[QUOTE=TheTailor25;35078655]Well, and this happens when their grandparents have incest sex, then their parent do the same, well, and they too.
[video=youtube;QLgsAfs6BP0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLgsAfs6BP0[/video][/QUOTE]
Oh god what the fuck I never realized incest could have those kinda effects. I knew there were some effects but jesus how can that kid live like that?
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;35078993]It's logical as in it's easier to talk about them as a group, when the majority has really strong presence, than to talk about every single individual. Grouping things is a natural function of the human brain.[/QUOTE]
a lot of us Jews used to be money lenders, so we were all grouped together as money-grubbing heebs
sorry I'd rather you address the problems as they come rather than lumping it all together
[QUOTE=Cone;35079025]So you mean it's easier to do that, rather than logical? Because if it were logical, you would accept that the people composing groups do not equal the groups themselves and don't really represent them enough for you to be able to safely judge the whole of them.[/QUOTE]
The thing with gypsy ethnicity is that the people composing the group represent the group enough. [I]Yes[/I], there are exceptions. [I]Yes[/I], there's plenty of them. People don't refer to those as "cigáni" (gypsies), though. The person of the race is called a "Róm", and is widely used in such manner.
You'll rarely, really rarely hear someone bash Romani people, or "Róm"s.
There's this language barrier working in favor of the problem, as english speaking countries only have one term for both variations, a "gypsy". That's as far as I know.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;35078682]double lol at A; how you people are such huge fucking racists and B; how you're completely oblivious to that fact.[/QUOTE]
I was wondering when you'll come up to shit up thread with thinking hating gypsies is racism.
[QUOTE=acds;35078995]Oh yeah they moved into town, illegally occupying a public place (and defending it with violence, you try to go in there and you'll see), stealing, stabbing and abducting and it's obviously our fault, even though no-one had ever even interacted with them before.
No-one is forcing them to move around and live of stealing, they do so of their own accord and teach their children to do the same (some break off and lead a normal life of course, but no-one has anything against those). They're nomads, it doesn't fit well with today's society and economical system, which leads to poverty, which leads to crime, but it's their choice to remain nomadic.
Also I don't care about your economic and social situation, it will never justify kidnapping children, locking them in cages by night and using them to steal by day (not saying all Gypsies do that, but it has happened, on several occasions).[/QUOTE]
This is best post. Couldn't have said it better.
All that history gone.
It hurts my soul.
These are the people that took the bronze plates off of that war memorial and sold them as scrap.
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;35079047]The thing with gypsy ethnicity is that the people composing the group represent the group enough.[/QUOTE]
Ethnicity is totally irellevant right now. The point is, you're judging groups based on select individuals that compose them. In fact, even those individuals would probably be a lot more eager to stop doing shit like this (assuming they even did in the first place) if you didn't assume they were all thieves.
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;35079101']These are the people that took the bronze plates off of that war memorial and sold them as scrap.[/QUOTE]
That's fucking terrible.
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;35078911]Judging individuals as a group is the logical thing for humans. There's just so many people of gypsy ethnicity that can't adapt to the ideas and views of the majority, the ones that have different views easily get burried underneath.[/QUOTE]
cool justification for racism bro
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;35078911]You obviously lack any inside view on this problem.[/QUOTE]
"if you only saw how these people acted you'd be racist just like me!"
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[QUOTE=BradB;35078930]Why do people always bring race into the discussion instead of just saying prejudiced in general. Now all we're going to have is a petty argument about semantics.[/QUOTE]
BECAUSE THIS DISCUSSION IS ABOUT RACE
[B]GYPSIES 2012[/B]
[QUOTE=Cone;35079107]Ethnicity is totally irellevant right now. The point is, you're judging groups based on select individuals that compose them. In fact, even those individuals would probably be a lot more eager to stop doing shit like this (assuming they even did in the first place) if you didn't assume they were all thieves.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever dealth with such person before? An individual like this blatanly doesn't care. He has very little idea of the concept of racism, ethnicity, and any political-well, anything.
