Michael Moore: Obama will be remembered as first black president, ‘and that’s it’
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[QUOTE]Let it be known that Michael Moore is not a fan of President Obama.
In a new interview with The Hollywood Reporter from the Toronto International Film Festival, the Academy-Award winning director was asked about the current state of Detroit and from there, dissects what the president’s legacy will be. His prognosis? Not great.
“I think Obama…he’s done many, many good things,” he said. “But he’s been a huge disappointment. I really think somebody should say to him, that when the history is written of this era, this is how you’ll be remembered. He was the first black president. That’s it. A hundred years from now, he was the first black American that got elected president. That’s what people will remember.”
For those that know and follow Moore’s work, his blunt analysis shouldn’t come to much surprise. And the interview does provide a source of Moore’s frustration: the way Obama handled Detroit and the auto industry. “Detroit would stand a better chance if they were an Iraqi or Syrian city in terms of getting help,” he said.
Moore was on hand in Toronto to celebrate the 25th anniversary of his debut documentary “Roger & Me,” which examined the economic impact in Flint, Mich. after then General Motors CEO Roger Smith closed auto plants in the late ’80s. The film premiered at the film festival in 1989, where it won the prestigious “People’s Choice” award and launched Moore’s career.
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[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/10/michael-moore-obama-will-be-remembered-first-black/[/url]
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he's probably right, the political climate has been shit for so long
How about "That asshole who constantly failed to do anything about privacy invading, out of control intelligence agencies, despite public outcry"?
Thank Obama for saving our country from a Republican created SECOND GREAT DEPRESSION.
One could argue Obamacare, but LBJ is not exactly celebrated for the Great Society either.
I'd like to argue against what he says because of all Obama has done, but a lot of his good accomplishments are not that memorable.
[QUOTE=joshjet;45948226]How about "That asshole who constantly failed to do anything about privacy invading, out of control intelligence agencies, despite public outcry"?[/QUOTE]
"public outcry"
I get Moore's perspective but that's a dumb thing to say. He also passed national healthcare, and will be remembered as an excellent speaker.
[QUOTE=Lick;45948289]I get Moore's perspective but that's a dumb thing to say. He also passed national healthcare, and will be remembered as an excellent speaker.[/QUOTE]
Obamacare was gutted [i]hard[/i] and its disembowelment will be a monument to the partisanship that's plagued the administration.
[QUOTE=sYnced;45948267]Thank Obama for saving our country from a Republican created SECOND GREAT DEPRESSION.[/QUOTE]
How'd he exactly save it? Our economy for the most part is barely making by and we had a second major stock crash in 2011. The only thing that's going to save this country in terms of financial well being is higher minimum wage and every state being forced to have a state bank that requires all types of loans and other transactions be ran through it to prevent braindeads from taking loans out of their ass, and never paying them back.
He has done quite a bit.. I'd list it, but I'm on my phone.
Scrapping "Don't ask, don't tell" was one.
Just you wait until you guys elect some asshole to the office and you wish to have Obama back.
[QUOTE=Buck.;45948474]Just you wait until you guys elect some asshole to the office and you wish to have Obama back.[/QUOTE]
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Always the truth regarding elections in this country.. :v:
[QUOTE=Clovis;45948462]In reality how well are we going to remember Clinton and Bush in 300 years time[/QUOTE]
42nd and 43rd
[QUOTE=Clovis;45948462]In reality how well are we going to remember Clinton, Gore and Bush in 300 years time? And what for?[/QUOTE]
Well Bush gets 9/11, war on terror, and economic collapse.
Well, look at it at the good side, he's got a LoL champ for him.
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[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;45948437]How'd he exactly save it? Our economy for the most part is barely making by and we had a second major stock crash in 2011. The only thing that's going to save this country in terms of financial well being is higher minimum wage and every state being forced to have a state bank that requires all types of loans and other transactions be ran through it to prevent braindeads from taking loans out of their ass, and never paying them back.[/QUOTE]
you are forgetting obama stepped into office with the nation plummeting in recession. bush destroyed the economy and took the money from the poor and gave it to the rich.
I'm still glad I voted for Obama. We didn't need Palin and we didn't need another businessman that'd cater to his friend's interests.
Yeah probably, but I'll always remember him for his charm and the adorable way he's getting more and more tired as his dual term draws on.
[QUOTE=sYnced;45948595]you are forgetting obama stepped into office with the nation plummeting in recession. bush destroyed the economy and took the money from the poor and gave it to the rich.[/QUOTE]
Bush tax system was full retard but it's not "stealing from the poor and giving to the rich" reverse-robinhood style.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45948315]He passed a piss poor excuse for national healthcare. The ACA is a massive joke, a shell of what it should have been. Instead we got played right into the insurance companies hands, now it's straight up "illegal" to not have health insurance. We're literally the only first world nation without a nationalised healthcare system, hell, even some DEVELOPING nations have nationalised healthcare.[/QUOTE]
switzerland?
