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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49639663]so everyone will forever stay segregated in their own communities? you are so historically ignorant of how things have come to pass that it's actually shocking. technology is the result of different peoples from different places in the world coming together. please destroy your computer as it the parts of it were no doubt made in china or taiwan, and as a opponent to globalism, you're supporting the regime by holding on to your computer, you should destroy it if you feel even the slightest honesty to your own beliefs.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but if you think having the cultures respect each-other, rather than have some chickenshit bureaucrat tell them they have to "share" everything, and refusing someone the right to identify by their own cultural standings, you are the one who misunderstands human nature, and the inherent supremacy that lurks in all races, nations, and creeds of humanity. It is something Marxists think they can withhold, but they are beyond the control of themselves. [editline]30th January 2016[/editline] Also, uniculturalism doesn't mean we can't have computers, since one could simply have them built here, by American industries, using American labour, and American finance. Now I'm beginning to identify with trump. Capisce?
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639757]I'm sorry, but if you think having the cultures respect each-other, rather than have some chickenshit bureaucrat tell them they have to "share" everything, and refusing someone the right to identify by their own cultural standings, you are the one who misunderstands human nature, and the inherent supremacy that lurks in all races, nations, and creeds of humanity. It is something Marxists think they can withhold, but they are beyond the control of themselves.[/QUOTE] you probably can't even explain to me what you mean by this, so there's no point in me asking. Cultures can blend and respect each other. As for how you're historically ignorant, at what arbitrary point in time did any culture coalesce into being "A culture"? Do you know how those cultures got there? Do you realize that any culture has absorbed and changed because of the other cultures around it? Do you deny history? Do you deny that civilizations grew and changed over time and formed new and different cultures? How do you reconcile that historical knowledge with your entirely false concept of what you think culture is? [editline]30th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639757] Also, uniculturalism doesn't mean we can't have computers, since one could simply have them built here, by American industries, using American labour, and American finance. Now I'm beginning to identify with trump. Capisce?[/QUOTE] No you fucking can't that's the whole point i'm making. Guess what metal the USA doesn't have in it's own borders? Tantalum. Tantalum, one of the most important, and precious metals on earth for consumer electronics, and you're saying with the power of wishes, hopes, dreams, and uniculturalism, that you can shit out whatever you want because you tried hard enough? No. You'd have to trade for it. Guess what happens when you trade with someone for long enough? [B]multiculturalism[/B] [editline]30th January 2016[/editline] You must literally live by a motto of "I substitute reality for my own"
ahahaha wow I couldn't resist this one: [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639620]That sounds very hedonist, and therefore particularly degenerate to the human race.[/QUOTE]No, it's hard-wired. See, Asian women are absolutely different than my Nordic heritage and genetically they make the most ideal mates because that genetic diversity means the gene pool will be strong, robust, and full of interesting permutations that each have the potential to be a tiny little evolutionary boost for successive generations. I'm a tall, broad-shouldered male that's ideal for her too, she looks at me and subconsciously she goes "damn, I bet he'd be an excellent choice to mix my genes with, I bet our kids are going to be amazing." That's what sexual attraction is, that's why we like certain secondary sexual characteristics and that's why things like bad hygiene, lack of facial symmetry, and malformed features are considered ugly and thus undesirable. They're bad things to give to our children. Let's take a moment though and look at it from your perspective. Racially. You're offended that I'd taint the genepool with a mix of my superior Nordic genes (I can trace my lineage back to Bavarian and Norwegian nobility, I am Waffen SS material) and those of a mongrel woman. Why are Asians mongrels? I'm [I]particularly[/I] attracted to Koreans, I love Korean food, their culture, I like their accents and their language, really I just enjoy Koreans in general. Looking at them historically Korea has been beset on all sides by hostiles (Japanese, Chinese, Mongols, etc) and still somehow the Joseon Dynasty lasted for centuries. Actually they led the region in military technology and that's how little tiny Korea managed to keep both the Japanese [U]and[/U] the Chinese at bay at the same time, only through mismanagement and political mistakes did they fall to the Japanese. Racially it makes perfect sense for me to have a Korean woman as a mate, looking at it from your perspective it would be the union of the pinnacle races of two continents coming together. As for your second point: [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639620]I suggest you stop thinking with your lower head, and instead appeal to something other than smashing my cranium open with your club, as that makes you only seem to be a brute, rather than a reasonable human being; which you are clearly not.[/QUOTE]You misunderstand, I'm well of aware of people like you and how they deal with adversity and like my ancestors before me I have no problems fucking wrecking some dipshit who wants to do me and my own harm. That's part of the reason why I have a collection of firearms after all, so please, if you really want to [I]do something[/I] about my "miscegenation" I've given you fair fucking warning I will [U]end[/U] [U]you[/U] if you try something. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes. [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639620]Revisionist Progressive history. America was never a "melting pot".[/QUOTE]lmao yes it fucking was, first it was British, French, Dutch, and Spanish settlers on Native American land and then later it was German, Austrian, Polish, and Swedish migrants that came here and finally the rest of Europe started showing up in the middle 1700's, then during the 1800's massive migrant waves from Ireland, Germany, Poland, Italy, Greece, France, [U]all[/U] of Scandinavia, and minor amounts of Russians, Turks, other Eastern Europeans, and parts of the Middle East and Asia. That's not even acknowledging the literal shiploads of Africans that were brought over for slave labor. The United States has always been a microcosm of the world, you can pretend it was always a "white nation" but at the same time the people who say that seem to forget that they never include Spaniards or Italians in that category. Yeah, I'm fully aware of what the "racially aware" motherfuckers think but the difference is I'm not buying it. Or at least I don't hug myself at night thinking about how white I am because really, when you're as cynical and abrasive as I am you tend to stop dividing people by their petty differences and accept that a vast majority are somewhere around "mediocre." Frankly the most fervent defenders of the white race are some of it's most pathetic specimens, I don't need some violent troglodyte who is waiting for the day when he can openly lynch "the niggers, gooks, and beaners" as a champion to defend my race. As I stated already before, I'm quite well-armed and very capable of defending myself. In short: no, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Again.
