• The assassination attempt of the Turkish minority leader in Bulgaria (VIDEO)
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So last year a bomb exploded and killed jewish tourists, now this. The fuck's up with Bulgaria
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39279979]Yeah back over 110 years ago Kinda made them look even worse there.[/QUOTE] Yes, we're actually barbarians. I was just on my way to kill an ox to make myself new boots, but I saw your post and decided to respond first.
HOLY SHIT that video was crazy justice was served for that douchebag
[QUOTE=Stopper;39280031]Yes, we're actually barbarians. I was just on my way to kill an ox to make myself new boots, but I saw your post and decided to respond first.[/QUOTE] Well just like how there are terrible people in every country, there are also the much higher amount of good people, though I'm simply questioning why officials in an important role are of the less savory character.
[QUOTE=Stopper;39277599][img]http://www.dnevnik.bg/shimg/zx450y250_1987084.jpg[/img] Photo of the guy. He had the pistol (gas) and two knives on him when he was searched.[/QUOTE] Wow, Obama kicked his ass.
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;39279998]So last year a bomb exploded and killed jewish tourists, now this. The fuck's up with Bulgaria[/QUOTE] That was quite possibly the only terrorist attack of any sort we've had since 1985 and this is a failed assassination attempt. Yeah, what's up with us? Actually, the last politician killed here that I remember about was in 2005 and he was killed because he stepped on the mafia's toes. (Which is pretty much the only reason anyone prominent might be killed for)
[QUOTE=Stopper;39277574]Oh, and some news from local sources: -The assailant is 25, a student in the Sofia Technical University. He entered with a badge from the Student rights movement. -Dogan will in all probability step down from his post as the leader of DPS and be replaced by Lutvie Messan. -The assailant is a gypsy from turkish descent (or at least name) - Oktai Enimehmedov. -He's from Bourgas and has a dossier - he has been involved in some petty crimes. -He was badly hurt after being wrestled down by security and lost consciousness.[/QUOTE] God damn gypsies can't do anything right! [sp]Post to not be taken seriously[/sp]
I'd like to point out that this is the same format of stuff that started WW1, the assassination of some important guy in a different country, then the resulting wars pulled people in due to ally-ships with other countries. Though I don't think that woulda happened with these countries
Holy fuck that was close he must have used a shitty gun
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39280181]I'd like to point out that this is the same format of stuff that started WW1, the assassination of some important guy in a different country, then the resulting wars pulled people in due to ally-ships with other countries. Though I don't think that woulda happened with these countries[/QUOTE] Comparing the murder of the heir apparent of the Austrian Empire (which wasn't the sole, nor main reason WWI started) to the attempted assassination of a party leader 100 years later? You really have no clue what you're talking about, do you?
[QUOTE=Coffee;39279422]The Czech President's pretty funny tbh [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uToMvq3yw2A[/media][/QUOTE] Look at that smug grin. Disgusting.
[QUOTE=ziggy42;39280213]Holy fuck that was close he must have used a shitty gun[/QUOTE] A DIY converted gas pistol/converted gas pistol round, from what I saw. And yes - these are prone to jamming, so I'm not surprised.
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39279979]Yeah back over 110 years ago Kinda made them look even worse there.[/QUOTE] And there hasn't been a similar situation since in the United States. Doesn't mean similar shit wouldn't happen today. Writing them off as "savages" as a bullshit, desperate excuse. EDIT: and upon reading further, similar incidents occurred to Thomas Hagan, Arthur Bremer & John Hinckley.
[QUOTE=Stopper;39280229]Comparing the murder of the heir apparent of the Austrian Empire (which wasn't the sole, nor main reason WWI started) to the attempted assassination of a party leader 100 years later? You really have no clue what you're talking about, do you?[/QUOTE] Heir apparent of Austrian Empire, so someone who was in line to become leader Party leader of a party that would run for president of the country, possibly in line to become leader Yeah definitely no difference. You're kidding right? [editline]19th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Kinversulath;39280261]And there hasn't been a similar situation since in the United States. Doesn't mean similar shit wouldn't happen today. Writing them off as "savages" as a bullshit, desperate excuse.[/QUOTE] Assassination of Robert Kennedy, they had Sirhan Sirhan with them, did they beat him up? [editline]19th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Kinversulath;39280261]And there hasn't been a similar situation since in the United States. Doesn't mean similar shit wouldn't happen today. Writing them off as "savages" as a bullshit, desperate excuse. EDIT: and upon reading further, similar incidents occurred to Thomas Hagan, Arthur Bremer & John Hinckley.[/QUOTE] Arthur: was slightly injured before the police seized him. So knee-jerk reaction vs facilitated group beating. [editline]19th January 2013[/editline] The problem wasn't even that they beat him up, it was that it went on for so long without the police or whatever coming to stop it.
