post49635682[/url][/QUOTE] Trump and Hildebeast are the same age, which is 7 years younger than Sanders.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49636015]Oh yeah, can't have a guy who stutters sometimes. World leaders might just flip their tables in disgust and storm out of the building! What we need for diplomacy is the guy who our closest allies debated banning from the country! Trump's boorish populism might impress the more pliable voters, but he'd make the Bush era look like a golden age of international love for America.[/QUOTE] If you seriously think Britain is in any shape to make such diplomatic suicide with a nuke-armed powerhouse, you're seriously mistaken. Also, the Bush era featured a swell relationship with Russia, which is something Obama lost out on, due to his overtly bureaucratic policies meshing with their more straightforward ones. [QUOTE=Helix Snake;49636018]Right, it'd be so much better to have a president that impulsively insults people with petty childish words like "bimbo." As long as he's speaking clearly.[/QUOTE] Childish reporters ensuing Godwin's rule are not to be treated with the same respect as actual political figures.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49636036]Childish reporters ensuing Godwin's rule are not to be treated with the same respect as actual political figures.[/QUOTE] I agree. So why would you vote for Trump anyway?
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;49636044]I agree. So why would you vote for Trump anyway?[/QUOTE] In case you aren't being sarcastic, it's for the fact he's been supporting his own campaign, leaving little room for influence by a third party, and the fact he's been mostly saying things that go against both the conservative and liberal mindsets that were popularised about a hundred years ago to box us in.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49636057]In case you aren't being sarcastic, it's for the fact he's been supporting his own campaign, leaving little room for influence by a third party, and the fact he's been mostly saying things that go against both the conservative and liberal mindsets that were popularised about a hundred years ago to box us in.[/QUOTE] I could say "Let's bomb the Pope!", and that would also go against "the conservative and liberal mindsets." Fortunately I don't conclude that if the people I don't like are against something, it must be good.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49636076]I could say "Let's bomb the Pope!", and that would also go against "the conservative and liberal mindsets." Fortunately I don't conclude that if the people I don't like are against something, it must be good.[/QUOTE] What kind of anecdote is that supposed to be? He's never said anything like that.
[QUOTE=Ridge;49636033]Trump and Hildebeast are the same age, which is 7 years younger than Sanders.[/QUOTE] Hillary (the youngest) is less than 6 years younger than Sanders
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49633006]I don't give a shit about the fact that she didn't take the danger of this seriously but the fact that she pretends to be an idiot grandma when pressed about it is just gross.[/QUOTE] Actually Im the reverse, I don't care if you are a 30 or 70 year old senator, knowing basic computer security knowledge would go a long way towards securing our governments cyber infrastructure. Many senators don't understand how email works much less how they're always actively undermining its security, and whenever cyber security is discussed on the capital its painfully obvious they don't understand at all anything about how to keep their own computers relatively safe let alone make policy decisions that affect how citizens will be able to secure their computers Nobody in Congress would be talking about backdoors if they for example had their home traffic intercepted by man in the middle attacks and malware installed through it. They certainly wouldn't be talking about banning encryption if their unencrypted email traffic was being intercepted and posted online
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49636089]What kind of anecdote is that supposed to be? He's never said anything like that.[/QUOTE] No, but he sure has said a whole lot of things extreme enough to give even his own side legitimate reason not to like him, and approximately nothing of actual insight.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49636099]No, but he sure has said a whole lot of things extreme enough to give even his own side legitimate reason not to like him, and approximately nothing of actual insight.[/QUOTE] Except he is still leading in the popularity charts, and fleeting ever higher. Mostly everything he's said resonates with the ever-growing extremist politicians in the country, tired of the last few hundred years of bipartisanship.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49636117]Except he is still leading in the popularity charts, and fleeting ever higher. [/QUOTE] Which is exactly what is so awful about him. That so many people can't see through a facade that's like a tissue paper in front of a spotlight is what's truly terrifying. So many people too busy riding down a stream of uninterrupted pathos to stop and think. It's not that Trump is Hitler, it's how little of a difference it would make if he were.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49636150]Which is exactly what is so awful about him. That so many people can't see through a facade that's like a tissue paper in front of a spotlight is what's truly terrifying. So many people too busy riding down a stream of uninterrupted pathos to stop and think. It's not that Trump is Hitler, it's how little of a difference it would make if he were.[/QUOTE] So, you only hate him because he's popular, and if it were anyone else, you'd be just the same? That seems like you're just hamming on him for the sake of the contrary.
