Police arrest a man for filming them during a raid, and then shoot his dog three times. Man official
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[QUOTE=Bazsil;41272331]The same goes for the cops, bro
Obviously they should have realized that the dog jumping at them as they dragged the owner away was just playing right??? No dog has ever actually ATTACKED a cop before
These threads are always stupid cop-whining threads[/QUOTE]
this doesn't make any sense. I haven't commented on the attack at all, just what basic steps they could have followed to make sure that it never happened in the first place
[QUOTE=Dori;41272281]keeping track of where a dog is and assessing whether or not it's a threat before apprehending its owner isn't a superpower[/QUOTE]
The dog owner fucked up, and you're blaming the cops because of your sheltered perception of the world around you. I'm sorry.
[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;41272316]the most annoying part of this is seeing those two little pricks going over to the guy in their fucking uptight power stride[/QUOTE]
Aw shit look at those two assholes, fuckin... WALKING over towards that guy! Who do they think they are!
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41272347]The dog owner fucked up, and you're blaming the cops because of your sheltered perception of the world around you. I'm sorry.[/QUOTE]
it's totally his fault that his dog got shot, yeah
[QUOTE=Judas;41272333]I do
you guys just keep throwing insults at me instead of, you know, [i]asking[/i][/QUOTE]
Your comments where so ridiculous I don't think anyone wants to hear the rest. When you basically say police are useless there isn't anywhere else to go
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41272347]The dog owner fucked up, and you're blaming the cops because of your sheltered perception of the world around you. I'm sorry.[/QUOTE]
How the [I]fuck[/I] did the dog owner fuck up?
[QUOTE=Judas;41272333]I do
you guys just keep throwing insults at me instead of, you know, [i]asking[/i][/QUOTE]
Asking what? Why cops are bad? For every anecdote people have of the police fucking them over, you'll have an anecdote of the police doing the opposite and being a force for good.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41272347]The dog owner fucked up, and you're blaming the cops because of your sheltered perception of the world around you. I'm sorry.[/QUOTE]
I'm more blaming the institution than the individual cops. things like this would happen much less frequently if cops were taught how to deal with dogs. the dog posed more of a threat than the man, so securing it should have been the first priority
[QUOTE=Dori;41272342]this doesn't make any sense. I haven't commented on the attack at all, just what basic steps they could have followed to make sure that it never happened in the first place[/QUOTE]
You responded with it to a post saying that it's the owners' fault the dog got shot, in context it was looking like you were defending him with it.
[QUOTE=gk99;41272372]How the [I]fuck[/I] did the dog owner fuck up?[/QUOTE]
Not restraining his dog? This is rather simple, the cops came to question/arrest him or whatever, and he should have restrained his dog, put it in the car with windows up, wrapped the leash around something.
[QUOTE=Camundongo;41272373]Asking what? Why cops are bad? For every anecdote people have of the police fucking them over, you'll have an anecdote of the police doing the opposite and being a force for good.[/QUOTE]
So by that logic it's an equilibrium and the world [I]would[/I] be the same without police.
[QUOTE=Judas;41272255]the insurance company would help me much more than a cop did
again, my house has already been ransacked, what will a cop do to fix that? buy me new things?[/QUOTE]
you must simply live in a shitty neighborhood
cops aren't assholes where I'm from
Also what does "poor" and "black" even have to do with this? Title is pretty sensationalist.
[QUOTE=Camundongo;41272373]Asking what? Why cops are bad? For every anecdote people have of the police fucking them over, you'll have an anecdote of the police doing the opposite and being a force for good.[/QUOTE]
which is why anecdotal evidence is bad and I haven't used it once in this thread
[QUOTE=Dori;41272378]I'm more blaming the institution than the individual cops. things like this would happen much less frequently if cops were taught how to deal with dogs. the dog posed more of a threat than the man, so securing it should have been the first priority[/QUOTE]
They probably thought the fact that he put it a car meant it was already restrained and no longer an issue, they trusted the guy too much.
