[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;35079514]Hardly anyone over here denies their opportunities based on their race. The company managers wouldn't hire a white person who is clearly irresponsible just as a black person.[/QUOTE]
ahahaahahahaaa
ahahahaha
there's a whole lot of white privilege going on in here
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;35079522]biggest lie of the century. employment discrimination exists everywhere.[/QUOTE]
Dude you're giving TH89 a run for his fucking money.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;35079523]poor people everywhere steal food. it's kinda necessary to, yknow, survive.
gov'ts that have proper welfare programs and create not only a web of support strong enough to sustain the poor but to bring them above poverty actually get to see reductions in stuff like that :~)
also there's the whole thing that minorities tend to be disproportionately prosecuted in courts (this does not just pertain to america)[/QUOTE]
They get free food every week, because they're unemployed.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;35079487]maybe if you and the rest of your society stopped being racist and denying them opportunities they wouldn't have to shoplift, eh?[/QUOTE]
They don't need to get jobs
They already live off of benefits.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;35079522]biggest lie of the century.[/QUOTE]
I think people affected by this problem have a little bit better view of what is happening here than the ones that never dealt with such person before. You calling lies is no argument.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;35079425]How are you oblivious to the fact that "its their fault we hate them" is the fucking central argument used by all racists everywhere since the dawn of time to justify their racism?[/QUOTE]
Because most if not all gypsies I've seen are dicks.
There was a news report about education for gypsies here in which a bunch of gypsies complained that they were being discriminated in schools. They spoke about how schools discriminate them by not giving them complete education because they were late all the time. They said they were robbed of their education while at the same time saying that they should be allowed to be late without the school acknowledging it or affecting their grades.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;35079540]Dude you're giving TH89 a run for his fucking money.[/QUOTE]
good. he was correct about literally everything he ever posted except for liking odd future
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[QUOTE=Eric95;35079549]Because most if not all [B]mexicans/blacks[/B] I've seen are [B]lazy/thieves[/B][/QUOTE]
Fixed yr. post for you.
[QUOTE=Eric95;35079549]
There was a news report about education for gypsies here in which a bunch of gypsies complained that they were being discriminated in schools. They spoke about how schools discriminate them by not giving them complete education because they were late all the time. They said they were robbed of their education while at the same time saying that they should be allowed to be late without the school acknowledging it or affecting their grades.[/QUOTE]
you ever think that maybe the news isn't telling you the whole story? you ever think that maybe the news is subject to the same prejudicial attitudes that we're seeing fill up this thread?
Some gypsies/travelers tried burning a forest behind my house down here. They also stole anything with metal on it that wasn't nailed down, and I caught some punk fifteen year old's trying to steal my car just a year ago.
I honestly don't give a fuck if I am "racist" about this, they are horrible.
[QUOTE=TheTailor25;35079541]They get free food every week, because they're unemployed.[/QUOTE]
food gets bartered away because of the fact that they have so little money.
i swear, a lot of you guys seem to think that people enjoy living like this. that's a rather dim outlook on human beings.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;35079535]ahahaahahahaaa
ahahahaha
there's a whole lot of white privilege going on in here[/QUOTE]
Now I am not saying there is no racism whatsoever here. Ignorant people are everywhere. I am talking in general - a well-groomed gypsy person is thought of the same way as any other well-groomed white person by the majority.
Also a friend I was doing the internship with absolutely hated gypsies because one stole his bike.
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;35079546]I think people affected by this problem have a little bit better view of what is happening here than the ones that never dealt with such person before. You calling lies is no argument.[/QUOTE]
Really? I had a friend who got his father's bar raided in an armed burglary.
The people who did that weren't nice. But assuming all Gypsies are like that is just so fucking asinine I can't even begin to fathom it.
Racism is such an overused word today, how about discrimination? What gypsies are and what they do, there are maybe 1-5% honest gypsies those who broke up from their group and live a different life, but those we speak about, they are simple criminals, they lie, they steal, sometimes kill, they live off your benefits, wreck places, they live in your country but they don't care and they don't obey the law.
[QUOTE=Eric95;35079549]Because most if not all gypsies I've seen are dicks.
