• Rick Perry defends Marines who urinated on dead bodies
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[QUOTE=Phaselancer;34237281]Apparently there is such a thing as a republican troll. [url]http://nation.foxnews.com/rick-perry/2012/01/15/rick-perry-white-house-handling-marine-video-over-top[/url] "Why on earth is this jerk still running?" "get a life libtard...........:)>"[/QUOTE] I don't think it counts as trolling when they raise a valid point.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;34237320]I don't think it counts as trolling when they raise a valid point.[/QUOTE] The valid point of 'get a life libtard'?
Amazing Atheist said it best: Might as well remove the first syllable and just call his campaign a 'pain'.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34237389]The valid point of 'get a life libtard'?[/QUOTE] "why on earth is this jerk still running" is obviously the troll, being the only logical comment.
Rick Perry: Everything wrong with America in one disgusting person.
[QUOTE=Stradbong;34237457]-snip-[/QUOTE] It's cool.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;34237462]Look one post above you.[/QUOTE] Sorry, removing comment.
Thanks Rick, I will now use your moral compass to declare that killing someone and taking a piss on them is OK. I'll be back in a jiffy, I have a lot of water to drink to get ready for all the pissing.
[quote]“Obviously, 18, 19-year-olds make stupid mistakes all too often,”[/quote] Yeah and what the fuck kind of a mistake is that? It's insulting, offensive and no matter the moron, they knew what they were doing very well and they deserve to prosecuted.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;34237164]how? I'm pretty sure it can be attributed to the entire "people aren't perfect" thing, and "bad people will slip through the cracks"[/QUOTE] So, it won't work because you say so. Not very convincing!
Oh, Rick Perry. I could roll my eyes out.
[QUOTE=~Myst;34237412]Amazing Atheist said it best: Might as well remove the first syllable and just call his campaign a 'pain'.[/QUOTE] Thanks for reinforcing my desire to punch the AMazing Atheist in his stupid unfunny face
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;34236995]the only effective solutions will be decreasing troop numbers and increasing troop quality, essentially making it a SOF war, what should have happened since the start. Violations like this will always happen when large amounts of conventional troops are deployed.[/QUOTE] You've done this type of evidence-less speculation elsewhere; [QUOTE=trotskygrad;34237092] Terrain doesn't matter much more when it comes to SEAD. It matters a lot more with ground warfare, probably much of which won't be happening if the US fully leverages it's air assets. Usually we can say we've taken a country once we've reached the capital and taken over the government. and please sauce said night missions, I remember Iraq's air force being completely obliterated, so bad that we didn't even need to mine their runways.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Squad;34236167]If I could ultra disagree with your post I would click the button 4 million times. This is blatantly untrue. One thing I learned about going through college is that college kids are fucking idiots.[/QUOTE] How is that?
[QUOTE=Squad;34236167]If I could ultra disagree with your post I would click the button 4 million times. This is blatantly untrue. One thing I learned about going through college is that college kids are fucking idiots.[/QUOTE] "My anecdotal experience has taught me that all college students are idiots!"
[QUOTE=TH89;34237047]You know this how exactly? Keep in mind that "it always has" is not really an answer since no military has made a serious and concerted effort to address this problem before.[/QUOTE] The problem is that it doesn't matter how much enforcement mechanisms you have, and how good you are, all you need is one incident to shit all your campaign, which is hard enough when you're the invading force with a different ideology and widespread racism surgical strikes by highly trained foreign personnel in conjunction with local policing efforts (which range anywhere from ANA deployment, ANP patrols and civilian involvement - or even refusal of civilians to assist hostile forces) is far more effective than "MORE TROOPS"
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34237959]"My anecdotal experience has taught me that all college students are idiots!"[/QUOTE] Him stating that they are idiots is no more qualified of a statement than saying they are smart.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;34237994]Him stating that they are idiots is no more qualified of a statement than saying they are smart.[/QUOTE] How about "Because they have undergone four more years of formal education I believe that they would be smarter than those who have not, on average" [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] The broad and generally accepted assumption is that longer formal schooling makes one more intelligent.
