That sounds horrible. That guy is going to have a shitty life. I'd rather die than have my dick cut off. Even though I've never had a girlfriend/sex. :tinfoil:
[QUOTE=Chernobyl426;42843640]Never heard of dick cheese like do any of you bath[/QUOTE]
Normal, healthy women with intact labia get smegma just like males with intact penises. It's a beneficial, natural secretion that helps keep the genitals lubricated. It's transparent and mostly odorless unless it's allowed to build up - then it gains its infamous cheesy consistency and grossness. You really do have to allow it to build up though, because it's not hard to keep your genitals clean.
[QUOTE=benbb;42843897]That sounds horrible. That guy is going to have a shitty life. I'd rather die than have my dick cut off. Even though I've never had a girlfriend/sex. :tinfoil:[/QUOTE]
On one note, he would have no idea what its like to have a dick. On the other side, what would happen if he ever had a girlfriend/boyfriend? Penetration is hardly the end-all be-all for sex let alone a relationship but it will be pretty awkward to say "oh I'm sorry, I don't have a penis".
[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;42840586]I wouldn't call the skin rough or wrinkled or anything, but elbow skin is the closest word I could think of. The pigment and coloration of the skin has often in my experience been similar to an elbow, with some patches lighter and darker (usually lighter approaching the head, a bit dark approaching where the skin was cut etc.)
I would definitely not say the ones I have had experience with are as smooth as a uncircumcised penis, though. This goes mainly for the head, but the upper shaft, where there is a lack of skin, tends to have had a lot more contact with fabrics than that of a uncircumcised man. This leads to the aforementioned slight discoloration, and leaves the skin being a bit harder or rougher.
The glans/head itself is actually a lot less smooth for the vast majority of circumcised males, which is what leads to the perceived lack of stimulation. I believe the term is Keratinised?
But yeah, I meant elbow skin more as a indication of discoloration and not the physical wrinklyness.
Also, the "wrinkly foreskin" becomes a non issue for a lot of men when erect, as the foreskin is pulled taut etc. I've seen uncircumcised men that appear almost circumcised when fully erect, but without the discolored glans or slightly scarred shaft. That being said, scarring is apparently not all that common, but the majority of circumcised shlongs I've had the good fortune of seeing have had it to some small extent.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://24.media.tumblr.com/ed36cf9b3bdd06fc34a62358ecb06ae7/tumblr_mit1kdFG5d1s57qeco1_400.png"]This is what he's talking about[/URL] (nsfw)
In short, what he was trying to say was that a cut dick is left permanently exposed and so the normally sensitive head naturally calluses over and becomes harder in order to protect itself. As he gracefully put it, "elbow skin." This is more obvious in some individuals and less so in others. But there's definitely a difference. Uncircumcised heads are generally smoother, lubricated and more sensitive because they retain their protective foreskin covering.
[QUOTE=Furioso;42843873]how would you feel if you had your labia lopped off without your consent when you were born?
They actually do this in some parts of the world. The west refers to it as "genital mutilation" and not a "common surgical procedure"
How fucking droll[/QUOTE]
Nice try, but did you even read what I said? I was questioning DeeCeeTeeBee's post about it being "potentially harmful to them and their future relationships", thinking that it was a bit of an exaggerated statement because whilst, yes there are still potential risks, and even more so because it's taking an unnecessary risk, if the surgery goes correctly (as it does 499/500 times, I think?) I do not see how it affects the person negatively in any way.
But more importantly, I also quite plainly said that I agree that it should be the choice of the person i.e. not his parents or any other person, so you asking me how I would feel about having my labia "lopped off without my consent" is completely irrelevant, good job!
[QUOTE=Autumn;42844122]Nice try, but did you even read what I said? I was questioning DeeCeeTeeBee's post about it being "potentially harmful to them and their future relationships", thinking that it was a bit of an exaggerated statement because whilst, yes there are still potential risks, and even more so because it's taking an unnecessary risk, if the surgery goes correctly (as it does 499/500 times, I think?) I do not see how it affects the person negatively in any way.
But more importantly, I also quite plainly said that I agree that it should be the choice of the person i.e. not his parents or any other person, so you asking me how I would feel about having my labia "lopped off without my consent" is completely irrelevant, good job![/QUOTE]
To be honest I should have quoted a different post but mainly I was just trying to illustrate a point of my own. In hindsight the quoting seems unnecessary and the way I went about that was pretty shitty to you so for that I do apologize.
It really does affect them negatively, though, and the thing is they'll never know it because they've never experienced being uncircumcised. Not only have they lost tons of nerve endings and consequently a great deal of sensitivity, they've lost a beneficial structure that provides constant protection and lubrication. I'd say that's a pretty negative impact
Really wish circumcising babies was illegal, barring important medical issues. If they really want to do it, they can get it done at an age where they can make the decision without being affected by parental pressure.
It's stupid that I was circumcised, just to turn out non-religious anyway. It's the kids dick. It doesn't matter what the parents want; it's the kid who's going to have to live with having a chunk lopped off their dick, not them.