DohEntertainmen is a troll guys, that should have been obvious to his response to my post on Page 2. All his posts are either xenophobic, anti-semitic, far-right garbage, or conspiracies (9/11, holocaust, etc). He's trying to get reactions and start fights.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49639790]DohEntertainmen is a troll guys, that should have been obvious to his response to my post on Page 2. All his posts are either xenophobic, anti-semitic, far-right garbage, or conspiracies (9/11, holocaust, etc). He's trying to get reactions and start fights.[/QUOTE] People genuinely hold crazy beliefs. I don't think he's a troll just because he holds crazy beliefs. Trolls are not always crazy. Crazy people are not always trolls.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49639790]DohEntertainmen is a troll guys, that should have been obvious to his response to my post on Page 2. All his posts are either xenophobic, anti-semitic, far-right garbage, or conspiracies (9/11, holocaust, etc). He's trying to get reactions and start fights.[/QUOTE]I'm intimately familiar with the white pride worldwide crowd and I can recognize that shit when I see it. Really not getting a troll vibe right now.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639757]I'm sorry, but if you think having the cultures respect each-other, rather than have some chickenshit bureaucrat tell them they have to "share" everything, and refusing someone the right to identify by their own cultural standings, you are the one who misunderstands human nature, and the inherent supremacy that lurks in all races, nations, and creeds of humanity.[/QUOTE] Hi, HumanAbyss and I live in Canada, a multicultural society that doesn't have nearly 10% of the bullshit both America and Europe are having with foreign elements causing friction with the native culture. Explain that with your "inherent supremacy" cockdribble. (There [I]is[/I] a problem with managing the current influx of refugees with the budget available but that's more emergency logistics than cultural assimilation.)
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49639814]I'm intimately familiar with the white pride worldwide crowd and I can recognize that shit when I see it. Really not getting a troll vibe right now.[/QUOTE] Just saying, pretty much everything he says just happens to be everything that would get a bad reaction from people on this board.
How do cultures form if they're forever stagnant? A culture is a collection of shared behaviors, thoughts, and actions, superstitions or beliefs. Those do not form in a vacuum. They're informed by the world around them. So one cultural tribe that grew up in one part of east asia, is going to be influenced by it's nearest neighbour tribe. Who's culture is right? Should they never cross borders? Never try and engage in sharing or cooperative behaviour? As soon as they do, there's a higher chance for those two groups to coalesce, share, and become a larger, more powerful group. Over time, the cultural differences of each section are slowly bled into each other and the culture as a whole is richer, more diverse, and the gene pool itself is richer, and more diverse. That's how culture and society is created. How does your mindset even fit in here DOh?
