Now that "old" Spider-Man is dead Venom developes love-hate relationship to new Spider-Man because he finds out how boring life is without original Spider-Man..
Then Venom proceeds to rape and beat the living shit out of new Spider-Man. Multiple times.
The end.
[QUOTE=TH89;31520706]It's not an "illusion," per se, it might not matter biologically, but minorities still face a lot of discrimination (including the fact that they're pretty dramatically under-represented in superhero comics, which is comparatively minor, but on topic so whatever). Having more minority superheros is a good thing because it makes minority kids who read comic books feel less weird and excluded, which can really affect development at an early age.
I think it would be a lot better if they created [i]new[/i] superheros who were minorities and gave them great stories and series, instead of just endlessly killing off, resurrecting, and retooling the same bunch of characters they've had around since the days of segregation, but the superhero comics industry is ridiculously conservative so that's not going to happen any time soon. This is a lot better than nothing.[/QUOTE]
what's the best way to piss off your demographic of white nerdy conservative xenophobic comic readers?
kill the white nerdy conservative xenophobic well established character and replace him with black/mexican character while still using the same name
gonna be fuckin raking in the cash
I think we're all missing the big picture here.
RIP Spidey (atleast in one canon)
Why are people blowing this out of proportion.
They are getting MAD and ANGRY for no reason.
What I'm really wondering, unlike the rest of this thread, is how can he replace Peter as Spiderman, was he bitten by a genetically altered spider as well?
[QUOTE=RichyZ;31522521]the writer thought "eh, black people can climb a lot of shit i guess this works"[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OndG4b5M-Q4[/media]
Spiderman.
[QUOTE=EzioAuditore;31522888]Russian Superman
[IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_aDL2hf0tHj4/SAQMjE7_TWI/AAAAAAAAAjg/qIqNbqnkXYY/s400/redson_1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I saw that at the local Borders.
I actually considered buying it. :v:
Who the shit cares that Ultimates spiderman is dead? It's the ultimates, they've yet to have a single good issue.
I think you're confusing yourself between the Ultimate universe and The Ultimates.
What's in a name? Besides, we're talking about the universe where Magneto's twin children were having an incestual relationship.
Someone call up the Spider-Man: Source team up to make a mod for this
I think a completely Mexican spiderman would be cooler.
[QUOTE=TH89;31520706]It's not an "illusion," per se, it might not matter biologically, but minorities still face a lot of discrimination (including the fact that they're pretty dramatically under-represented in superhero comics, which is comparatively minor, but on topic so whatever). Having more minority superheros is a good thing because it makes minority kids who read comic books feel less weird and excluded, which can really affect development at an early age.
I think it would be a lot better if they created [i]new[/i] superheros who were minorities and gave them great stories and series, instead of just endlessly killing off, resurrecting, and retooling the same bunch of characters they've had around since the days of segregation, but the superhero comics industry is ridiculously conservative so that's not going to happen any time soon. This is a lot better than nothing.[/QUOTE]
KEEP affirmative action out of our comics please!
[QUOTE=TH89;31520706]I think it would be a lot better if they created [i]new[/i] superheros who were minorities and gave them great stories and series,[/QUOTE]
Oh, they've already tried that [I]Blue Beetle[/I]. Big problem: new heroes don't sell [I]Blue Beetle[/I]. Otherwise, we'd still have a really good comic series still on the shelves [I]Blue Beetle[/I].
[QUOTE=TH89;31520706]It's not an "illusion," per se, it might not matter biologically, but minorities still face a lot of discrimination (including the fact that they're pretty dramatically under-represented in superhero comics, which is comparatively minor, but on topic so whatever). Having more minority superheros is a good thing because it makes minority kids who read comic books feel less weird and excluded, which can really affect development at an early age.[/QUOTE]
I can see your reasoning, but I completely disagree because it pushes the message that minorities should role models that are also minorities. From my point of view, anything that pushes that race matters and that it attributes something to your character is negative because it contradicts that race and ethnicity should matter as much as a person's eye color. I think it is agreeable to say that a non racist society wouldn't be color blind, yet rather they wouldn't see the importance of skin color. This is why I oppose ideas that enforce the message that skin color is important and meaningful.
