• Fox News on Boston Bombers and Family: "He has no rights!"
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[QUOTE=Disotrtion;40489752]That is crazy revisionism right here. There was literally no Congressional opposition to the bill until after it was already passed, and the bill was widely supported by both prominent Democrats and Republicans. Only one congressman voted against the Act. It wasn't until months later that Congress started questioning the bill.[/QUOTE] Wasn't it passed before anyone had read it? Or is that just a myth?
[QUOTE=Fayez;40488910]So they don't care about any of the rights in the Constitution except the 2nd one? Fucking racist, xenophobic, hypocritical bastards. Obligatory [video=youtube;qgTiy2DP6SI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgTiy2DP6SI[/video][/QUOTE] Part of fox's response. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3NSAQpXVzo&feature=youtu.be[/media]
I loathe Fox News but i really have no opinion on this rant in relation to that family, they raise some completely valid points here, it's just sad that in this instance it backs their xenophobic agenda. The family are hardly the victims they are trying to make themselves out to be, and they have been mindlessly arrogant in trying to place the blame on everyone else but their children. Sure this would be hard to accept for any parents, they feel backed into a corner and such, but when it comes to their conspiracey thoeries and pretending they could be killed next in a attempt to make themselves look like victims, then it just starts getting rediclious. The uncle was the only one with his head on straight, he asked for the kids to "turn themselves in" and said they were "leaving a black mark on the entire family" and that's the kind of stuff that someone can relate to, but the rest of the family have been as shady as they come. and btw let's not try to justify would-be religious genocide on our own people just because as a country we tend to be ignorant of others cultures. Nobody should be attacked based on ideals centered on some angry deity in the sky. [video=youtube;sIvrJ-v03zY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIvrJ-v03zY[/video]
Look at that woman's lips, Jesus. They look like they might fall off if she's not careful.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;40488814]Just because you don't agree with her idea on how the country works doesn't make her ignorant. I promise even is she's a shitty fake judge or newscaster or whatever, she still knows more than you about whats going on in the world. She just sees it differently. [/QUOTE] Yeah right, I bet everyone else hid in another room while they released her into the studio with a remotely opened portcullis
[QUOTE=cmcw;40490145]I loathe Fox News but i really have no opinion on this rant in relation to that family, they raise some completely valid points here, it's just sad that in this instance it backs their xenophobic agenda. The family are hardly the victims they are trying to make themselves out to be, and they have been mindlessly arrogant in trying to place the blame on everyone else but their children. Sure this would be hard to accept for any parents, they feel backed into a corner and such, but when it comes to their conspiracey thoeries and pretending they could be killed next in a attempt to make themselves look like victims, then it just starts getting rediclious. The uncle was the only one with his head on straight, he asked for the kids to "turn themselves in" and said they were "leaving a black mark on the entire family" and that's the kind of stuff that someone can relate to, but the rest of the family have been as shady as they come. and btw let's not try to justify would-be religious genocide on our own people just because as a country we tend to be ignorant of others cultures. Nobody should be attacked based on ideals centered on some angry deity in the sky. [video=youtube;sIvrJ-v03zY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIvrJ-v03zY[/video][/QUOTE] it doesn't matter though. the point is that theory are getting a civil trial
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;40490224]it doesn't matter though. the point is that theory are getting a civil trial[/QUOTE] Well he deserves a fair trial under our laws because our laws are designed to keep innocent people out of jail (generally speaking) which is why we bother going through the motions even in cases like this where the guy is obviously guilty. Unless you for some reason believe he is not guilty... even though innocent people don't really hide and shoot police officers outside of Hollywood movies. In which case if such a conspiracy is that deep what difference would a trial make anyway. The parents are also being investigated for ties to terrorism, their town in Russia is victim to many of these attacks from Radical-Islamists. There was one today infact [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/bomb-russias-dagestan-kills-19080530#.UYFIjrWG21w"]http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/bomb-russias-dagestan-kills-19080530#.UYFIjrWG21w[/URL] At this point the better hope there is nothing to dig up on them but shouting jihad and paranoid conspiracies certainly doesn't help.
The thing I have noticed is that the same people who complain about law enforcement, and yelling about NWO and 'police state' are the same ones demanding this guy have no rights. It's been quite a bit of irony.
[QUOTE=cmcw;40490397]Well he deserves a fair trial under our laws because our laws are designed to keep innocent people out of jail (generally speaking) which is why we bother going through the motions even in cases like this where the guy is obviously guilty. Unless you for some reason believe he is not guilty... even though innocent people don't really hide and shoot police officers outside of Hollywood movies. In which case if such a conspiracy is that deep what difference would a trial make anyway. The parents are also being investigated for ties to terrorism, their town in Russia is victim to many of these attacks from Radical-Islamists. There was one today infact [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/bomb-russias-dagestan-kills-19080530#.UYFIjrWG21w"]http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/bomb-russias-dagestan-kills-19080530#.UYFIjrWG21w[/URL] At this point the better hope there is nothing to dig up on them but shouting jihad and paranoid conspiracies certainly doesn't help.[/QUOTE] The law does not at any point say, "all people have the right to a fair trial by a jury of their peers, unless we really think they're guilty." It's not a matter of pomp and circumstance. A trial needs to commence, both to uphold the rights of the accused, and for the sake of legitimacy in the eyes of the public. [editline]/[/editline] Whoops, misread your post. I thought you wrote, "why bother going through the motions in cases where the guy is obviously guilty?"
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;40490834] Whoops, misread your post. I thought you wrote, "why bother going through the motions in cases where the guy is obviously guilty?"[/QUOTE] Yes, cause i agree there should definitely always be a trial. We can probably save everyone the thousands in tax payer money and tell everyone he's guilty right now but even for sake of getting this stuff out on the record it's good to have a trial.
