[QUOTE=Ghost656;44138156]Did you even read what's on the site?
You're stupid enough to ignore every other source and head straight to wikipedia. Is this your primary source for everything?
But of course, it's you again, you never bother to actually study the whole story behind this and the only thing you're really capable of is quoting a wikipedia article and saying "fuck off"[/QUOTE]
[url]http://books.google.pl/books?id=A4FlatJCro4C&pg=PA247&dq=piotrowski+16+and+60+years#v=onepage&q&f=false[/url]
If you were not inbred enough to not check the obvious sources, you'd realize that he has quite the reason to call you out on your statement.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;44138222]Some half baked apologist site with no sources isn't better than wiki either.
The war crimes committed by Ukrainian nationalists is well documented and undeniable.[/QUOTE]
Well documented?
Fuck off you cunts, we don't have time for your shit right now.
Newkraine, heh.
[QUOTE=Ghost656;44138269]Well documented?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Martin, Terry (December 1998). "The Origins of Soviet Ethnic Cleansing". The Journal of Modern History (The University of Chicago Press) 70 (4): 820.
Institute of Ukrainian History, Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, Organization of
Ukrainian Nationalists and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, Chapter 16, pg. 247-295
Tadeusz Piotrowski, Poland's holocaust. Published by McFarland. Page 247
Władysław Filar, Wydarzenia wołyńskie 1939-1944. Wydawnictwo Adam Marszałek. Toruń
2008 ISBN 978-83-7441-884-3
Grzegorz Motyka, Ukraińska Partyzantka 1942-1960, Warszawa 2006, p. 329[/QUOTE]
Yeah, no.
[QUOTE=gufu;44138355]Yeah, no.[/QUOTE]
Read this then.
[url]http://www.opendemocracy.net/od-russia/roman-kabachiy/ukraine-poland-history-wars-rage-on[/url]
[url]http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/ukrainian-insurgent-army-myths-and-facts-314313.html[/url]
[quote]Faizulin found that, as of July 26, 1945, there were 156 special Soviet units marauding western Ukraine masquerading as UPA units. They numbered 1,783 NKVD (Soviet secret police) and former UPA soldiers who “liquidated” 1,980 underground fighters and captured 1,142 people. And as of Feb. 20, 1950 (five years after World War II), 19 NKVD units (numbering 130 people) were roaming western Ukraine as UPA imposters, killing, raping, torturing and stealing. [/quote]
confirmation bias
[QUOTE=NoDachi;44138746]confirmation bias[/QUOTE]
What's funny is that you too are displaying confirmation bias.
So you're not really getting far by stating that.
There's no point in arguing with you, you're biased, and it's pretty obvious. Last time I argued with you, you were even trying to provoke me.
What exactly am I trying to confirm?
I'm just not the one being an war crime apologist.
Some of the most active members of this nazi movement was also seen in Chechnya in 90s fighting against federal forces. This man Sashko Bilyi for example. So yeah, dont be surprised that things like this makes Putin very nervous and rude in question of politics in light of this.
My advice to Ukraine: if you want Putin off your ass - get rid of those nazis asap. Or one moment he will just come to Kiev himself no matter the consequences.
Gratz to BBC btw
Nah, those true nazis are a smallest minority of this 'NEOFASCIST MOVEMENT IN UGRAINE OMG' (btw, fascism was a Italy's thing, Germany's kinda different and has a separate name). Our soviet past just won't allow us a national-social movement like in pre-WW2 Germany.
[QUOTE=ViPeRD;44139308]btw, fascism was a Italy's thing, Germany's kinda different and has a separate name).[/QUOTE]
What...?
[QUOTE=matt000024;44139427]What...?[/QUOTE]
Read about fascism and Nazi Germany's national-socialism on the wiki, they are not the same.
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