[QUOTE=cody8295;49635577]How can something that was completely unclassified a few years ago suddenly be TS? I hope this helps sanders[/QUOTE]As it was explained to me: [U]technically[/U] there's all sorts of secret documents ones that are freely available online. This might make you go "what, that doesn't make any sense" but consider that the classification is for the document in full, an excerpt from a document or from a selection of documents that are all collectively Top Secret doesn't exactly count. So if you go through the proper channels and reference something in a classified document and that excerpt doesn't harm the integrity of the document, everything's okay. Is it still illegal to pull from these documents or write shit down just because you want to? Hell yes it is, but that little tidbit that you took technically hasn't been classified. Anyone with knowledge of the original document can read it and go "wait what the fuck? this shit is clearly classified" and then your napkin scribble is now a classified document. [I]As far as I know[/I] (Maverick1B please correct me on all this if I'm wrong) this sort of thing doesn't extend to anything above Secret, so if Hillary had actual fucking Top Secret documents in her emails then she's done a big no-no and the government has had to declare her napkin scribbles classified documents. [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49635672]Lesser evil than Hillary. At least he's been visibly consistent. Bernie will just be another senile man, like Reagan was, and Ted Cruz is already under crutch.[/QUOTE] You know what really did it for me with Trump? Before I actually sat down and went through all the shit he's said I examined one thing that convinced me he's trash: he said John McCain isn't a war hero and gave him shit for getting captured. Trump (at the time) was a draft-dodging son of a bitch who was busy making his daddy money. I'm not voting for Hillary or Trump, I don't do this "lesser evil" bullshit when there's other options. Even then I'll write in motherfucking Kevin Spacey if I was forced to choose between them and only them and I'd do it as a big fuck-you to the whole situation.
I wonder how much money Goldman Sachs spent do achieve this.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49636191]So, you only hate him because he's popular, and if it were anyone else, you'd be just the same? That seems like you're just hamming on him for the sake of the contrary.[/QUOTE] No. It's that if it were anyone else, [I]his supporters[/I] would be the same. It's how close he could get to being Hitler and get away with it.
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;49632925]Not exactly... 1. She lied to the Democrats (and Democratic Voters), 2. TOP SECRET IS NSA, CIA, FBI Level Combined... 3. She is running a Presidential Run and she gave Ammo to the GOP.[/QUOTE] There are higher levels than Top Secret. Security levels on documents is vast and deep.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49635792]Yes, with Sanders clearly showing the most age, in this equation. Disregarding his already inane liberal policy, Trump is truly the only independent candidate, though he ironically isn't involved in the party.[/QUOTE] fyi this was what donald trump used to look like [IMG]https://i2.wp.com/d1zlh37f1ep3tj.cloudfront.net/wp/wblob/54592E651337D2/B19/119661/lx3Gbx4k2QxlqQ4V2mbmSw/donald-300x300.jpg[/IMG] i am no longer surprised to hear he is nearly 70 years old
[QUOTE=Code3Response;49638570]There are higher levels than Top Secret. Security levels on documents is vast and deep.[/QUOTE] There are probably security clearances that require other clearances to even know about
Top Secret is the highest, there can just be information with Secret or Top Secret clearence that is on a need-to-know basis, and even of you have top secret clearence you still need a background check done to access that information basically.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49638496]No. It's that if it were anyone else, [I]his supporters[/I] would be the same. It's how close he could get to being Hitler and get away with it.[/QUOTE] All you can do is pull Godwin, and act like that means anything, other than a rather generic liberal fallacy. Your blatant hatred for him only popularizes him in the eyes of people who oppose your political kind, you know.
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