Cops should've just told the guy to back up instead of just arresting him.. whole situation could've been avoided. As for the dog being killed, totally justified. 3:13 - 3:18 dog goes for the cop, cop defends herself and partners by shooting the dog.
[QUOTE=Bazsil;41272400]Also what does "poor" and "black" even have to do with this? Title is pretty sensationalist.[/QUOTE]
that happens every time some cop has to make a hard choice
he gets attacked by a naked dude on fucking bathsalts / pcp and has to shoot them
"White cop shoots black man for being black more at 11"
p.s. those of you asking why he didn't just use a taser or pepper spray is because both are "ineffective" in a sense that all it'll do is make the dog more aggressive.
Personally, they should have at least tased it. If they absolutely had to shoot it, they need to be trained to shoot it in a non fatal place.
[B]Edit:
[/B]I didn't take into consideration non-fatal shots don't exist, I'm dumb etc
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41272405]They probably thought the fact that he put it a car meant it was already restrained and no longer an issue, they trusted the guy too much.[/QUOTE]
yes, which is why I'm shifting the blame to them. they should have been more cautious
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;41272421]p.s. those of you asking why he didn't just use a taser or pepper spray is because both are "ineffective" in a sense that all it'll do is make the dog more aggressive.[/QUOTE]
Literally it would, the dog wasn't even dead immediately, which is already a testament to the resilience of the dog. A taser would have done much less, and the dog would've just attacked straight up.
[QUOTE=ExTek;41272424]Personally, they should have at least tased it. If they absolutely had to shoot it, they need to be trained to shoot it in a non fatal place.[/QUOTE]
did you skip my post
Should have let the owner secure his animal before anything. Seriously.
[QUOTE=Str4fe;41271729]Damn, he shouldve closed the windows a bit more.[/QUOTE]
Or, uh, they could have not have walked half a block down the street to arrest somebody who clearly wasn't obstructing [I]anything?[/I]
It doesn't matter if he did something stupid, this guy could have been drinking his own piss whilst huffing paint thinner and he still wouldn't have been in the wrong. They shouldn't have been detaining him in the first place, the fault lies entirely with them. This was a direct consequence of them not doing their job properly.
[QUOTE=ExTek;41272424]Personally, they should have at least tased it. If they absolutely had to shoot it, they need to be trained to shoot it in a non fatal place.[/QUOTE]
tazering a moving target, especially a dog, is really impractical. also, non-lethal shots are a hollywood myth
[QUOTE=ExTek;41272424]Personally, they should have at least tased it. If they absolutely had to shoot it,[B] they need to be trained to shoot it in a non fatal place.[/B][/QUOTE]
You cannot be "Trained" to shoot in a non fatal place. that's impossible.
When you take out a gun, you better intend to kill whatever you're aiming for. Because that's exactly what a gun is, a tool to kill something. Nothing else. it's very hard to do purposefully non fatal shots, ESPECIALLY when you need to act FAST.
[QUOTE=ExTek;41272424]Personally, they should have at least tased it. If they absolutely had to shoot it, they need to be trained to shoot it in a non fatal place.[/QUOTE]
"shoot it in a non fatal place"
Your credibility is shot
You NEVER shoot someone "non-lethally".
Shit, that was awful. The cop who shot the dog shouldn't get in trouble though, he was probably panicking and wasn't thinking straight. The guilt of killing a dog is good enough of a punishment.
Altogether, the cops here didn't know how to their job correctly. The right thing to do would have been to ignore the guy, or if they had to -- ask him to put his camera away. What these people did shouldn't affect your judgement of the police altogether, stuff like this only makes the news because otherwise the news would be flooded with cops doing good things rather than other, more important things.
[QUOTE=J!NX;41272450]You cannot be "Trained" to shoot in a non fatal place. that's impossible.
When you take out a gun, you better intend to kill whatever you're aiming for.[/QUOTE]
yeah, non-fatal shootings do not exist
it's simply never happened
[QUOTE=Judas;41272463]yeah, non-fatal shootings do not exist
it's simply never happened[/QUOTE]
thats not what I said at all
I said you can't be trained to make them every time.
Gun's are made for killing, not disabling.
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