• UK Government Arrest Twitter And Facebook Users If They Incite Violence Against All Muslims
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[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40801523]Since when have people been arrested for criticism of Islam here?[/QUOTE] "In Britain, Police Arrest Twitter And Facebook Users If They Make Anti-Muslim Statements"
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40801523]Since when have people been arrested for criticism of Islam here?[/QUOTE] uh this very thread
Are you two completely stupid? They were arrested for telling people to go out and murder brown people. Did you even attempt to understand what happened, or did you just read the SH thread title.
[QUOTE=Mr. Agree;40801539]You're from Oldham? Shit, I'm from Ashton :v:_| |_:v:[/QUOTE] Isn't everyone stoned in Ashton?
There's a difference between saying "I don't like Islam" and saying "Kill all the Arabs".
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40801505]Different groups are treated differently. The government doesn't want to incite Islamic violence so they grant them more leniency when it comes to hate laws.[/QUOTE] Yeah this is fucking stupid too. 'Doesn't want to incite Islamic violence' is backhanded political correctness and transparent as fuck. It's like 'Yes we recognize that some of you are inherently violent in defense of your religion, but that's fine, we'll let you spew venom as long as you don't actually hurt anyone'. If anything, inciting Islamic violence just allows everyone see it for what it is, faster than if they try to cover it up.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;40801610]If anything, inciting Islamic violence just allows everyone see it for what it is, faster than if they try to cover it up.[/QUOTE] I think once we get rid of the violent islamics we should get rid of the jews in our financial system and the romani from our suburbs. The blacks can stay b/c we're not racist. god bless britain scope400
[QUOTE=NoDachi;40801459]I'm sorry what? You come from america. A country where if a Muslim said they want to blow up or kill white Christians they end up in Guantanamo Bay indefinitely with no trial and tortured.[/QUOTE] Insult his nationality, that'll learn him for asking questions.
[QUOTE=FZE;40801664]Insult his nationality, that'll learn him for asking questions.[/QUOTE] What are you even on about?
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;40799002]While saying anti-Muslim things/racist things is still a dick move, is this not a violation of freedom of speech?[/QUOTE] Freedom of speech doesn't exist in the UK (in the way that it does in other places). Even if it did, hate speech is hate speech. Or inciting violence, or a riot. To be fair its more likely to be one of the later two. [QUOTE=jewdozer;40799928]This inciting hatred thing has gone too far. Non of those messages are serious.[/QUOTE] They made be said in jest but you have no idea if there are people out there who will take them seriously. Its still inciting violence.
Well, obviously something has to be done about the people posting these statements, but arresting them? Yeah that's a bit far in my opinion. I'm sure there was something else they could have done instead of outright arresting them.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;40801647]I think once we get rid of the violent islamics we should get rid of the jews in our financial system and the romani from our suburbs. The blacks can stay b/c we're not racist. god bless britain scope400[/QUOTE] It's not because we're not racist we have to keep the darkies for all us hardworking white people to have as slaves duh!
[QUOTE=dunkace;40799950]If a Brit says something about a Muslim its not a use of Freedom of Speech its Hate Speech and racist and there for is arrested. Any Muslim who speaks out against Britain and its populace, its Freedom of Speech and preaching a religion. FUCK OFF.[/QUOTE] That is complete and utter bollocks. If a Muslim expresses their disagreement with western society etc then yes that is their right to do so, however if the same person was to incite hatred they would be arrested in the exact same manner as a non-Muslim who did the same thing. [editline]27th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=dunkace;40800010]There aren't any. It has been reformed and now called "Hate Speech Laws".[/QUOTE] Again, complete and utter bollocks. The UK has never had any freedom of speech promised or protected by law so there is no way it could have been reformed. [editline]27th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=dunkace;40800021]And what about your extremist preachers? They aren't getting arrested? The main reason their are extremists and radicals in Britain is because we don't stop them at the source with the preachers.[/QUOTE] Islam4UK and Anjem Choudary go look them up.