[QUOTE=Contag;34238016]How about "Because they have undergone four more years of formal education I believe that they would be smarter than those who have not, on average" [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] The broad and generally accepted assumption is that longer formal schooling makes one more intelligent.[/QUOTE] These aren't graduates he was talking about though. These are students. Besides, it's worth remembering that even Bush went to an Ivy League school.
[QUOTE=Contag;34237970]The problem is that it doesn't matter how much enforcement mechanisms you have, and how good you are, all you need is one incident to shit all your campaign, which is hard enough when you're the invading force with a different ideology and widespread racism[/QUOTE] I don't know, hearing news reports of bad shit happening isn't great, but it's nothing compared to people's personal experiences with soldiers. If a family has regular positive interactions with a group of soldiers in their community, that's probably going to weigh a lot more than a bad news report. If said family has negative, abusive experiences with the soldiers in their community, this is going to reinforce what they already believe. And that's kind of the problem--for any one of these incidents that sees the news, there's probably dozens that the Afghans would be happy to tell people about. Were that it was just a few bad apples ruining it for everybody, it would be an isolated tragedy, but I don't think it would undermine operations in the same way that widespread abuse does. I'm not trying to say that, you know, not-being-a-horrible-person-training for soldiers would absolutely 100% work definitely, I'm saying that making a serious attempt at it should be a high priority given the strategies the US is trying to employ. I dunno why people are so quick to argue for not even bothering to try.
[QUOTE=TH89;34238068]I don't know, hearing news reports of bad shit happening isn't great, but it's nothing compared to people's personal experiences with soldiers. If a family has regular positive interactions with a group of soldiers in their community, that's probably going to weigh a lot more than a bad news report. If said family has negative, abusive experiences with the soldiers in their community, this is going to reinforce what they already believe. And that's kind of the problem--for any one of these incidents that sees the news, there's probably dozens that the Afghans would be happy to tell people about. [B]Were that it was just a few bad apples ruining it for everybody, it would be an isolated tragedy, but I don't think it would undermine operations in the same way that widespread abuse does.[/B][/QUOTE] the thing is, if it's being reported it's probably widespread enough that it [I]does[/I] have a significant effect and even if it isn't widespread, if it's plausible it's just as bad
[QUOTE=Contag;34238096]the thing is, if it's being reported it's probably widespread enough that it [I]does[/I] have a significant effect[/QUOTE] I know, that's why I'm saying it should be stopped :I
I'm pretty sure watching foreign soldiers who speak a foreign language and come from the other side of the world walking down the street isn't going to engender too much support [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=TH89;34238103]I know, that's why I'm saying it should be stopped :I[/QUOTE] oh Sorry!
[QUOTE=Contag;34238016]How about "Because they have undergone four more years of formal education I believe that they would be smarter than those who have not, on average" [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] The broad and generally accepted assumption is that longer formal schooling makes one more intelligent.[/QUOTE] No, it makes you more educated. Intelligence is totally different, you can have a PhD and still be stupid (and I have anecdotal evidence to prove this!!!!) e - To be clear, I know a lot of people use words like "smart" to describe people who are really knowledgeable about one thing or another, but I think it's dangerous to conflate education with intelligence because education tends to correlate with money and then you end up thinking that rich people are smart and poor people are dumb which leads to all sorts of bad stuff. :V
[QUOTE=TH89;34238141]No, it makes you more educated. Intelligence is totally different, you can have a PhD and still be stupid (and I have anecdotal evidence to prove this!!!!)[/QUOTE] We're talking on average, though, and education is part of many criteria for intelligence (which is so fluid and barely understood and disputed)
I guess after that "Faith" video he figured his reputation can't get any worse and now he's just having fun being a stupid fuck.
He's going to need some powertools to dig himself deeper soon.
Would be hilarious if it turns out those Marines were gay.
[QUOTE=Contag;34238169]We're talking on average, though, and education is part of many criteria for intelligence (which is so fluid and barely understood and disputed)[/QUOTE] Anything external influence on, say, an IQ score that's available to some people and not others should absolutely not be counted in a general measure of intelligence. Otherwise that scale's not really useful for that purpose.
Oh wow. Rick Perry just keeps proving that he's some type of retard.
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