Huge leak reveals how the world's rich and powerful hide their money and dodge sanctions/taxes
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[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50064219]are you serious, of course they would... because of no American Person indicated.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't even relate to the reason why they won't.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;50063947]"Government agency psi predator corps"? the "Old Parasite"? Insane, nonsensical conspiracy theorist forums are the last thing that's going to help.[/QUOTE]
Hah. How the dingle do you think they KEEP their control? Just pure money and muscle alone?
No, of course they abuse soul power too, via Satanism/evil psychic power.
[QUOTE=Perrine;50063966]
he's joking[/QUOTE]
I'm not. Do your damn research and get the WHOLE conspiracy, not just some of it. Jeez.
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[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50064161]Lots and lots of people are complaining that major news networks aren't reporting this. I wonder if they're putting it off until tomorrow's news or if they're not caring because none of the people in the documents are American.[/QUOTE]They will probably only mention putin.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50064161]Lots and lots of people are complaining that major news networks aren't reporting this. I wonder if they're putting it off until tomorrow's news or if they're not caring because none of the people in the documents are American.[/QUOTE]
Not every outlet had access to these documents (actually only about 1.4 or something like that per country) - every major news outlet is reporting on this in Denmark, and state television ran a documentary on it at 20:00. They've been building this since the autumn basically.
Don't know why us outlets wouldn't report on this, but hopefully sanders can use this case politically and something good will come from it.
I find it extremely odd how no prominent western nations were implicated yet altough the golden middle of western corruption previously mentioned itt seems like an apt theory
Was pretty sure israeli officials would be one of the first names to pop up but I guess our officials are too good at covering their own tracks
I wonder if this is a legitmate leak or just the work of someone with an agenda, whats to stop this group or person who was behind the leak to expose only those they wish? And release a carefully doctored version implicating specific individuals rather than everyone who was involved?
[QUOTE=Melnek;50064442]I find it extremely odd how no prominent western nations were implicated yet altough the golden middle of western corruption previously mentioned itt seems like an apt theory
Was pretty sure israeli officials would be one of the first names to pop up but I guess our officials are too good at covering their own tracks
I wonder if this is a legitmate leak or just the work of someone with an agenda, whats to stop this group or person who was behind the leak to expose only those they wish? And release a carefully doctored version implicating specific individuals rather than everyone who was involved?[/QUOTE]
The Danish documentary was basically all about danish rich people and banks being implicated in this. Is the Icelandic prime minister not western enough, or Lionel messi? Remember this is just one company's records, and they probably haven't shifted through the entire thing yet. Putin is also only implicated by proxy iirc, so yeah some people are probably better at covering their tracks.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50064483]The Danish documentary was basically all about danish rich people and banks being implicated in this. Is the Icelandic prime minister not western enough, or Lionel messi? Remember this is just one company's records, and they probably haven't shifted through the entire thing yet. Putin is also only implicated by proxy iirc, so yeah some people are probably better at covering their tracks.[/QUOTE]
Well no they arent too western tbh because iceland is virtually irrelevant to the global political stage and Messi is just a football player.
Im talking about nations which are considered the pillars of the west like say germany, france, UK and of course the US. The majority of the people implicated in this come from backwards shitholes which isnt at all surprising. But yeah I guess we have to wait until they go through the entire thing since it really is just the tip of the iceberg.
[QUOTE=Melnek;50064553]Well no they arent too western tbh because iceland is virtually irrelevant to the global political stage and Messi is just a football player.
Im talking about nations which are considered the pillars of the west like say germany, france, UK and of course the US. The majority of the people implicated in this come from backwards shitholes which isnt at all surprising. But yeah I guess we have to wait until they go through the entire thing since it really is just the tip of the iceberg.[/QUOTE]
I don't think they'll find anything shocking, they've had the data for maybe 3-5 months now.
Not surprising as the fact that some offshore bill are tied [B]DIRECTLY[/B] to some presidents. How dumb it gets?!
I mean, IMHO atleast putin had somekind of "friendship is magic" inner circle for money laundry but Poroshenko straight up [B]OWNS[/B] Roshen and all accounts go directly to him.
How can you fuck up soo badly and still be supported by EU expecting new fresh loans?
People don't like to be taxed, woah. Who would have thought?
[QUOTE=karimatrix;50064766]Not surprising as the fact that some offshore bill are tied [B]DIRECTLY[/B] to some presidents. How dumb it gets?!
I mean, IMHO atleast putin had somekind of "friendship is magic" inner circle for money laundry but Poroshenko straight up [B]OWNS[/B] Roshen and all accounts go directly to him.