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49639823]Just saying, pretty much everything he says just happens to be everything that would get a bad reaction from people on this board.[/QUOTE]I'll deal with his arguments as he makes them just like I would with anyone else; I'm not one to discriminate. :v:
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49639768]Cultures can blend and respect each other. As for how you're historically ignorant, at what arbitrary point in time did any culture coalesce into being "A culture"? Do you know how those cultures got there? Do you realize that any culture has absorbed and changed because of the other cultures around it? Do you deny history? Do you deny that civilizations grew and changed over time and formed new and different cultures? How do you reconcile that historical knowledge with your entirely false concept of what you think culture is?[/QUOTE] Cultures can also not blend, yet respect each other. See where that giant paragraph begins to fall apart, now? There's no one, or the other. There's many, and I choose one. [QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49639788]ahahaha wow I couldn't resist this one:[/QUOTE] Proving your inferiority by pretending to back out sarcastically, then coming back with "ahahaha". Real mature. [QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49639788]No, it's hard-wired. See, Asian women are absolutely different than my Nordic heritage and genetically they make the most ideal mates because that genetic diversity means the gene pool will be strong, robust, and full of interesting permutations that each have the potential to be a tiny little evolutionary boost for successive generations. I'm a tall, broad-shouldered male that's ideal for her too, she looks at me and subconsciously she goes "damn, I bet he'd be an excellent choice to mix my genes with, I bet our kids are going to be amazing." That's what sexual attraction is, that's why we like certain secondary sexual characteristics and that's why things like bad hygiene, lack of facial symmetry, and malformed features are considered ugly and thus undesirable. They're bad things to give to our children.[/QUOTE] You're miscegenating them, and killing a race by one soul, when you do that. You might not care, since you're a hedonist, searching for desire, and not caring for the world's well-being, but that shouldn't surprise me. [QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49639788]You're offended that I'd taint the genepool with a mix of my superior Nordic genes (I can trace my lineage back to Bavarian and Norwegian nobility, I am Waffen SS material) and those of a mongrel woman. Why are Asians mongrels? I'm [I]particularly[/I] attracted to Koreans, I love Korean food, their culture, I like their accents and their language, really I just enjoy Koreans in general. Looking at them historically Korea has been beset on all sides by hostiles (Japanese, Chinese, Mongols, etc) and still somehow the Joseon Dynasty lasted for centuries. Actually they led the region in military technology and that's how little tiny Korea managed to keep both the Japanese [U]and[/U] the Chinese at bay at the same time, only through mismanagement and political mistakes did they fall to the Japanese. Racially it makes perfect sense for me to have a Korean woman as a mate, looking at it from your perspective it would be the union of the pinnacle races of two continents coming together.[/QUOTE] Why would you think you have the right to go around screwing them, and their race, because you're "superior". Good job generalising my argument as if I were from Stormfront, which I absolutely abhor. [QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49639788]You misunderstand, I'm well of aware of people like you and how they deal with adversity and like my ancestors before me I have no problems fucking wrecking some dipshit who wants to do me and my own harm. That's part of the reason why I have a collection of firearms after all, so please, if you really want to [I]do something[/I] about my "miscegenation" I've given you fair fucking warning I will [U]end[/U] [U]you[/U] if you try something. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.[/QUOTE] Appeal to force. Good job arguing, when you're threatening to split my head open, because I hurt your feelings. Real "superior", there. [QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49639788]lmao yes it fucking was, first it was British, French, Dutch, and Spanish settlers on Native American land and then later it was German, Austrian, Polish, and Swedish migrants that came here and finally the rest of Europe started showing up in the middle 1700's, then during the 1800's massive migrant waves from Ireland, Germany, Poland, Italy, Greece, France, [U]all[/U] of Scandinavia, and minor amounts of Russians, Turks, other Eastern Europeans, and parts of the Middle East and Asia. That's not even acknowledging the literal shiploads of Africans that were brought over for slave labor.[/QUOTE] And? That's history. Can't stop that from happening. All we can do is prevent it, and attempt to help their culture, which is currently being overrun by multiculturalists trying to identify as "half-cherokee". [QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49639788]The United States has always been a microcosm of the world, you can pretend it was always a "white nation" but at the same time the people who say that seem to forget that they never include Spaniards or Italians in that category. Yeah, I'm fully aware of what the "racially aware" motherfuckers think but the difference is I'm not buying it. Or at least I don't hug myself at night thinking about how white I am because really, when you're as cynical and abrasive as I am you tend to stop dividing people by their petty differences and accept that a vast majority are somewhere around "mediocre." Frankly the most fervent defenders of the white race are some of it's most pathetic specimens, I don't need some violent troglodyte who is waiting for the day when he can openly lynch "the niggers, gooks, and beaners" as a champion to defend my race. As I stated already before, I'm quite well-armed and very capable of defending myself.[/QUOTE] Again, that argument means nothing, as the events of America's creation have no part in it's creed. Manifest Destiny itself goes against "melting pot" cultures, given their conquests for governmental supremacy were well a thing, and Andrew Jackson was gonna have none of that. [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49639790]DohEntertainmen is a troll guys, that should have been obvious to his response to my post on Page 2. All his posts are either xenophobic, anti-semitic, far-right garbage, or conspiracies (9/11, holocaust, etc). He's trying to get reactions and start fights.[/QUOTE] I'm serious. Now you can start saying "I can't even", or similar statements even more in response to me, proving your immaturity over someone having autonomous thoughts. [QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49639814]I'm intimately familiar with the white pride worldwide crowd and I can recognize that shit when I see it. Really not getting a troll vibe right now.