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[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42643090]While that's true, this can still be stupid, contrived artwork that nobody likes.
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The term "art" isn't like a seal of quality, it has no inherent value
I'm gay, and without being stuck up, I'm sort of offended that he's choosing to use homosexuality for art. Sex should be something you share with someone you love, not to be shown off for a good grade.
Should set up a blank canvas as well so that frisky watchers can jizz onto it. Call it "The Aftermatch" and sell it for a few trillions.
[QUOTE=James xX;42644847]Sex should be something you share with someone you love, not to be shown off for a good grade.[/QUOTE]
pretty sure this is the whole reason he's doing it in public
[QUOTE=James xX;42644847]I'm gay, and without being stuck up, I'm sort of offended that he's choosing to use homosexuality for art. Sex should be something you share with someone you love, not to be shown off for a good grade.[/QUOTE]
Sorry. I guess I shouldn't show off sunsets as art, because they're meant to be shared with someone I love.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;42645634]Sorry. I guess I shouldn't show off sunsets as art, because they're meant to be shared with someone I love.[/QUOTE]
Because Sunsets = Sex
[QUOTE=James xX;42644847]I'm gay, and without being stuck up, I'm sort of offended that he's choosing to use homosexuality for art. Sex should be something you share with someone you love, not to be shown off for a good grade.[/QUOTE]
Does gay porn upset you as well?
Not saying you're wrong if it does, but if it doesn't there's a bit of hypocrisy here
I think this might stimulate some more things besides interesting debate.
[QUOTE=Stents*;42645657]Because Sunsets = Sex[/QUOTE]
Sunsets are natural beauty.
Sex is natural beauty.
I don't really see a divide here. Both of them are emotionally evocative things traditionally stated by culture to be shared with a partner for the purpose of romantic exchange.
Honestly, I don't see why people think sex is so sacred and sanctified. It's pretty disgusting (just like our bodies) when you get to the nuts and bolts of it.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42642833]Porn is now considered art?[/QUOTE]
In this day and age, literally anything could be considered art.
See that dented Pepsi can on the sidewalk? It's not trash, it's [I]~art.~[/I]
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;42642887]This is the type where critics go catch-22 on you, right?
You think it's bad because you don't understand what it is and when you ask what it means, they'll say it's too complex for you to understand?[/QUOTE]"It's too complex/deep/meaningful/insightful for you to understand" is usually just a way of saying, "I either do not understand it, or my interpretation sounds dumb even in my own head and I don't want to explain myself." Mechanical engineers, astrophysicists, doctors, marine biologists, and other people who have a big, beefy degree (or doctorate!) deal in complex shit. All of them can at least provide a simple explanation of something in their field. Hell, even famous artists that can be identified with by millions and millions of people can explain their art. Yet, the person that uses that cheap cop-out to try and seize some imaginative seniority over people can't or won't, which either means they're an asshole or they're just as ignorant.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;42645733]In this day and age, literally anything could be considered art.
See that dented Pepsi can on the sidewalk? It's not trash, it's [I]~art.~[/I][/QUOTE]
No.
Do you think when Picasso, or Van Goghs first works were made they were accepted as "art"? no they were trashed as being terrible
and that example isn't art, that's an object on the side of the road. art requires the decision of an artist to put something there. if that dented can was placed there in a specific manner so people could experience it, yes, it would technically fall under art no matter how much you think it's stupid.
art is how you feel, if you want to be a conformist who wants the textbook stuff, please don't bother discussing anything.
It's like the folk who present that any music that isn't structurally sound, aren't respectable as pieces.
[QUOTE=James xX;42644847]I'm gay, and without being stuck up, I'm sort of offended that he's choosing to use homosexuality for art. Sex should be something you share with someone you love, not to be shown off for a good grade.[/QUOTE]
you're offended because someone has different views on sex?
plenty of people see sex as practically nothing. like having a beer with a mate
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[QUOTE=AK'z;42645879]art is how you feel, if you want to be a conformist who wants the textbook stuff, please don't bother discussing anything.
It's like the folk who present that any music that isn't structurally sound, aren't respectable as pieces.[/QUOTE]
some people can be extraordinarily boring
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;42645890]
some people can be extraordinarily boring[/QUOTE]
people can be just as annoyed about simplistic art pieces, even though they still conform to the textbook standards..
In this day and age, people need to get with it when it comes to anything people express that isn't politically or socially significant.
Fuck any god damn thing these days can be passed off as art.
Pretentious and in my opinion just plain stupid.
"But, but, but.... its art!!!"
No its fucking not.
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;42646068]Fuck any god damn thing these days can be passed off as art.
Pretentious and in my opinion just plain stupid.