How can you fuck up soo badly and still be supported by EU expecting new fresh loans?[/QUOTE]
Yeah it's fine that our president is a corrupt fuck, at least Ukrainian president is a dumbass. Helps me sleep at night too.
[B]NZ linked to global tax evasion scheme[/B]
[QUOTE]In the face of the biggest leak of documents surrounding the tax secrets of the rich and powerful, the New Zealand Government says it is "ridiculous" to suggest the country is a tax haven.
New Zealand is at the centre of a global scheme, according to the leak of 11.5 million documents, about 2.6 terabytes of data, which has come from Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca, one of the world's most secretive offshore law firms.
It reveals how world leaders, including Russian President Vladimir Putin and Bashar al-Assad, hide their money.
[B]New Zealand has been named as an important part of the network. The Australian Financial Review (AFR) says there are more than 12,000 offshore trusts in New Zealand that pay no tax on foreign earnings[/B].[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.newshub.co.nz/world/nz-linked-to-global-tax-evasion-scheme-2016040409[/URL]
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50061282]So the US is not as corrupt as we think?[/QUOTE]
No it is, we've legalized it though so it isn't technically corruption
I feel bad that people will still ignore this and will worship people like Lionel Messi, what a shame.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50064161]Lots and lots of people are complaining that major news networks aren't reporting this. I wonder if they're putting it off until tomorrow's news or if they're not caring because none of the people in the documents are American.[/QUOTE]
Bbc reported on it this morning on the radio
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;50064964]I feel bad that people will still ignore this and will worship people like Lionel Messi, what a shame.[/QUOTE]
People dont worship him for what he does or doesnt do with his money or his political opinions as few as they are.
They worship him for his skills which are beyond world class.
[editline]4th April 2016[/editline]
Hes also a role model for hundreds of thousands of little kids all around the world, the positives heavily outweigh the negatives.
That's why it's bad, because he's supposed to be a role model. Doesn't matter why.
[QUOTE=ClauAmericano;50064190]News networks will never report this.[/QUOTE]
Depends on the country. Here in Germany it's ALL over the news - from big, populist newspapers to smaller and more serious sources, everybody is talking about it. I myself am on my way to grab the [B]Süddeutsche Zeitung[/B], the original initiator of the leak. They have a HUGE article and illustration in the current issue.
You guys can watch the progress over one year of investigation in this video made by [B]SZ[/B]:
[url]http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/assets/videos/48114089843ac63b30a11d8b9e3730a158b469bd6d8fc2480de3318bc06fa7417fe73408ac5a0e6087f3bc3e1285c5ae7837d717bdc89bffa88df3d40f6b5ec8.mp4[/url] (english subtitles available)
Sorry, embedding won't work.
[QUOTE=gudman;50064857]Yeah it's fine that our president is a corrupt fuck, at least Ukrainian president is a dumbass. Helps me sleep at night too.[/QUOTE]
ya missed the point.
I don't see our president receiving financical help from EU after being outed as corrupted fuck.
But Poroshenko [B]will[/B] get all ze moneys and Roshen is still at his disposal and accounts tied directly to him.
This is what pissing me off the most.
This report does not change anything for the world.
[QUOTE=karimatrix;50065174]This report does not change anything for the world.[/QUOTE]
The only thing that probably will change significantly is how people hide and protect their tax haven schemes.
"Editor of Süddeutsche Zeitung responded to the lack of U.S. individuals in the documents, saying "Just wait for what is coming next""
[QUOTE=Lazore;50065186]"Editor of Süddeutsche Zeitung responded to the lack of U.S. individuals in the documents, saying "Just wait for what is coming next""[/QUOTE]
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But yeah, the way he presents it means he cooks up something perhabs tied in with elections? Waiting for a right moment perhabs?
[QUOTE=Lazore;50065186]"Editor of Süddeutsche Zeitung responded to the lack of U.S. individuals in the documents, saying "Just wait for what is coming next""[/QUOTE]
ok fuck well this is gonna be big
According to ABC News here, at least a hundred (edit: [b]800[/b]) Australians have been implicated in this leak, and the Australian Taxation Office has already begun an investigation.
nvm
I was going to say the lack of Americans might just be because they won't do business with a laundering company that likely does business for Office 39 aka the organized crime syndicate that funds North Korea.
But who am I kidding, theirs money to be made
Another development in Australia, too: Wilson Security, who hold contracts for the security of the Prime Minister and the federal cabinet, have been implicated in the leak.
[QUOTE=Tobin;50064044]People are STILL going to deny that the economy is fucked and the poor are getting fucked over[/QUOTE]
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Literally all you need to know to come to this conclusion.
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