[/QUOTE] I'm not white, though.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639888]Cultures can also not blend, yet respect each other. See where that giant paragraph begins to fall apart, now? There's no one, or the other. There's many, and I choose one. [/QUOTE] Again. How do cultures form? How did China become China, when before it was China, it was a thousand separate entities? Should those city states have stayed as they were? Separate? Their own culture?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49639902]Again. How do cultures form? How did China become China, when before it was China, it was a thousand separate entities? Should those city states have stayed as they were? Separate? Their own culture?[/QUOTE] I'm not saying that's right. For all I care, Europe should've stayed pure Celtic. To hell with the Romans, but that's was settled a long time ago, wasn't it? It should not happen anymore. That's my point. The supremacy ends when it is allowed. Just like gun violence with legal gun ownership. All one needs to do is purge the hypocrisy of letting rapists take their victims to court over Pepper Spray.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49639902]Again. How do cultures form? How did China become China, when before it was China, it was a thousand separate entities? Should those city states have stayed as they were? Separate? Their own culture?[/QUOTE] Well, ancient Greece was never a big empire, but many big independent cities, but they also shared some culture. That is why ancient Greece has such rich and colorful history, every city was unique in it's own way. If those entities in China stayed separated, there wouldn't be great Chinese culture we know today, but surely many different smaller ones. Btw, I don't really get what you all are arguing about, so don't drag me into it :v:
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639944]I'm not saying that's right. For all I care, Europe should've stayed pure Celtic. To hell with the Romans, but that's was settled a long time ago, wasn't it? It should not happen anymore. That's my point. The supremacy ends when it is allowed. Just like gun violence with legal gun ownership. All one needs to do is purge the hypocrisy of letting rapists take their victims to court over Pepper Spray.[/QUOTE] so you admit your belief is entirely arbitrary, has no basis besides your feelings based on that summary of what your belief is, again, arbitrary. Good. Conversation over. Thank you for admitting that your goal for the human race is one born out of nothing but your own personal desires, ignorance, and thoughts. It's entirely arbitrary, and can be largely disregarded as being so arbitrary, and so disconnected from the real world we live in. [editline]30th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=AntonioR;49639961]Well, ancient Greece was never a big empire, but many big independent cities, but they also shared some culture. That is why ancient Greece has such rich and colorful history. If those entities in China stayed separated, there wouldn't be great Chinese culture we know today, but surely many different smaller ones. Btw, I don't really get what you all are arguing about, so don't drag me into it :v:[/QUOTE] They each had widely differing cultures and warred with each other often. It wasn't until several centuries past that they went from being independent city states that traded resources, people, and the like between them, they became larger, and with that joint together, became more powerful as well. Their diversity benefited them. They now had talented warriors from one city, skilled thinkers from another, mathematicians from another, and etc.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49639962]so you admit your belief is entirely arbitrary, has no basis besides your feelings based on that summary of what your belief is, again, arbitrary. Good. Conversation over. Thank you for admitting that your goal for the human race is one born out of nothing but your own personal desires, ignorance, and thoughts. It's entirely arbitrary, and can be largely disregarded as being so arbitrary, and so disconnected from the real world we live in.[/QUOTE] Nah. It ain't over, and if you try to treat it as so, you are only fleeing. That commonly-associated-with-liberals way of "I can't even just why would ugh" isn't getting anyone anywhere. The situation still stands, and I refuse to let anyone else lead us to the same problems the Romans caused with their quest to congeal the Mediterranean like the tyrants they were. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49639962]They each had widely differing cultures and warred with each other often. It wasn't until several centuries past that they went from being independent city states that traded resources, people, and the like between them, they became larger, and with that joint together, became more powerful as well. Their diversity benefited them. They now had talented warriors from one city, skilled thinkers from another, mathematicians from another, and etc.[/QUOTE] Exactly. So, the "diversity" pushed by multiculturalists who want German rape by Muslims to cause strife between the two kinds are the villains here, no? Unless you're contradicting yourself, and proving you've learned nothing from this.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639888]Proving your inferiority by pretending to back out sarcastically, then coming back with "ahahaha". Real mature.[/QUOTE]I never claimed to be mature buddy, but hey, if that somehow is the antithesis of the perception you've had of me then I guess good for me right? [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639888]You're miscegenating them, and killing a race by one soul, when you do that.[/QUOTE]HAHA no, I'm not, Korean culture will not die and neither will my American one. Even if that were true then why don't you weep daily for all the cultures and societies that were too weak to endure? You're all about racial fitness, surely you're also about [I]racial worthiness[/I] aren't you? Or is this some weird "everyone deserves a chance" shit mixed up with casual racial theory? [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639888]You might not care, since you're a hedonist, searching for desire, and not caring for the world's well-being, but that shouldn't surprise me.[/QUOTE]You're implying though that I'm just in it for the sex, when clearly I've laid out a concrete reason for choosing Korean women to fraternize with in accordance to the theories you've so far been alluding to. Actually I stated quite plainly from both your way of thinking and a scientific standpoint the benefits of choosing somebody else to ensure genetic diversity. You are aware of what happens when a gene pool stagnates, right? If you're so concerned for the souls of races and the well-being of the human race why are you advocating deliberate isolation and stagnation of these gene pools? [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639888]Why would you think you have the right to go around screwing them, and their race, because you're "superior". Good job generalising my argument as if I were from Stormfront, which I absolutely abhor.