I do agree that judging people based on the majority is not right. It seems useless to give this much weight when talking about those people, though. Even the well-living romani people will agree that the behaviour of the so called cigáns isn't right.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;35079073]All that history gone.
It hurts my soul.[/QUOTE]
you know what "hurts my soul" even more is the fact that the same attitudes that compel people to post nazi-lite rhetoric in this thread are responsible for one of the worst cases of systematic oppression of a racial group in the entire world.
Whats a gypsie?
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;35079115]That's fucking terrible.[/QUOTE]
no it's 90 cents
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that's enough for a cheap box of wine
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;35079152]
I do agree that judging people based on the majority is not right.[/QUOTE]
well then stop fucking justifying it
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;35079115]That's fucking terrible.[/QUOTE]
It is fucking terrible.
Alot of people fought for our country and sacrificed themselves for our freedom and they just come along and basically say a massive FUCK YOU and deface something like that.
This is the biggest reason i hate them, taking the ladder and the wheels on our cars i can get over but basically SHITTING on people who layed down their lives is unforgivable.
[img]http://www.marriedtothesea.com/101407/castle-on-fire.gif[/img]
Yeah ,a lot of gypsies here in Slovakia,people try to but they make it a really hard time for us to respect THEM.
And all of this for "lolitsdoshinit"
I'll be right back, i gotta smash something.
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MERGE
holy shit i cannot believe how extremely racist everyone in this thread is being without acknowledging that ahahahahaha oh my GOD
And then I was grateful that there aren't groups like this in the US. Seriously though, are there gypsies in the US?
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;35079190']It is fucking terrible.
Alot of people fought for our country and sacrificed themselves for our freedom and they just come along and basically say a massive FUCK YOU and deface something like that.
This is the biggest reason i hate them, taking the ladder and the wheels on our cars i can get over but basically SHITTING on people who layed down their lives is unforgivable.[/QUOTE]
no, I'm pretty sure the people who are continuing to propagate the sort of hate that made the nazis such a threat to the rest of europe are the ones who are shitting all over war memorials
(those people are you)
[QUOTE=ewitwins;35079231]And then I was grateful that there aren't groups like this in the US. Seriously though, are there gypsies in the US?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they're called [del]rednecks.[/del] hicks.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;35079231]And then I was grateful that there aren't groups like this in the US. Seriously though, are there gypsies in the US?[/QUOTE]
Unless I'm mistaken, very very few.
itt reddit taught me racism is bad even though I've never dealt with this concept before
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;35079246']Yeah, they're called rednecks.[/QUOTE]
Rednecks aren't even this bad. They're normally just bigots.
edit: fuck
Seriously, the language used in this thread to explain how people are not being racist is precisely the sort of shit that Southern Whites said about blacks in the US back in the 50s during Jim Crow, and what they continue to say about blacks in urban centers today. it's the same shit that a ton of europeans say about immigrant muslims (it is racism).
it's asinine.
[QUOTE=TheTailor25;35079247][IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428753_313142272079840_313076078753126_849020_122147742_n.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
"oh that poor castle" is say as I justify the sort of racial hatred that lead to the murder of a hundreds of thousands of roma in the holocaust.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;35079264]Rednecks aren't even this bad. They're normally just bigots.[/QUOTE]
you mean like the bigots that are all posting in this thread?
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;35079240]no, I'm pretty sure the people who are continuing to propagate the sort of hate that made the nazis such a threat to the rest of europe are the ones who are shitting all over war memorials
(those people are you)[/QUOTE]
What's your deal today? Were you saved by a gypsy as a small child or something? As an American I have a very outsider perspective on this, so are there any good incidents with Gypsies?
Also, if Romanian Gypsies are different than normal gypsies, that'd be awesome because I like Romanian Gypsy music.
I'm so ignorant on this :(
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