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39280352]Heir apparent of Austrian Empire, so someone who was in line to become leader Party leader of a party that would run for president of the country, possibly in line to become leader Yeah definitely no difference. You're kidding right?[/QUOTE] You seem to be under the impression that: a) The president does the same as the president of the USA. b) It's 1914 c) Said party currently holds 38 parliament seats compared to the 116 of the leading party and the 50 of the second party. Also, you might want to note that the would-be assassin is Bulgarian and not a foreigner. Europe is also quite stable right now unlike it was a century ago. The comparison is ridiculous and I regret wasting my time explaining this.
So how come he failed to kill him?
[QUOTE=Stopper;39280434]You seem to be under the impression that: a) The president does the same as the president of the USA. b) It's 1914 c) Said party currently holds 38 parliament seats compared to the 116 of the leading party and the 50 of the second party. Also, you might want to note that the would-be assassin is Bulgarian and not a foreigner. Europe is also quite stable right now unlike it was a century ago. The comparison is ridiculous and I regret wasting my time explaining this.[/QUOTE] I would indeed assume the president of one country has a similar role to the president of another. You are in fact correct in assuming that I don't understand the political system of Bulgaria, why the fuck would I, or anyone care? I was simply drawing comparisons to the format, I even said that didn't I? I made sure to make it seem that I wasn't comparing them very closely, but only the format, but you seem to throw logic and rationality to the wind when you get the chance to flame someone for misunderstanding your tiny country.
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39280352]Arthur: was slightly injured before the police seized him. So knee-jerk reaction vs facilitated group beating. [editline]19th January 2013[/editline] The problem wasn't even that they beat him up, it was that it went on for so long without the police or whatever coming to stop it.[/QUOTE] So how was this not a knee-jerk reaction? At what point did those men agree that should someone attempt to shoot the party leader, they would collectively beat him?
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39280352] The problem wasn't even that they beat him up, it was that it went on for so long without the police or whatever coming to stop it.[/QUOTE] What "police or whatever"? This is a conference, not a presidential visit. These happen literally every couple of days. The bodyguards tackled the guy and then tried to stop the rest of the crowd from hitting him. The only cops likely present would've been on the entrance of the NDK (which is the largest conference center in Eastern Europe, mind you) and not in the conference room . The whole thing happened in a minute. Who exactly do you expect to intervene?
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;39280468]So how was this not a knee-jerk reaction? At what point did those men agree that should someone attempt to shoot the party leader, they would collectively beat him?[/QUOTE] I say it was facilitated because they got to go on for so long without any of the official looking guys going "guys stop just hold him down and wait". If it was a knee jerk reaction it would be 1 or 2 guys going at him, but it was everyone in the group, no one trying to stop them. [editline]19th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Stopper;39280498]What "police or whatever"? This is a conference, not a presidential visit. These happen literally every couple of days. The bodyguards tackled the guy and then tried to stop the rest of the crowd from hitting him. The only cops likely present would've been on the entrance of the NDK (which is the largest conference center in Eastern Europe, mind you) and not in the conference room . The whole thing happened in a minute. Who exactly do you expect to intervene?[/QUOTE] The cops that should be there in case anything ever goes wrong? We do that here at our presidential meetings, for people nominated and everything.
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39280465]I would indeed assume the president of one country has a similar role to the president of another. You are in fact correct in assuming that I don't understand the political system of Bulgaria, why the fuck would I, or anyone care? I was simply drawing comparisons to the format, I even said that didn't I? I made sure to make it seem that I wasn't comparing them very closely, but only the format, but you seem to throw logic and rationality to the wind when you get the chance to flame someone for misunderstanding your tiny country.[/QUOTE] If you don't know or care, then why argue in the first place? Our political system is similar to most of Europe's - the president is a representative of the nation and the supreme army commander. Your ignorance doesn't excuse your demeanor. What "format"? The situations aren't comparable in the first place and I explained to you why. I fail to see where I "threw logic and rationality to the wind" or where I flamed you, other than calling you out on your ignorance.