[/QUOTE]Riiiight, right, so when I'm using the same bullshit you're spouting about about miscegenation I'm suddenly the bad guy? Hint: I'm not the motherfucker who brought up race-mixing like it's a sin against nature, [I][U]you[/U] did.[/I] Next time maybe you shouldn't spout such stupid bullshit if you don't want somebody to fucking go toe to toe with you and call you out on it. There's a cause and effect happening here and if you don't like it then don't do these things, it's quite simple. To actually refute your point though (nice job sidestepping my reply by the way) isn't the whole idea of race and culture based around their inherent worth? If my race isn't a superior specimen when held against the failed ones of the past then what is it? These are holes in your logic, DohEntertainmen. This is why you're full of shit. [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639888]Appeal to force. Good job arguing, when you're threatening to split my head open, because I hurt your feelings. Real "superior", there.[/QUOTE]Apparently you're incapable of understanding the word "if" and anything related to it. I said,[quote]if you really want to do something about my "miscegenation" I've given you fair fucking warning I will end you if you try something.[/quote] If. If YOU want to try SOMETHING (this implies violence upon my person) then I will REACT to protect myself. I said before I'm familiar with you and your ilk, people who think in racial terms rarely think without belligerence and while I'm on that fucking subject [B]my first interaction with you was in regards to your stupid, stupid statement about how threatening people with nuclear annihilation is not only good but also healthy for international relations.[/B] You have [I]absolutely[/I] no right to call anyone else violent at all. [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639888]And? That's history. Can't stop that from happening. All we can do is prevent it, and attempt to help their culture, which is currently being overrun by multiculturalists trying to identify as "half-cherokee".[/QUOTE]"that argument means nothing" That fucking means the USA has always been "a melting pot." What the fuck. [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49639888]I'm not white, though.[/QUOTE]Let me guess, afro-pride? You're pretty heavy on the segregation, the anti-miscegenation, you're all but admitting that the government would be a fuckton better if it had a lot more national socialism in it, (or perhaps that's some leftie Maoist bullshit I'm sensing?) and finally you've become immediately assmad, dropped the flowery bullshit in your posts, and are clearly agitated at this point. Maybe I was wrong in my guess that you're some fedora-wearing formerly Reddit shitposter white suburbanite, on the other hand you do sorta strike me as the kind of guy who actually believes ancient Africans were flying around in airplanes and shit. Really though at the end of the day does it really matter? I mean either way everything you've said has been completely fucking bonkers.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640028]Nah. It ain't over, and if you try to treat it as so, you are only fleeing. That commonly-associated-with-liberals way of "I can't even just why would ugh" isn't getting anyone anywhere. The situation still stands, and I refuse to let anyone else lead us to the same problems the Romans caused with their quest to congeal the Mediterranean like the tyrants they were. Exactly. So, the "diversity" pushed by multiculturalists who want German rape by Muslims to cause strife between the two kinds are the villains here, no? Unless you're contradicting yourself, and proving you've learned nothing from this.[/QUOTE] It goes directly against your concept of "They were just respecting each other". Those ancient states didn't respect each other, and their lives depended on not respecting each other. Expansion was always their goal. That means eating other cultures and becoming more like them in small ways over time. This is what you're railing against and this is life as we know it and it's not changing. All your railing on about "liberal this, liberal that" is fucking meaningless. No multiculturalist wants anyone raped. Saying that is outright lying, and demonizing of your opponents, like a strawman. you're so fucking full of it dude. you go from strawman to hyper emotional appeal and back again and all the while you act like everyone else is too stupid to fucking understand you. Please, get this, we understand you. We all disagree with you because the logical elements of your arguments do not line up with those of life.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49640056]I never claimed to be mature buddy, but hey, if that somehow is the antithesis of the perception you've had of me then I guess good for me right?[/QUOTE] Then there is no pleasing you. Mature yourself, then come back to me. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49640060]It goes directly against your concept of "They were just respecting each other". Those ancient states didn't respect each other, and their lives depended on not respecting each other. Expansion was always their goal. That means eating other cultures and becoming more like them in small ways over time.[/QUOTE] Yes, and this is human nature. If our culture desires to not be eaten by the others, then we should act accordingly, and at most, segregate so that we can survive as a nation, and not some "melting pot" which only serves in it's inferiority. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49640060]This is what you're railing against and this is life as we know it and it's not changing. All your railing on about "liberal this, liberal that" is fucking meaningless. [/QUOTE] That's not what the polls say. Personally, I'm sticking by my guns, both figuratively, and literally. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49640060]No multiculturalist wants anyone raped. Saying that is outright lying, and demonizing of your opponents, like a strawman. [/QUOTE] Except there is facts to prove that groups pushing this liberal mindset are part of a very-real Marxist-inspired conspiracy to make profit off of the turning of facts into feelings. Just look at the signing of the treaty of Versailles for a start to this corruption of western civilisation. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49640060]you're so fucking full of it dude. [/QUOTE] Rude. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49640060]you go from strawman to hyper emotional appeal and back again and all the while you act like everyone else is too stupid to fucking understand you. Please, get this, we understand you. We all disagree with you because the logical elements of your arguments do not line up with those of life.[/QUOTE] Saying "we all" means mass appeal fallacy. Remember I've said this, when you tell me you've not said anything of the slightest.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640114]Except there is facts to prove that groups pushing this liberal mindset are part of a very-real Marxist-inspired conspiracy to make profit off of the turning of facts into feelings.