• "Expert on intellectual property" is scared people would, indeed, download a car
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[QUOTE=and;37869080]Because we all know how well printing a functional engine block out of molded plastic would go. They can start worrying once we figure out how to print metal. Oh wait, what are CNC machines again?[/QUOTE] Funny you should bring this up. My uncle works for GM or Ford, I can't recall, as a 3D printer technician, writing manuals and whatnot. This is exactly what they do. 3D printers, especially the non-commercially-available incredibly expensive ones are capable of printing fully working machinery. There's a wide variety of materials they can print with, and entire complex mechanisms can be made. I was reading about a guy who made a functioning AR-15 with a 3D printer.
[QUOTE=and;37869080]Because we all know how well printing a functional engine block out of molded plastic would go. They can start worrying once we figure out how to print metal. Oh wait, what are CNC machines again?[/QUOTE] As someone very experienced in both 3D printing and CNC steel milling, it's not really that easy. CNC parts take a long time to drill, the bits break often, and the software is glitchy at times (what's that? make my origin 20 feet to the left of the actual part? let me go right ahead). I could probably make some specialty parts for myself if I had to, but I'm not going to be making an engine any time soon. They cast those for a reason. It's not just strength, pouring liquid metal into a mold gives you [I]way[/I] more freedom than a CNC machine ever will, because you don't have to have room for the actual tool bits. 3D printing removes some of this, but at the end of the day, plastic isn't as strong as metal and even the metal stintering machines (fused metal powder) aren't perfect. There's a [I]long [/I]way to go before any of us are going to download a car.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;37869105]How on Earth could you download a car, I can understand downloading a single car part so you don't have to fix a certain aspect but an entire car? You'd have to actually make the entire car so the whole process is a bit... well, useless.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that buying the materials yourself, buying the equipment, fabricating and assembling it would cost much, much more than just buying the damn thing. Not to mention all the wiring harnesses and hundreds of miscellaneous devices you'd have to buy that you can't fabricate.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];37874536']Funny you should bring this up. My uncle works for GM or Ford, I can't recall, as a 3D printer technician, writing manuals and whatnot. This is exactly what they do. 3D printers, especially the non-commercially-available incredibly expensive ones are capable of printing fully working machinery. There's a wide variety of materials they can print with, and entire complex mechanisms can be made. I was reading about a guy who made a functioning AR-15 with a 3D printer.[/QUOTE] He actually only made some parts that were otherwise illegal to purchase, then he bought the parts that were legal, and put it together.
It'll be a fucking tragedy if 3d printing technology is squashed because of copyright assholes.
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;37874719]As someone very experienced in both 3D printing and CNC steel milling, it's not really that easy. CNC parts take a long time to drill, the bits break often, and the software is glitchy at times (what's that? make my origin 20 feet to the left of the actual part? let me go right ahead). I could probably make some specialty parts for myself if I had to, but I'm not going to be making an engine any time soon. They cast those for a reason. It's not just strength, pouring liquid metal into a mold gives you [I]way[/I] more freedom than a CNC machine ever will, because you don't have to have room for the actual tool bits. 3D printing removes some of this, but at the end of the day, plastic isn't as strong as metal and even the metal stintering machines (fused metal powder) aren't perfect. There's a [I]long [/I]way to go before any of us are going to download a car.[/QUOTE] Well most body bits could be replaced with a lightweight yet strong plastic compound, but the chassis itself, engine & drivetrain, suspension & brakes and so on can't be printed. Lotus [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Elise"]Elise[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Europa_S"]Europa S[/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Exige"]Exige[/URL] comes to mind.
The ability to download a model vagina will kill the world
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I am gonna download...... ..... ZE CITADEL
[QUOTE=Novangel;37869099]DRM on cars?[/QUOTE] must be connected to EA servers to start, engine stops if a packet drops, fuck it if you're a cop chasing criminals or anything
Horribly misleading title. The expert on intellectual property is not scared that people would download a car. He is scared that when they do, the car manufacturers flip their shit and start a war against 3d printers.
All 3D printing will do is change the IP war into designs and not products. Products won't have meaning anymore. Service won't be about doing something for you, but paying someone to make it more convenient.
[QUOTE=sparky28000;37869118]Fuck downloading cars. I want to download guns![/QUOTE] Probably be easier to 3D print a gun than a car, that's for fucking sure
[QUOTE=lolo;37873886]Downloading c4. Arrested for terrorism[/QUOTE] Wouldn't you actually need all the required chemicals before the printer could assemble it for you?
[QUOTE=Falchion;37882089]Wouldn't you actually need all the required chemicals before the printer could assemble it for you?[/QUOTE] Print the chemicals, DUH
Psh, i mean there's no manual labor and the people still have to pay for the materials so.. What's wrong with this? If there are user made cars downloaded, yes they may be a danger, but they have to go through some sort of DMV type-thing to deem it street legal.. I honestly don't see the problem.
[QUOTE=Falchion;37882089]Wouldn't you actually need all the required chemicals before the printer could assemble it for you?[/QUOTE] Eventually we may have the capacity to create objects from pure energy. At that point, materials merely become a question of energy. This also means that California will not be achieving this anytime soon.
I'm going to download a crate of dragon dildos and nobody can stop me!
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;37883924]Eventually we may have the capacity to create objects from pure energy. At that point, materials merely become a question of energy. This also means that California will not be achieving this anytime soon.[/QUOTE] Or, on a lower level of futuristic technology, molecular assemblers that can use specially guided chemical reactions to turn a set of basic chemicals into any other chemicals you have the elements for. It would still take energy, but not E = MC^2 energy.
You guys debate over it too much - just use it to print a solution to piracy and copyright infringement.
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