"But, but, but.... its art!!!"
No its fucking not.[/QUOTE]
prime example of these boring people i mentioned
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you are literally spitting in the face of solid, proven dictionary and social definition.
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;42646068]Fuck any god damn thing these days[/QUOTE]
back in what day was it any different?
Art is a display of artistic skill
Geting your ass fucked isnt skillful.
God this is what im talking about by pretentious kids thinking "anything" qualifies as art.
Edit:
Just for you pretentious kids who think anything qualifies as art, please read the very definition via Merriam Webster Dictionary on the discriptive definition of "ART"
[url]http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art[/url]
2art noun \ˈärt\
: something that is created with [B]imagination and skill[/B] and that is beautiful or that expresses important ideas or feelings
: works created by artists : paintings, sculptures, etc., that are created to be beautiful or to express important ideas or feelings
: the methods and [B]skills[/B] used for painting, sculpting, drawing, etc.
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;42646154]Art is a display of artistic skill
Geting your ass fucked isnt skillful.
God this is what im talking about by pretentious kids thinking "anything" qualifies as art.
Edit:
Just for you pretentious kids who think anything qualifies as art, please read the very definition via Merriam Webster Dictionary on the discriptive definition of "ART"
[url]http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art[/url]
2art noun \ˈärt\
: something that is created with [B]imagination and skill[/B] and that is beautiful or that expresses important ideas or feelings
: works created by artists : paintings, sculptures, etc., that are created to be beautiful or to express important ideas or feelings
: the methods and [B]skills[/B] used for painting, sculpting, drawing, etc.[/QUOTE]
I don't care for this actual story, but you've made no point at all. Which aspect of life isn't a skill anyway?
sex is easily an act that one can be skillful at, therefore it is a "skill".
[QUOTE=Zeke129;42645672]Does gay porn upset you as well?
Not saying you're wrong if it does, but if it doesn't there's a bit of hypocrisy here[/QUOTE]
Because porn stars get grades. Right.
You guys are still missing the point.
If this guy is a virgin there is no "skill" in the equation whatsoever.
Furthermore, I'd just like to add, that being skillful at sex, and creating an actual art form, ie. producing music, painting a picture, sketching, photography, None of them are even remotely the same genre of 'skill'.
Face it, unless you have broken pelvises then thrusting back and forth DOES NOT TaKE SKILL.
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;42646068]Fuck any god damn thing these days can be passed off as art.
Pretentious and in my opinion just plain stupid.
"But, but, but.... its art!!!"
No its fucking not.[/QUOTE]
the fact that you are having a visceral and emotional reaction to this piece being called art only further justifies calling it art
sorry
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;42646350]You guys are still missing the point.
If this guy is a virgin there is no "skill" in the equation whatsoever.[/QUOTE]
read your own post:
[quote=Dibbs]expresses ideas or feelings[/quote]
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;42646350]You guys are still missing the point.
If this guy is a virgin there is no "skill" in the equation whatsoever.
Furthermore, I'd just like to add, that being skillful at sex, and creating an actual art form, ie. producing music, painting a picture, sketching, photography, None of them are even remotely the same genre of 'skill'.
Face it, unless you have broken pelvises then thrusting back and forth DOES NOT TaKE SKILL.[/QUOTE]
art doesn't require skill to be good. art which requires an immense amount of skill can still be garbage
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;42646350]You guys are still missing the point.
If this guy is a virgin there is no "skill" in the equation whatsoever.
Furthermore, I'd just like to add, that being skillful at sex, and creating an actual art form, ie. producing music, painting a picture, sketching, photography, None of them are even remotely the same genre of 'skill'.
Face it, unless you have broken pelvises then thrusting back and forth DOES NOT TaKE SKILL.[/QUOTE]
what do you define as skill
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;42646350]You guys are still missing the point.
If this guy is a virgin there is no "skill" in the equation whatsoever.
Furthermore, I'd just like to add, that being skillful at sex, and creating an actual art form, ie. producing music, painting a picture, sketching, photography, None of them are even remotely the same genre of 'skill'.
Face it, unless you have broken pelvises then thrusting back and forth DOES NOT TaKE SKILL.[/QUOTE]
well either way you put it you're the one who's missing the point of a lot of this I think.
[QUOTE=Quq;42646359]the fact that you are having a visceral and emotional reaction to this piece being called art only further justifies calling it art
sorry[/QUOTE]
not having a visceral or emotional reaction to this 'piece'
just displaying facts in a logic manner and in a descriptive manner.
AK's, you can take any two words out of my post and change the context and meaning of them to support your argument. However if you read the whole sentence like a big boy, it says something different.
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