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[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789813]I don't support all of Trump's policies.[/QUOTE] Newsflash: when you voted for him you voted for the whole package, not parts of it. I don't have to tell you how senseless that is. You just did the political equivalent of a curate's egg here.
I don't even think she is a particularly bright person, and I'm not denying that the $200 mil was a factor in her nomination. But I think she will be a good conduit through which Trump can implement his education reforms.
Damn Crooked Hillary and her cronyism and nepotism!
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789838]I don't even think she is a particularly bright person, and I'm not denying that the $200 mil was a factor in her nomination. But I think she will be a good conduit through which Trump can implement his education reforms.[/QUOTE] I'm sure Donald "fake university" Trump knows what's best for the education sector.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789838]I don't even think she is a particularly bright person, and I'm not denying that the $200 mil was a factor in her nomination. But I think she will be a good conduit through which Trump can implement his education reforms.[/QUOTE] So what's trumps plan for education reform?
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789838]I don't even think she is a particularly bright person, and I'm not denying that the $200 mil was a factor in her nomination. But I think she will be a good conduit through which Trump can implement his education reforms.[/QUOTE] "This person isn't qualified for this position and she paid her way into it but eh it's fine"
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51789837]Newsflash: when you voted for him you voted for the whole package, not parts of it. I don't have to tell you how senseless that is. You just did the political equivalent of a curate's egg here.[/QUOTE] That's not how it works. You pick the candidate you agree with more, and vote for them. If you voted for Hillary did you vote for her aggressive foreign policy? Probably not, but you thought she was the better option among the two.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789838]I don't even think she is a particularly bright person, and I'm not denying that the $200 mil was a factor in her nomination. But I think she will be a good conduit through which Trump can implement his education reforms.[/QUOTE] So you're cool with pay to play politics?
[QUOTE=Llamaguy;51789850]So you're cool with pay to play politics?[/QUOTE] Nope. But I'm not buying the idea that she is solely motivated by money.
Pantz Master I'll repeat again: Why doesn't she just tackle the issue public schools face instead of going in for charter schools? Improve the schools where the majority of pre-college students go?
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789848]That's not how it works. You pick the candidate you agree with more, and vote for them. If you voted for Hillary did you vote for her aggressive foreign policy? Probably not, but you thought she was the better option among the two.[/QUOTE] Trump suggested starting a war with Iran over them saying mean things and his chief strategist is openly advocating for war with China but [i]Hillary[/i] was the one with 'aggressive' foreign policy?
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789848]That's not how it works. You pick the candidate you agree with more, and vote for them. If you voted for Hillary did you vote for her aggressive foreign policy? Probably not, but you thought she was the better option among the two.[/QUOTE] but that's wrong though. if you vote for someone, you vote for all their policies. you might not have voted for them [I]because[/I] of all their policies, but you still had a direct influence on the implementation of everything, not just what you agree with
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789854]Nope. But I'm not buying the idea that she is solely motivated by money.[/QUOTE] We all want to believe a lot of things, but life isn't a fairy tale is it?
so we have bannon that's the emperor, DeVos for Dravos, who's next in the legion of doom? a lex luthor, vortimont, star treks kahn?
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789854]Nope. But I'm not buying the idea that she is solely motivated by money.[/QUOTE] Bro. The question isn't about HER being motivated by money. The issue is SHE PAID FOR THE NOMINATION and the GOP ACCEPTS IT and allowed an UNQUALIFIED PERSON into the backbone of our nation's youth. Can you not see the fucking issue here?!
[QUOTE=CatFodder;51789858]Trump suggested starting a war with Iran over them saying mean things and his chief strategist is openly advocating for war with China but [i]Hillary[/i] was the one with 'aggressive' foreign policy.[/QUOTE] This isn't about Hillary. I merely used her as an example because she was the other choice this election.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789848]That's not how it works. You pick the candidate you agree with more, and vote for them. If you voted for Hillary did you vote for her aggressive foreign policy? Probably not, but you thought she was the better option among the two.[/QUOTE] You still had an influence in the implementing of the shitty policies as well as the good ones. And in an election with two shiny turds, I supported the turd that smelled less.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789838]I don't even think she is a particularly bright person, and I'm not denying that the $200 mil was a factor in her nomination. But I think she will be a good conduit through which Trump can implement his education reforms.[/QUOTE] "This person isn't qualified for the position, she obviously bought her way into the position, but she's on our side so that's what counts!" Not everything should be about dumb partisan shit. This woman is an objectively shit choice for the position. The fact she paid her way into it [b] reeks[/b] of nepotism and corruption, I don't care what [i]side[/i] she's on, this is always a bad thing.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789710]I'm sure she will have plenty of qualified educators around herself to advise. It's her policies that count in my opinion.[/QUOTE] What is a policy without qualification? What's most amazing to me is the fact that this was a 50-50 tie, with [I]all Democrats[/I] and two Republicans voting against her, and the tie being broken with an unprecedented VP vote. It couldn't possibly have been more conflicted.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51789868]You still had an influence in the implementing of the shitty policies as well as the good ones. And in an election with two shiny turds, I supported the turd that smelled less.[/QUOTE] If Hillary had won and put ground troops in Syria, I wouldn't blame you.