[QUOTE=Stopper;39280564]If you don't know or care, then why argue in the first place? Our political system is similar to most of Europe's - the president is a representative of the nation and the supreme army commander. Your ignorance doesn't excuse your demeanor. What "format"? The situations aren't comparable in the first place and I explained to you why. I fail to see where I "threw logic and rationality to the wind" or where I flamed you, other than calling you out on your ignorance.[/QUOTE] They are very comparable, and it's funny and sad you don't see it, and like I said, throwing logic and rationality to the wind for your country. If the president guy had died the situation woulda been as follows President guy gets killed in other country WW1 was started by President guy gets killed in other country I said format, they aren't exactly alike, they aren't even a notable amount alike, I was simply noting that it was an interesting turn of events that reminded me of WW1's thing.
Ahmed Dogan has some serious reflexes [IMG]http://24.media.tumblr.com/83d0adfbf645ef9998bce6cd898b23d2/tumblr_mgvxsdpfHX1qam6r5o2_500.gif[/IMG]
Get your glocks today
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39280499]The cops that should be there in case anything ever goes wrong? We do that here at our presidential meetings, for people nominated and everything.[/QUOTE] Bulgaria isn't America. There isn't the expectation that anything will go wrong. Then again, you've already stated that you don't care about how the Bulgarian system works, so arguing this point is a waste of time. [QUOTE=ducklingqt;39280597][B]They are very comparable, and it's funny and sad you don't see it, and like I said, throwing logic and rationality to the wind for your country.[/B] If the president guy had died the situation woulda been as follows President guy gets killed in other country WW1 was started by President guy gets killed in other country I said format, [B]they aren't exactly alike, they aren't even a notable amount alike,[/B] I was simply noting that it was an interesting turn of events that reminded me of WW1's thing.[/QUOTE] Yeah, okay. [QUOTE=ducklingqt;39280638]Yep, especially since I was merely comparing the basic format, not the exact events, you guys need help reading or something lol[/QUOTE] Hey, some foreign nationals got killed in Algeria today. That's kind of like WWII isn't it?
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;39280605]Bulgaria isn't America. There isn't the expectation that anything will go wrong. Then again, you've already stated that you don't care about how the Bulgarian system works, so arguing this point is a waste of time.[/QUOTE] Yep, especially since I was merely comparing the basic format, not the exact events, you guys need help reading or something lol
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39280499] The cops that should be there in case anything ever goes wrong? We do that here at our presidential meetings, for people nominated and everything.[/QUOTE] Again, this isn't a presidential visit. It's a political conference. Again, these things happen practically every week. This isn't where "here" is for you. [I]Here[/I], you don't expect anyone to be killed in such a public place or [I]at all[/I], which is why there is little security other than the personal bodyguards, unlike where you live (presumably the USA). I imagine that will change a bit now, but there is literally no need for security, because there's no risk.
[QUOTE=Stopper;39280695]Again, this isn't a presidential visit. It's a political conference. Again, these things happen practically every week. This isn't where "here" is for you. [I]Here[/I], you don't expect anyone to be killed in such a public place or [I]at all[/I], which is why there is little security other than the personal bodyguards, unlike where you live (presumably the USA). I imagine that will change a bit now, but there is literally no need for security, because there's no risk.[/QUOTE] Yeah the USA is such a war zone, we have precautions against even the very unlikely therefore we are dangerous [editline]19th January 2013[/editline] -snip- no point in being an asshole
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39280717]Yeah the USA is such a war zone, we have precautions against even the very unlikely therefore we are dangerous [editline]19th January 2013[/editline] how do i laugh at you harder, god damn[/QUOTE] Are you literally incapable of absorbing text? Your government has a whole agency dedicated to ensuring the safety of politicians in your country and I never said that makes your [I]country[/I] more dangerous, you did that. We never deal with political assassinations, simply because they don't happen here unlike in the USA. Which is why there are no cops in the conference. Do you get it now, you should I simplify it even more?
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;39280462]So how come he failed to kill him?[/QUOTE] I know, right? If I was that guy, I'd be really embarrassed. I'd probably post in this [url=http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1198401]thread[/url].
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