The poor 'just don't want health care': Republican congressman faces backlash over comments
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It's always painful to see American politicians talk about god and Jesus in such a way. If anyone did that here, there would be a collective mental facepalm by everyone else. We actually have a 'Christian Democrat Party' here, but they usually only get 1-2% of the first preference votes at each election.
[QUOTE=sgman91;51944568]Contrary to that claim, emergency room visits rose after the passing and application of Obamacare. I'm sure the type of person being mentioned by Mr. Marshall is part of the reason (along with other factors like not having enough primary doctors).[/QUOTE]
Wait, what? How does people who don't take care of themselves having better access to healthcare -that they don't use anyway- somehow increase the number of ER visits? Worst case scenario, they don't make use of the available healthcare and the amount of ER visits stays the same, all things otherwise equal.
Your reasoning just makes no sense.
Are all republicans retarded? I'm sensing a theme here
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;51945794]Are all republicans retarded? I'm sensing a theme here[/QUOTE]
The GOP is the party of the rich. They're so unconnected with the poor and the middle class because their entire understanding of wealth is "If you work hard, you get rich." which has only been true during the stone age.
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;51945794]Are all republicans retarded? I'm sensing a theme here[/QUOTE]
To be fair, its not all Republicans. Even in politics, folks like mcCain aren't too disconnected, but for the reat of us, there are plenty of Republicans that are irritated at what is happening, including some on this forum.
The main problem is the GOP as a whole
[QUOTE=Rossy167;51944707]Nobody likes paying taxes, it's just every other country in the world understands taxes are needed for things like a police force, schools, roads and national healthc... oh yeah. Seriously though, do you Libertarians think all the public services that the economy they live in requires to function just exist by magic?[/QUOTE]
Our libertarian party wants to abolish income tax. So yes, they probably do think it exists through magic.
[QUOTE=da space core;51945915]To be fair, its not all Republicans. Even in politics, folks like mcCain aren't too disconnected, but for the reat of us, there are plenty of Republicans that are irritated at what is happening, including some on this forum.
The main problem is the GOP as a whole[/QUOTE]
McCain still follows the party line entirely though, despite his seemingly more rational positions
Right, yes, I do not want health care as I am poor and cannot afford it. I will take my rusty metal bones and sweep away into the junk pile.
[QUOTE=_Axel;51945454]Wait, what? How does people who don't take care of themselves having better access to healthcare -that they don't use anyway- somehow increase the number of ER visits? Worst case scenario, they don't make use of the available healthcare and the amount of ER visits stays the same, all things otherwise equal.
Your reasoning just makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
The theory was that giving people access to a normal doctor and preventative care would decrease the number of emergency visits people would need to do. What actually happened is that giving people healthcare gave them the ability to go to the emergency room for lesser ailments.
[QUOTE=sgman91;51947455]The theory was that giving people access to a normal doctor and preventative care would decrease the number of emergency visits people would need to do. What actually happened is that giving people healthcare gave them the ability to go to the emergency room for lesser ailments.[/QUOTE]
Considering the horror stories of Americans ignoring or attempting to treat at home serious injuries because they simply cannot afford an ER visit, there was never any chance that making healthcare more available would reduce the number of emergency visits.
[QUOTE=sgman91;51947455]The theory was that giving people access to a normal doctor and preventative care would decrease the number of emergency visits people would need to do. What actually happened is that giving people healthcare gave them the ability to go to the emergency room for lesser ailments.[/QUOTE]
I understand that explanation, but that has nothing to do with people who "don't want" or use healthcare, in fact it's the opposite, it's due to people who make use of it but don't use the proper channels.
Also "lesser ailments" may still warrant an ER visit considering people in the US are reluctant to go to the hospital for actual legit reasons. Unless people go to the ER because of headaches that doesn't seem like a huge problem to me. Hospital personnel can still redirect them to non emergency sections anyway.
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