[/QUOTE] haha oh wow I'd like you to detail this to me with extensive citations for those facts.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640114]Then there is no pleasing you. Mature yourself, then come back to me. Yes, and this is human nature. If our culture desires to not be eaten by the others, then we should act accordingly, and at most, segregate so that we can survive as a nation, and not some "melting pot" which only serves in it's inferiority. That's not what the polls say. Personally, I'm sticking by my guns, both figuratively, and literally. Except there is facts to prove that groups pushing this liberal mindset are part of a very-real Marxist-inspired conspiracy to make profit off of the turning of facts into feelings. Just look at the signing of the treaty of Versailles for a start to this corruption of western civilisation. Rude. Saying "we all" means mass appeal fallacy. Remember I've said this, when you tell me you've not said anything of the slightest.[/QUOTE] No one loses as the result of multiculturalism except people like you, even though, you're only able to argue what you are as a result of multiculturalism giving you access to such things as this. You said "Of course the internet would exist without multiculturalism" except that's just simply not true. Neither would your computer. Your views are entirely disconnected from reality. That's why I say "we". Because us, who live in the real world, and have knowledge of real world history, know what you're selling is bullshit.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640114]Yes, and this is human nature. If our culture desires to not be eaten by the others, then we should act accordingly, and at most, segregate so that we can survive as a nation, and not some "melting pot" which only serves in it's inferiority.[/QUOTE] Hahahahaha holy shit dude, your culture isn't about to get eaten by the big bad foreigner. Look at it this way. A hundred years ago, US culture was very different from what it is now. Go back another hundred years? Yet more difference. Why the constant change? External and internal pressure, new ideas coming in from far away countries, new people arriving, setting up shop and adding their perspectives and cultures to our own. Imagine if we'd stagnated on the eve of our victory in the revolution. Can you imagine trying to face the problems of the modern world with the mindset and perspective of the inhabitants of the early United States? We'd be screwed six ways from Sunday. Hell, in my opinion, we're barely holding things together as is, and that's only with the contribution of every bright mind and brave soul we have on hand, nevermind what their race, creed, nationality etc. is. We need all hands on deck, and we need to adopt ideas and practices that work and drop the ones that don't, nevermind their origin. If we stagnate, we die. It's as simple as that.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640114]Then there is no pleasing you. Mature yourself, then come back to me.[/QUOTE]I THOUGHT I WAS A HEDONIST BRO Make up your fucking mind! Also, I like how you've ignored my whole post and picked [I]that one thing[/I] to reply to with some stupid throwaway comment. I was spot-on about the black power shit wasn't I? I'm going to guess that I was, and I'm pretty sure arguing using race logic is something you're not used to. Here's a tip: go back to what you're used to and antagonizing extremely far-left "progressives" and get banned again from whatever community you were at. There's a gap in your posts, so I'm guessing you came back here after you got your ass booted out for calling people race traitors one too many times. This is all conjecture though, I can't exactly prove any of that but I do have fairly good evidence that you're trying very, very hard to argue for segregation and perhaps some degree of ethnic cleansing giving your fervent support for Donald Trump. (not that he's for that, but his supporters sure as hell seem to be!) While I support your right to say these things and more, I also don't think you should be shielded from people like me who will gleefully tear into your arguments like a starving velociraptor and rip them into tiny pieces. Speaking of, [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640114]Yes, and this is human nature. If our culture desires to not be eaten by the others, then we should act accordingly, and at most, segregate so that we can survive as a nation, and not some "melting pot" which only serves in it's inferiority.[/QUOTE]Ah, so all the benefits and advantages we've enjoyed for centuries should just be thrown away and for what? Because "THE MUSLIMS!!!" are on the horizon? Fucking please, we have far too many crybaby turboliberals who would scream and cry foul if they were subjected to a real Islamic theocracy (that's what you fear, right?) to even allow that shit to pass. That's not even mentioning the entire spectrum of everyone somewhat left-leaning to the outrageously far-right that would stubbornly refuse to kowtow to such anti-American bullshit. Having a multicultural and diverse nation has allowed us to take the best and brightest talent from around the world and further ourselves. We were the leading nation in science, technology, medicine, and quality of life for [B]decades[/B] and we had achieved this after heavily committing to a world war (WWII would not have been won without our industrial might) and policing various conflicts throughout the early stages of the Cold War. We started to slow and stagnate with the rise of corporatism and the push to make this a "nation under G*D!" (can't take the LORD'S name in vane!!!) which was the antithesis of progress. Suddenly having strong profit margins was far easier if you fucked over the American population and throughout the 80's and 90's we slipped further and further into a cesspool of bullshit. Thanks Republicans. [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640114]Except there is facts to prove that groups pushing this liberal mindset are part of a very-real Marxist-inspired conspiracy to make profit off of the turning of facts into feelings. Just look at the signing of the treaty of Versailles for a start to this corruption of western civilisation.