"Why are these people urging others to murder Muslims when tensions are running high and Anti-Muslim attacks are on a sharp rise being arrested? It's just free speech!" Actions have consequences, and if you have half the internet screeching for all Muslims to be killed at a time when attacks are on a rise and then obviously you are part of the problem.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;40801647]I think once we get rid of the violent islamics we should get rid of the jews in our financial system and the romani from our suburbs. The blacks can stay b/c we're not racist. god bless britain scope400[/QUOTE] Why don't you actually learn about the Koran and what it teachers rather than just assuming that all beliefs people hold are okay and should be allowed. What better place to learn about it than the Koran itself! Here's a link to the Koran, it's 114 short dialogues and shouldn't take long to go through. [url]http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html[/url] Open ANY one and tell me what wisdom is held within. Literally ANY one of the 114 dialogues. Here's the surprise - there isn't any! Pretty much any world religion has a great deal of ancient wisdom throughout it's message - yes there's a lot of belief-driven stuff in there also - but the core wisdom is still there. You don't find that in the Koran - it's 99% [I]'believe what I say or you will die and suffer'[/I] and [I]'be absolutely ruthless and intolerant towards non-believers because they're destined for hell anyway'[/I]. In fact, try to find one passage that doesn't refer back to 'believe or go to hell'. I don't expect you to take my word for it, that's why I'm asking you to actually fucking find out yourself by reading it to find out why this is such a harmful religion. If you're unwilling to do that, then it's pretty obvious to everyone that you're just arguing for the sake of making a show.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;40801747]Why don't you actually learn about the Koran and what it teachers rather than just assuming that all beliefs people hold are okay and should be allowed. Here's a link to the Koran, it's 114 short dialogues and shouldn't taken [url]http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html[/url] Open ANY one and tell me what wisdom is held within. Literally ANY one of the 114 dialogues. Here's the surprise - there isn't any! Pretty much any world religion has a great deal of ancient wisdom throughout it's message - yes there's a lot of belief-driven stuff in there also - but the core wisdom is still there. You don't find that in the Koran - it's 99% [I]'believe what I say or you will die and suffer'[/I] and [I]'be absolutely ruthless and intolerant towards non-believers because they're destined for hell anyway'[/I]. In fact, try to find one passage that doesn't refer back to 'believe or go to hell'. I don't expect you to take my word for it, that's why I'm asking you to actually fucking find out yourself by reading it to find out why this is such a harmful religion. If you're unwilling to do that, then it's pretty obvious to everyone that you're just arguing for the sake of making a show.[/QUOTE] Let me cherrypick parts of a book to make the homogeneous blob of Muslims look bad so I can justify telling people to go out and kill Muslims.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;40801747]Why don't you actually learn about the Koran and what it teachers rather than just assuming that all beliefs people hold are okay and should be allowed. Here's a link to the Koran, it's 114 short dialogues and shouldn't taken [url]http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html[/url] Open ANY one and tell me what wisdom is held within. Literally ANY one of the 114 dialogues. Here's the surprise - there isn't any! Pretty much any world religion has a great deal of ancient wisdom throughout it's message - yes there's a lot of belief-driven stuff in there also - but the core wisdom is still there. You don't find that in the Koran - it's 99% [I]'believe what I say or you will die and suffer'[/I] and [I]'be absolutely ruthless and intolerant towards non-believers because they're destined for hell anyway'[/I]. In fact, try to find one passage that doesn't refer back to 'believe or go to hell'. I don't expect you to take my word for it, that's why I'm asking you to actually fucking find out yourself by reading it to find out why this is such a harmful religion. If you're unwilling to do that, then it's pretty obvious to everyone that you're just arguing for the sake of making a show.[/QUOTE] We're not playing this dumb game again, you amateur. You can do this with any religious text. It proves and justifies absolutely nothing. Apart from that you want to deport every muslim from Britain. Just like how you wanted to get rid of those with mental illnesses in a previous thread
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40801765]Let me cherrypick parts of a book to make the homogeneous blob of Muslims look bad so I can justify telling people to go out and kill Muslims.[/QUOTE] Parts of a book? That's the whole fucking thing. I said [i]open any one[/i] - it's your fucking choice. No cherrypicking on my part! [QUOTE=NoDachi;40801769]We're not playing this dumb game again, you amateur. You can do this with any religious text.[/QUOTE] This is the whole Koran, you could probably read it end-to-end in 3 hours. Stop being an amateur - reciting what you found online ABOUT it and fucking READ IT.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;40801773]Parts of a book? That's the whole fucking thing. I said [i]open any one[/i] - it's your fucking choice. No cherrypicking on my part![/QUOTE] Have you ever posted like this about Christians?