There was a news report about education for gypsies here in which a bunch of gypsies complained that they were being discriminated in schools. They spoke about how schools discriminate them by not giving them complete education because they were late all the time. They said they were robbed of their education while at the same time saying that they should be allowed to be late without the school acknowledging it or affecting their grades.[/QUOTE]
oh hey look one of the exact arguments that was discounted by whites during segregation! awesome! :]
[QUOTE=Cone;35079581]Really? I had a friend who got his father's bar raided in an armed burglary.
The people who did that weren't nice. But assuming all Gypsies are like that is just so fucking asinine I can't even begin to fathom it.[/QUOTE]
I am not saying [I]all [/I]the gypsies are the same. The majority [I]is[/I], though. That's a fact.
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;35079573]Now I am not saying there is no racism whatsoever here. Ignorant people are everywhere. I am talking in general - a well-groomed gypsy person is thought of the same way as any other well-groomed white person by the majority.[/QUOTE]
how do you know this? are you just assuming?
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;35079570]food gets bartered away because of the fact that they have so little money.
i swear, a lot of you guys seem to think that people enjoy living like this. that's a rather dim outlook on human beings.[/QUOTE]
Then what's with their fancy ass clothes
[QUOTE=Appolox;35079585]there are maybe 1-5% honest gypsies
[/QUOTE]
no, you made this fucking number up.
This has taken a turn for the highly entertaining.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;35079586]oh hey look one of the exact arguments that was discounted by whites during segregation! awesome! :][/QUOTE]
Were black people at the time complaining about how they should be allowed to be late to school all the time without it affecting their grades?
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;35079597]how do you know this? are you just assuming?[/QUOTE]
No, I am talking from experience.
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;35079573]Now I am not saying there is no racism whatsoever here. Ignorant people are everywhere. I am talking in general - a well-groomed gypsy person is thought of the same way as any other well-groomed white person by the majority.[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to avoid taking an extreme side because I don't want to be dragged into this argument too much, but if you're saying the general opinion of gypsies in europe is that of a criminal underclass, how can there not be discrimination in the workplace? If I saw a guy who was part of a group that was generally despised in England I would definitely think twice about hiring him, even if he was well-groomed and polite
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;35079487]maybe if you and the rest of your society stopped being racist and denying them opportunities they wouldn't have to shoplift, eh?[/QUOTE]
we don't deny them opportunities, they refuse to take them (ones that benefit them, and as a whole, everyone else)
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;35079605]no, you made this fucking number up.[/QUOTE]
Because those were the gypsies I knew from the area I lived, they actually had work, did not see many kids either.
He's actually right. You can't blame crime on the fact that they're gypsies, you have to blame all the criminal shit that goes down because of they're social environment. They're poor and live in slums because the majority thinks that because they are poor and steal they won't give them proper housing, education or employment, so they stay poor and live in slums. It's a cycle.
And yeah, discrimination against gypsies exists and it's called antizyganism, look it up. The reason that they are all over Europe is because they get routinely kicked out of certain countries and them move onto others. The solution is not to keep kicking them out, but to fight the problem from the root. It IS a political problem, because with correct social policies gypsies wouldn't be living in substandard conditions, substandard compared of course to the relatively homogeneous demographics of Europe.
[QUOTE=Charybdis;35079626]we don't deny them opportunities, they refuse to take them (ones that benefit them, and as a whole, everyone else)[/QUOTE]
An example of this is when that council gave them free houses but they ripped out the radiators and kept their horses in them.
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;35079594]I am not saying [I]all [/I]the gypsies are the same. The majority [I]is[/I], though. That's a fact.[/QUOTE]
So can I get any statistical evidence, or...?
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;35079650']An example of this is when that council gave them free houses but they ripped out the radiators and kept their horses in them.[/QUOTE]
That's because you don't have to give them free shit, you have to give them equal opportunities. In fact, stop giving them free shit as a whole, gifts only make parasitic societies, like the boliburgueses in Venezuela.
I hope you all realize that when someone says Gypsy they mean the thieving kind.
Otherwise they are seen as someone from Romania or whatever because people can't give less of a shit about someones nationality.
I call the thieving kind pikeys.
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