[/QUOTE] Your reaction, along with an alarming number of people, has been to blame "the liberals" for all your woes. As somebody able to step back and examine the problem with great scrutiny and without political bias (at least in the sense of the hyper-liberal or neocon dichotomy) I can say that they're not even the cause or the primary contribution to that problem. Sure, sure, some of the "politically correct" bullshit that's out now and trying to put safety bumpers and padding on everything to make a "safe space" society certainly is a [I]major[/I] concern to anyone with a fucking spine and some foresight. That doesn't have anything to do with the immediate problems we're facing and quite frankly the fact that you're mixing that with the economic woes we've suffered due to corruption in the financial sector and the government is preposterous. What complete horseshit, Wallstreet types being progressive? Give me a motherfucking break, if you had ever dealt with them you would've discovered that they're so far divorced from that mindset it would have made your head spin. Or rather it likely wouldn't because you seem to have the same understanding of society and politics as a fucking potato in a wet paper bag, or perhaps a mentally retarded kitten. My suggestion to you isn't so much to educate yourself but to instead drop the completely insane rhetoric that you're finding to be increasingly difficult to cling to. You're probably reading this by now trying to figure out [I]how liberal[/I] I am and having difficulty because I do lean slightly right on the political spectrum. I favor personal responsibility, logic, reason, and your appeals to emotion (that I swiftly batted down which is why you ignored my entire retort a few posts back) will not work on me at all. You clearly come up short when you try to argue on equal ground with HymanAbyss, elixwhitetail, and myself which is why you've largely abandoned explaining your positions and opted to instead call people rude and immature. Congratulations, that feeling you have in the pit of your stomach is the feeling of being proven so utterly fucking wrong that your view of the world has been altered.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;49640146]I'd like you to detail this to me with extensive citations for those facts.[/QUOTE] Again, the progressive movement, the treaty of Versailles, and the second war that followed were caused by nothing more than wealthy investors, who put their chips in at the right moments. Rockefellers, Rothschilds. You know where I'm going, and I don't give a damn if you don't believe me. [QUOTE=Psychokitten;49640255]Hahahahaha holy shit dude, your culture isn't about to get eaten by the big bad foreigner.[/QUOTE] I'd like proof of that, and not specific ignorance of what is currently happening to Germany involved in that. [QUOTE=Psychokitten;49640255]Look at it this way. A hundred years ago, US culture was very different from what it is now. Go back another hundred years? Yet more difference. Why the constant change? External and internal pressure, new ideas coming in from far away countries, new people arriving, setting up shop and adding their perspectives and cultures to our own.[/QUOTE] That wasn't a good thing, though. The addition of more "difference" only served to create bickering cultures within the country, something undeniably proven by various disputes between separate cultures, like those of California and Texas wishing to not be in the same union, following the same laws. The legalisation of homosexual marriage's reaction is an example of this, as many conservative states dislike the nationwide order. [QUOTE=Psychokitten;49640255]Imagine if we'd stagnated on the eve of our victory in the revolution. Can you imagine trying to face the problems of the modern world with the mindset and perspective of the inhabitants of the early United States? We'd be screwed six ways from Sunday.[/QUOTE] Except we were here, fair and square when the imperialists managing our work were straitening us for money to pay off debts to their wealthy investors. That had nothing to do with race, and so, has nothing to do with this. [QUOTE=Psychokitten;49640255]Hell, in my opinion, we're barely holding things together as is, and that's only with the contribution of every bright mind and brave soul we have on hand, nevermind what their race, creed, nationality etc. is. We need all hands on deck, and we need to adopt ideas and practices that work and drop the ones that don't, nevermind their origin. If we stagnate, we die. It's as simple as that.[/QUOTE] Except "we" does not include them. They have no reason to be here, and not pay taxes, nor do we have a reason to accept them, so we can have food we could buy off them, alone. Citizenship does not equate to migration. That is how Rome was divided among the Foederati. Something no nation wants to live through. [QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49640265]I THOUGHT I WAS A HEDONIST BRO[/QUOTE] Hedonists are immature.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640314] Hedonists are immature.[/QUOTE] A mature person would show respect for someone who went to such lengths to explain his own view to you in such articulate terms.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640314]Again, the progressive movement, the treaty of Versailles, and the second war that followed were caused by nothing more than wealthy investors, who put their chips in at the right moments. Rockefellers, Rothschilds. You know where I'm going, and I don't give a damn if you don't believe me.[/QUOTE] That explanation's about as substantive as the fart I just let out. Try again. You offered me facts and then you spouted a bunch of vague implications. I want citations. Nut up or go home.
I have literally no respect for anyone who plans to vote Trump in the general election. They don't deserve respect, they deserve derision (and maybe an STD or two while we're at it).
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640314]That wasn't a good thing, though. The addition of more "difference" only served to create bickering cultures within the country, something undeniably proven by various disputes between separate cultures, like those of California and Texas wishing to not be in the same union, following the same laws. The legalisation of homosexual marriage's reaction is an example of this, as many conservative states dislike the nationwide order.[/quote] Oh boo hoo. Internal tensions. Guess what, any country with more than one or two unique cultures residing in its borders is going to have that; look at the UK and Scotland. Does that mean they and we should break apart? Hell no. Scotland would be poor as fuck, and large parts of the US would devolve into something approaching third world nations if they were no longer a part of the union. [quote]Except we were here, fair and square when the imperialists managing our work were straitening us for money to pay off debts to their wealthy investors. That had nothing to do with race, and so, has nothing to do with this.[/quote] Good job. You completely missed the point of what I said. [quote]Except "we" does not include them. They have no reason to be here, and not pay taxes, nor do we have a reason to accept them, so we can have food we could buy off them, alone. Citizenship does not equate to migration. That is how Rome was divided among the Foederati. Something no nation wants to live through.[/QUOTE] Which "them" are we referring to? If you're talking about illegal immigrants, then eh. On the one hand, yeah, there are laws to follow, we have them for a reason. On the other hand, the immigration system in this country is bullshit. We need labor, they need jobs. What's the damn problem? Let them in, let them work. Let them bring back a positive impression of our country and a few ideas for improving their own country with them if they return home. If they chose to stay? Why not? If they genuinely have something to contribute to society, if they're willing to work hard and pay their taxes like the rest of us, I see no reason they shouldn't be allowed citizenship.