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;40801747]Why don't you actually learn about the Koran and what it teachers rather than just assuming that all beliefs people hold are okay and should be allowed. What better place to learn about it than the Koran itself! Here's a link to the Koran, it's 114 short dialogues and shouldn't take long to go through. [URL]http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html[/URL] Open ANY one and tell me what wisdom is held within. Literally ANY one of the 114 dialogues. Here's the surprise - there isn't any! Pretty much any world religion has a great deal of ancient wisdom throughout it's message - yes there's a lot of belief-driven stuff in there also - but the core wisdom is still there. You don't find that in the Koran - it's 99% [I]'believe what I say or you will die and suffer'[/I] and [I]'be absolutely ruthless and intolerant towards non-believers because they're destined for hell anyway'[/I]. In fact, try to find one passage that doesn't refer back to 'believe or go to hell'. I don't expect you to take my word for it, that's why I'm asking you to actually fucking find out yourself by reading it to find out why this is such a harmful religion. If you're unwilling to do that, then it's pretty obvious to everyone that you're just arguing for the sake of making a show.[/QUOTE] Just out of interest have you read the entire Koran? Because it sounds like you have, I mean otherwise how would you be so knowledgeable on the fact it is just hate? By your logic all Christians are evil because the bible mentions murder and incest on a regular basis.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;40801773]Parts of a book? That's the whole fucking thing. I said [i]open any one[/i] - it's your fucking choice. No cherrypicking on my part![/QUOTE] So the entire thing is this? [quote]KILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILL[/quote]
He lives on the Isle of Man, they probably have like just a handful of people from another ethnic background on the entire island. Which they only keep to burn one every year in a wickerman.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;40801808]He lives on the Isle of Man, they probably have like just a handful of people from another ethnic background on the entire island. Which they only keep to burn one every year in a wickerman.[/QUOTE] Having half of my family entirely composed of immigrants, it's easy to get annoyed when xenophobes go "but but but muh british values".
This whole story seems like a complete waste of time unless we know what the people actually said and were arrested for
[QUOTE=NoDachi;40801808]He lives on the Isle of Man, they probably have like just a handful of people from another ethnic background on the entire island. Which they only keep to burn one every year in a wickerman.[/QUOTE]They'd import them only when needed if they could, but that would mean paying a foreign business and a higher immigration rate.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;40801769]Apart from that you want to deport every muslim from Britain. Just like how you wanted to get rid of those with mental illnesses in a previous thread[/QUOTE] Beliefs are very malleable - the same way you probably genuinely believed in father Christmas, you now no longer do. I think that anyone can change pretty much everything about their beliefs about themselves and others - some people are just more jammed up currently. Refer back to how easy it was for imagination to flow in childhood - but as you age - rigidity sets in as the bullshit piles on. I've never mentioned skin colour in this debate - you're the one who brought it up. [QUOTE=NoDachi;40801808]He lives on the Isle of Man, they probably have like just a handful of people from another ethnic background on the entire island. Which they only keep to burn one every year in a wickerman.[/QUOTE] Yeah I live in the UK now and have for 6 years. [QUOTE=Sobotnik;40801793]So the entire thing is this?[/QUOTE] So witty! I doubt you've even clicked the link because you're scared to death i'll be right and then you'll have nothing to argue.
[QUOTE=smurfy;40801823]This whole story seems like a complete waste of time unless we know what the people actually said and were arrested for[/QUOTE] Pffft facts and actual knowledge is overrated, an uncontrollable mix of hatred and closet racism / xenophobia is all you need.
This will only make things worse. I fear the worst for Britain
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;40801826]Beliefs are very malleable - the same way you probably genuinely believed in father Christmas, you now no longer do. I think that anyone can change pretty much everything about their beliefs about themselves and others - some people are just more jammed up currently. Refer back to how easy it was for imagination to flow in childhood - but as you age - rigidity sets in as the bullshit piles on. So witty! I doubt you've even clicked the link because you're scared to death i'll be right and then you'll have nothing to argue.[/QUOTE] Thanks for reminding everyone how much of a crackpot you are.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40801816]Having half of my family entirely composed of immigrants, it's easy to get annoyed when xenophobes go "but but but muh british values".[/QUOTE] My entire argument is opposed to the religion of Islam. Not the ethnicity, nor skin colour.
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