What the heck did i just watch... hatemongering works really great with ignorance. It is the perfect distraction. Oh and i wish to add. Just because fox news is terrible. It does not make any of the other news channels, news papers and sources any better or more credible. They are all working on the same page, but with diffrient flavours to suit diffrient minds.
If the people running Fox News and all of their hosts died in a horrific explosion and all of them burned to death, i probably wouldn't give a shit.
[QUOTE=Splarg!;40488634]Love the Crazy Jihad Lady photo they used for her quotes. [img]http://oi40.tinypic.com/rscsxt.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] That is such a rampant display of juvenile xenophobia I'm quite honestly disgusted and saddened And by a "news outlet" that titulates itself [I]fair and balanced[/I], no less
As a conservative, even I do not like Ann Coulter, and Sean Hannity has been working my nerves as of late. Since the bomber they caught is a US citizen, they have to abide by the Constitution, but wasn't the older brother a foreign national? Could they have tried as terrorist had they caught him alive?
How the fuck does a news corporation like this survive in a western nation? Seriously, how the fuck can the American public be such a mass of drooling fucking retards that Fox News is taken seriously by a large section of society?
I mean, at least racists moving in the political spectrum usually have the common decency of covering up their true agendas with carefully chosen wording. This just blatantly shouts "we're racists and proud of it"
Good thing Fox News doesn't have any authority over human rights. Only God has that authority.
there's so many things wrong with this I honestly can't be bothered even trying to post about it, all I can say is this is just another chapter in fox news' push to scare stupid people into supporting mental right wing policies your media fucking sucks
[QUOTE=Fort83;40491535]I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people in other countries hate the US because of people like those at fox news, who outright insult them at every turn. Fox news needs to be shut down and everyone there needs to be fired.[/QUOTE] Between Fox News and other shitty media outlets as well as shit like the drone strikes then the US could easily become one of the most hated countries in the world. Which just drives the wheel of war really, the next generation of terrorists are currently growing up watching their neighbours get eviscerated thanks to some cunt sitting having his morning coffee as he pilots a drone.
[QUOTE=Fort83;40491535]I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people in other countries hate the US because of people like those at fox news, who outright insult them at every turn. Fox news needs to be shut down and everyone there needs to be fired.[/QUOTE] Fire everyone at Fox besides Gregg and Shep. They are the only saving grace to that network
Yeah I dont know why but I kind of like Shep
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;40491364]How the fuck does a news corporation like this survive in a western nation? Seriously, how the fuck can the American public be such a mass of drooling fucking retards that Fox News is taken seriously by a large section of society?[/QUOTE] If I had to give an answer, I would say that we don't know any better. All of our cable news stations have a political slant to them and have for a really long time. So conservatives will naturally watch Fox News, since it aligns with their ideals (which is a significant portion of the US population). I guess its a case of confirmation bias. And none of those stations are really regulated in any way, short of technical FCC regulation. So they can literally say anything they want as long as they have people watching. And many people will naturally believe they are right (after all, why would a "news organization" twist the truth?)
[QUOTE=Demache;40491605]If I had to give an answer, I would say that we don't know any better. All of our cable news stations have a political slant to them. So conservatives will naturally watch Fox News, since it aligns with their ideals (which is a significant portion of the US population). I guess its a case of confirmation bias. And none of those stations are really regulated in any way, short of technical FCC regulation. So they can literally say anything they want as long as they have people watching. And many people will naturally believe they are getting the truth (after all, why would a "news organization" twist the truth?)[/QUOTE] See that's the problem, America never really grew up past the whole manifest destiny bullshit so everyone still has a bit of that "Us or them," mentality that refuses to die so everyone's stuck in their own bullshit little camps.
They just made fun of a woman as she cried over her dead sons. Doesn't matter what they did. That's low.
[QUOTE=Echidna666;40489060]Holy shit at 4:10[/QUOTE] Jesus, take a look at the whole clip. There is just [I]so much[/I] wrong with what she's saying. I knew Ann Coulter was a nutjob, but she constantly surprises me with how pointlessly [I]awful[/I] she is. "There is nothing wrong with being discriminatory!" [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIQV9T_J-EU[/media] "How are immigrants making this country better even when they're [I]not[/I] blowing stuff up? Do we really need another push-cart operator?"
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;40491623]See that's the problem, America never really grew up past the whole manifest destiny bullshit so everyone still has a bit of that "Us or them," mentality that refuses to die so everyone's stuck in their own bullshit little camps.[/QUOTE] Pretty much. Its ingrained in our culture. Which is probably not a good thing at all.
[QUOTE=Steve Harvey;40491584]Yeah I dont know why but I kind of like Shep[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;YuF03PTNpp8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuF03PTNpp8[/video]
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;40491661]Jesus, take a look at the whole clip. There is just [I]so much[/I] wrong with what she's saying. I knew Ann Coulter was a nutjob, but she constantly surprises me with how pointlessly [I]awful[/I] she is. "There is nothing wrong with being discriminatory!" [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIQV9T_J-EU[/media] "How are immigrants making this country better even when they're [I]not[/I] blowing stuff up? Do we really need another push-cart operator?"[/QUOTE] Wow. She's a well liked personality? She wouldn't be on TV in the UK, that's a fucking disgrace.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40491676][video=youtube;YuF03PTNpp8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuF03PTNpp8[/video][/QUOTE] This is probably one of many reasons why I will never have a good understanding of politics.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40491676][video=youtube;YuF03PTNpp8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuF03PTNpp8[/video][/QUOTE] Yep, i love him now
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