[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640314]Hedonists are immature.[/QUOTE]Pot, kettle, black, etc At least I have the goddamn common fucking courtesy to reply to your posts in full. You're avoiding me now, but you're still posting hoping that you can salvage something from this trainwreck by going after what Psychokitten wrote. Honestly as lovely as it is to have my ego so tenderly stroked by your fear and reluctance to try and defend yourself from my rather casual observations I do have to admit I feel offended on behalf of Psychokitten. What, do you consider him to be a complete fucking idiot, so much so that you can peddle your argument onto him in the hopes of bashing your vapid, uninformed bullshit into his skull? That's ridiculous, he seems like a perfectly sane and intelligent person just like everyone else in this thread with the exception of you. [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640314]Again, the progressive movement, the treaty of Versailles, and the second war that followed were caused by nothing more than wealthy investors, who put their chips in at the right moments. Rockefellers, Rothschilds. You know where I'm going, and I don't give a damn if you don't believe me.[/QUOTE]So ardent capitalists, who would be only harmed by the anti-corporatism sentiment a progressive moment for equal rights and fairness in society would bring, somehow funded and advanced "the progressive movement" in this country? Haha, what a load of shit. Nobody believes you because it's stupid, it doesn't make any sense, why would this alleged conspiracy even exist when it would just lead to their own destruction? Hell, the premise of rich people giving to charity for brownie points with society stems precisely from harsh criticism of having boatloads of money while people are starving in the streets, it's essentially forced redistribution of wealth through public shame. One could argue that's Adam Smith's invisible hand, a core tenet of capitalist philosophy, working outside of the actual mercantile aspect of a capitalist society and correcting economic disparity. If anything what you're talking about is the result of an inherently anti-left and anti-Marxist system at work. You won't see this though, you'll probably try to connect some bullshit commie conspiracy in with how the Jews are controlling society so you can't call people faggots anymore. [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640314]That wasn't a good thing, though.[/QUOTE]Whaaaat? Evolution of society is a bad thing? Oh of course, because, [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640314]The addition of more "difference" only served to create bickering cultures within the country, something undeniably proven by various disputes between separate cultures, like those of California and Texas wishing to not be in the same union, following the same laws. The legalisation of homosexual marriage's reaction is an example of this, as many conservative states dislike the nationwide order.[/QUOTE]We're back to this narrative. Either you come clean and admit certain cultures (presumably rooted in race given your previous statements) are more worthy than, and thus "superior" to, other cultures or you admit your entire fucking premise is complete horseshit. These cultures exist to change and adapt to the world or they die and are assimilated by other cultures, you can bitch and moan about this all you like but the fact remains this is how the world works. You're trying to artificially prune cultures to survive in a world where such behavior has only caused an explosion of widespread chaos and the demise of societies and empires. You've gone on and on about ancient Rome but that's an excellent example of the perils of trying to make a culture conform to your will, specifically the rebels in Judea and elsewhere who were a constant pain in Rome's side. Meanwhile after Harald Fairhair conquered all of Norway he left the various conquered jarldoms function by themselves and Norway was stronger for it. Norwegian culture changed throughout the years and adapted to the changing political and economic conditions of the time. Rome could not adapt so Rome fell, if anything Rome was artificially supported for the better part of a century and a half precisely because it was so multicultural. What a completely stupid example of the "woes of multiculturalism." Please, if anything you should have pointed to Yugoslavia but I suppose that would require you to actually know what the fuck you were on about anyway. That said, there is something to be said for having an extremely divided population rife with unrest and strife which would be exacerbated by having several ethnic groups that despised each other and have had centuries to develop deep-seated hatred as in Yugoslavia. Really though you'd have to stretch the current problems in American society really, [U]really[/U] far to actually compare it to the social issues found in the Balkans; issues so great it ended in UN occupation to stop all the genocide from happening. [QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49640314]Except "we" does not include them. They have no reason to be here, and not pay taxes, nor do we have a reason to accept them, so we can have food we could buy off them, alone.[/QUOTE]Who's "them" anyway? Why don't they belong here? Who doesn't pay taxes? Fucking cite some sources or admit you're talking out of your ass about things you maybe barely understand. Not once have any of your wild assertions (which go against [B]all[/B] common sense and conventional wisdom by the way) have been backed up by a single source or anything resembling fact.
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