[QUOTE=froztshock;51789844]So what's trumps plan for education reform?[/QUOTE]
Thank God I'm not having a kid anytime soon while this administration fucks America.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789838]I don't even think she is a particularly bright person, and I'm not denying that the $200 mil was a factor in her nomination. But I think she will be a good conduit through which Trump can implement his education reforms.[/QUOTE] Do you have a single scrap of logical thought to support this
[QUOTE=Waffle cones.;51789889]I can't begin to imagine how many mental gymnastics you would have to put yourself through to consider this a good thing, even as a Trump suppoerter. She quite literally bought her way into power? Isn't that the type of crooked behavior that caused people to vote for "anti-establishment" Trump?[/QUOTE] He'll drain the swamp! Pay no attention to the bribery behind the curtain! [editline]7th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Llamaguy;51789866]Bro. The question isn't about HER being motivated by money. The issue is SHE PAID FOR THE NOMINATION and the GOP ACCEPTS IT and allowed an UNQUALIFIED PERSON into the backbone of our nation's youth. Can you not see the fucking issue here?![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789872]I don't even think she is a particularly bright person, and I'm not denying that the $200 mil was a factor in her nomination. But I think she will be a good conduit through which Trump can implement his education reforms..[/QUOTE] Trump is a successful businessman. He's a brand that is successful in all sense of the word. Let me ask you something and hope you don't run away. You say that DeVos will hopefully be a conduit to Trump's successful education policies. Can you summarize why the last time Trump had a hand in education, it failed in a spectacular manner? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9lXsCWL.png[/IMG] [img]http://i.imgur.com/IRc7k36.png[/img] I'm just curious, you seem to have all the answers and like a good scholar, I'd like to be educated. I left in some "decent" articles about his university, just to let you know I don't cherrypick like you, do you own a farm by any chance?
It's amazing really, the republicans are in office for only a few weeks and they're already moving full speed to sell the american people out to corporate interests. That's some fucking dedication right there, very efficient.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51789646]This is a good day for America. Sessions will be another step up.[/QUOTE] Your confirmation bias is so strong I can smell it from here.
[QUOTE=Waffle cones.;51789889]I can't begin to imagine how many mental gymnastics you would have to put yourself through to consider this a good thing, even as a Trump suppoerter. She quite literally bought her way into power. Isn't that the type of crooked behavior that caused people to vote for "anti-establishment" Trump?[/QUOTE] I remember that video with Bernie and Warren where she didn't know shit about the department she is going to lead. Pisses me off that we could have gotten someone better than her.
[QUOTE=Kagu;51789904]Trump is a successful businessman. He's a brand that is successful in all sense of the word. Let me ask you something and hope you don't run away. You say that DeVos will hopefully be a conduit to Trump's successful education policies. Can you summarize why the last time Trump had a hand in education, it failed in a ball of flame? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9lXsCWL.png[/IMG] [img]http://i.imgur.com/IRc7k36.png[/img] I'm just curious, you seem to have all the answers and like a good scholar, I'd like to be educated. I left in some "decent" articles about his university, just to let you know I don't cherrypick like you, do you own a farm by any chance?[/QUOTE] You see though, that's all fake news. /s
[QUOTE=Kagu;51789904]Trump is a successful businessman. He's a brand that is successful in all sense of the word. Let me ask you something and hope you don't run away. You say that DeVos will hopefully be a conduit to Trump's successful education policies. Can you summarize why the last time Trump had a hand in education, it failed in a ball of flame? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9lXsCWL.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IRc7k36.png[/IMG] I'm just curious, you seem to have all the answers and like a good scholar, I'd like to be educated.[/QUOTE] Trump University has nothing to do with his plans for the US education system. It was a dumb, half scam, self-help seminar type thing. And I don't claim to "have all the answers".
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