On a realistic level, I do understand that most people, especially kids, will be more interested in a figure of their own persuasion, for example a black kid who is into hip hop is likely to have a black rapper as their favorite as opposed to the white kid who likely has a white rapper like Eminem as their favorite. If this is true on a general level and a minority super hero might have some positive impact, is it a good thing to support and want? Yes, but I can't support it regardless because it goes against my ideals.
[QUOTE=EzioAuditore;31522888]Russian Superman
[IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_aDL2hf0tHj4/SAQMjE7_TWI/AAAAAAAAAjg/qIqNbqnkXYY/s400/redson_1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
That comic was quite awesome, not only because of Superman but also anarchist/terrorist Batman and his russian fur cap.
Why not make him into a woman when we are at it, oh and lets make him a homosexual woman. Oh and let him have a wheelchair. That will please the minorities.
I'm not racist but spiderman can't be black, that's sacrilegious
You're all morons, it doesn't matter what colour his skin is
[QUOTE=Kentz;31524082]Why not make him into a woman when we are at it, oh and lets make him a homosexual woman. Oh and let him have a wheelchair. That will please the minorities.[/QUOTE]
why not indeed
[QUOTE=thisispain;31524204]why not indeed[/QUOTE]
Would you like to change every character in Shakespears plays to fit the political correct agenda too?
[QUOTE=Kentz;31524247]Would you like to change every character in Shakespears plays to fit the political correct agenda too?[/QUOTE]
lmao like spiderman is on par with shakespeare
[QUOTE=Kentz;31524247]Would you like to change every character in Shakespears plays to fit the political correct agenda too?[/QUOTE]
i wouldn't but other people certainly have see: Romeo + Juliet.
shakespear is a stupid example because it's in the public domain so i could do a rewrite using lesbian bears if i wanted to.
[QUOTE=thisispain;31524204]why not indeed[/QUOTE]
They already did that, the sales were abysmal.
[B]Four times.[/B]
[QUOTE=TH89;31520256]1. This is an alternate universe you idiots
2. The way this has been reported and sensationalized as if it's a big deal is pretty racist
[b]3. There is absolutely no reason the character of a troubled, poor teenager from New York has to be white, his ethnicity is completely irrelevant to the character of Spider-Man[/b][/QUOTE]
Eugh, why are you in the minority in this thread.
I heard this yesterday; was thrilled. The fact that everyone is so up in arms about it shows why it was a good idea. Having a non-Caucasian play Spider-Man in an alternate universe =/= end of the fucking world/proof that the white male are an endangered species/minorities are taking over the universe.
[QUOTE=Kentz;31524247]Would you like to change every character in Shakespears plays to fit the political correct agenda too?[/QUOTE]
The fact that you think that's a remotely comparable example says a lot.
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;31524309]They already did that, the sales were abysmal.
[B]Four times.[/B][/QUOTE]
tons of ridiculous shit happens in these comic books
there's spider-girl who's the offspring of peter and mary-jane and there's a whole series of random non-canonical shit like what if spider-man was actually a serial rapist bitten by a shark
[QUOTE=thisispain;31524369]and there's a whole series of random non-canonical shit like what if spider-man was actually a serial rapist bitten by a shark[/QUOTE]
That would be Marvel's "What if" series. The equivalent of DC's Elseworlds.
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Whatif105.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;31519641][B]BEFORE YOU FREAK OUT, I AM NOT A RACIST, AND I BELIEVE ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL[/B]
But in all seriousness, why'd you have to go and make him black? It's not like it gives him any extra powers.
Spiderman is supposed to be a skinny-ass, paste white, American Boy who's bitten by a radioactive spider and receives the ability to life massive weights, shoot webs from his fingers, and scale walls.[/QUOTE]
Not anymore. Its about better sales and conquering more fans in the easy, stupid way.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;31519641]who's bitten by a radioactive spider and receives the ability to [...] shoot webs from his fingers,[/QUOTE]
[B]WRONG.[/B]
I don't really care who they're replacing Parker with, but I'm wondering how they're going to do it, is he going to have the same powers? How's he going to get them, ect.[QUOTE=Kentz;31524082]Why not make him into a woman when we are at it, oh and lets make him a homosexual woman. Oh and let him have a wheelchair. That will please the minorities.[/QUOTE]Lesbian spiderwomen sounds fine to me, if they keep the nerdy smartass part of it done well, that's the main thing I like about Spiderman anyway.
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