[QUOTE=Qwerty Bastard;45948605]Yeah probably, but I'll always remember him for his charm and the adorable way he's getting more and more tired as his dual term draws on.[/QUOTE]
I even have the feeling that Obama isn't as patrioticly fuckwad as Bush.
Fuck you, I like Obama.
Thanks Obama.
He'll be remembered by a bunch of memes like 'Thanks Obama' and 'Change' and those racist muslim ones.
Bush will be remembered because of 9/11 and because of Bushism.
[QUOTE=sYnced;45948267]Thank Obama for saving our country from a Republican created SECOND GREAT DEPRESSION.[/QUOTE]
Obama did not save the country from anything. The market is about to correct/crash. Need proof? Look at the recent investment activities of people like George Soros. You'll notice that all of the big players are moving their money into safer investments, and also moving their money into investments that will make them money when the market corrects/crashes. These people didn't become wealthy by being dumb.
But it's not just Obama's fault. Bush did the same thing. All it's doing is putting off the inevitable. All these stimulus packages (including the 2 under Bush) are nothing but band-aids over the real problem. The recession never ended. We've just been using tax dollars to prop up an over-inflated economy. Nothing more, nothing less.....
[QUOTE=sYnced;45948595]you are forgetting obama stepped into office with the nation plummeting in recession. bush destroyed the economy and took the money from the poor and gave it to the rich.[/QUOTE]
Bush didn't "destroy the economy". Bad lending practices and investments destroyed the economy.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;45948611]Bush tax system was full retard but it's not "stealing from the poor and giving to the rich" reverse-robinhood style.[/QUOTE]
His second stimulus package literally was funneling tax money into the stock market to try and prevent it from crashing. It was stealing from the poor and giving to the rich. After the first stimulus attempt (payroll tax cuts) failed to do much, he tried it a different way the next time (propping up the stock market). Obama's stimulus package was the same style as the first failed Bush stimulus package.
[QUOTE=sYnced;45948595]you are forgetting obama stepped into office with the nation plummeting in recession. bush destroyed the economy and took the money from the poor and gave it to the rich.[/QUOTE]
And yet we whitewash a prick like Biden for effectively being Dick C 2.0
It's something weird that I noticed, but in this side of the world we seem to like Obama way more than you do.
[QUOTE=lapsus_;45948718]It's something weird that I noticed, but in this side of the world we seem to like Obama way more than you do.[/QUOTE]
He's a really good diplomat but in terms of domestic action he's a bit of a wet blanket, and I don't even know what that means.
[QUOTE=Qwerty Bastard;45948745]He's a really good diplomat but in terms of domestic action he's a bit of a wet blanket, and I don't even know what that means.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't call a failed foreign policy a result of a "good diplomat".
Russia is rolling around Ukraine, Iraq is in near complete collapse, all the moderates we decided to throw our cards in with in the Arab Spring have bailed out or turned out to be worse than we thought. Syria crossed the dreaded "red line" and nothing happened. And now ISIS is spreading like a cancer in the middle east and the most we're going to do is drop a few bombs and yell how we did something about it.
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I guess the economy is a bit better, but it's not like Obama himself managed to do that all. But he's definitely leaving office in a world that's more politically unstable both internationally and domestically.
[QUOTE=Clovis;45948462]In reality how well are we going to remember Clinton, Gore and Bush in 300 years time? And what for?[/QUOTE]
It's weird. In a hundred or so years, in the history textbooks there will be like one chapter on this part of American history flipped through by bored ass students. It won't even be interesting, all we get is very confusing muddy shitty wars and economic issues. Hell, even 9/11, I dunno, will they still care? Oh, sure, it seems weird to us that they wouldn't, but I mean, how much do you give a shit about the Titanic or whatever?
The future is going to be weird, man.
Obama's definitely going to be one of the names you remember though, like Lincoln, Jefferson, or whoever. He's pretty god damn significant as a president even if you only count the fact that he's a black dude.
[QUOTE=lapsus_;45948718]It's something weird that I noticed, but in this side of the world we seem to like Obama way more than you do.[/QUOTE]
Quite the same happens here. Mostly because our country envies an at least decent democratic leader rather than still living in the Franco's Dictatorship 2.0.
I had a dream once where I got trapped in a foam hot dog suit (I did a lot of drugs) and when I climbed out it was the future, a hundred years from now. There was some comedian on the flying TV thing that was following me around trying to get me to have a sex change and buy AUTHENTIC!!! Swiss watches, and he basically started a huge trend of racist jokes by using Obama's presidency as material. This was apparently a big deal because people aren't racist in the future so it was extra ~edgy~ so yeah.
I'm not saying that's going to happen because that was a drug-fueled dream where I time traveled using the powers of "I'm too high to figure out how to escape from a costume" and using that to predict the future is dumb. I am saying that the idea of Obama's failed presidency potentially being the source material for a lot of terrible racist jokes in the future probably isn't too outlandish.
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