Especially in an age where the youth is increasingly becoming non-religious despite having religious parents, this shit needs to stop
Don't the hospitals sell the foreskins to Pharmaceutical and Cosmetic companies or something?
[QUOTE=Autumn;42844122]Nice try, but did you even read what I said? I was questioning DeeCeeTeeBee's post about it being "potentially harmful to them and their future relationships", thinking that it was a bit of an exaggerated statement because whilst, yes there are still potential risks, and even more so because it's taking an unnecessary risk, if the surgery goes correctly (as it does 499/500 times, I think?) I do not see how it affects the person negatively in any way.
But more importantly, I also quite plainly said that I agree that it should be the choice of the person i.e. not his parents or any other person, so you asking me how I would feel about having my labia "lopped off without my consent" is completely irrelevant, good job![/QUOTE]
The foreskin contains millions of nerves which are being cut off without the consent person receiving the unneeded cosmetic surgery, the only benefits that the surgery provides are better overall hygiene in that area given that you don't take regular care of it and reduced chance of getting STI's because a circumcised penis has less surface tension and thus has a lower chances of getting the STI's.
These benefits aren't enough to justify the removal of a perfectly healthy part of the body which has obvious benefits such protection and sexual stimulus, there's absolutely no reason to perform this barbaric surgery.
[QUOTE=Npc_Hydra3;42843677]It looks aesthetically better than a non circumcised one.
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Cosmetic surgery shouldn't be done on infants.
[QUOTE=JesterUK;42839699]I was shitting myself before my circumcision thinking this might happen.[/QUOTE]
Why would you even do that? There's zero good reasons for it.
[QUOTE]She cut up instead of down[/QUOTE]
Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. FUCK OUCH
[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;42842964]i hear you can jerk off without lube with a foreskin
the moisturizer companies must be perpetuating this[/QUOTE]
Is this like some myth over in the US? I honestly thought everyone could.
It's great I tell ya', can really feel the extra nerve ends.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42844310]Cosmetic surgery shouldn't be done on infants.[/QUOTE]
I would rather have my foreskin cut off as an infant and not remember anything than an adult where I would have to deal with the recovery and pain.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;42844369]Is this like some myth over in the US? I honestly thought everyone could.
It's great I tell ya', can really feel the extra nerve ends.[/QUOTE]
That and a life on white bread equals impotence at 17 lol. People are weird over there.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;42839704]Too much for a procedure that's done pointlessly in the first place.[/QUOTE]
Not just pointless, but damaging, sometimes the doctor will take off too much and you end up with a curved dick, and that can scare ladies away and destroy your self-esteem later in life. Not to mention the enormously reduced sensitivity from severing 3/4s of your nerves in your dick.
[QUOTE=Npc_Hydra3;42844375]I would rather have my foreskin cut off as an infant and not remember anything than an adult where I would have to deal with the recovery and pain.[/QUOTE]
Not remembering pain doesn't justify allowing it to happen. This isn't necessary and should be a choice later in life.
[QUOTE=Furioso;42844033]Normal, healthy women with intact labia get smegma just like males with intact penises. It's a beneficial, natural secretion that helps keep the genitals lubricated. It's transparent and mostly odorless unless it's allowed to build up - then it gains its infamous cheesy consistency and grossness. You really do have to allow it to build up though, because it's not hard to keep your genitals clean.[/QUOTE]
Ah. I know what you're talking about, just never heard of it build up like that.
I wasn't even aware that cutting your childrens dick for looks is a thing, what the christ
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;42844298]The foreskin contains millions of nerves which are being cut off without the consent person receiving the unneeded cosmetic surgery, the only benefits that the surgery provides are better overall hygiene in that area given that you don't take regular care of it and reduced chance of getting STI's because a circumcised penis has less surface tension and thus has a lower chances of getting the STI's.
These benefits aren't enough to justify the removal of a perfectly healthy part of the body which has obvious benefits such protection and sexual stimulus, there's absolutely no reason to perform this barbaric surgery.[/QUOTE]
yeah um autumn wasn't justifying circumcision at all so i mean idk why you need to get all uppity
this infant is gonna have a fucked up childhood
[QUOTE=Niklas;42844482]I wasn't even aware that cutting your childrens dick for looks is a thing, what the christ[/QUOTE]
Its really the only reason parents have it done, aside from tradition and poorly informed ideas on hygiene.
Despite what you people keep saying, hygienic is a perfectly valid reason to cut your kids. First, whey you're young, you tend to piss yourself a lot. The piss can get trapped under the foreskin and cause infections. But that isn't really the big problem, the problem is when people get older. Much older. I do have evidence (anecdotal) from my mother who works for a few years in aged care before i was born. Uncut elderly gentlemen would often get pee stuck in between their glans and foreskin, and since the foreskin is less tight due to the loss of elasticity due to age, urine would pool. It would cause extreme pain after a time to them. The only real treatment is ointments too, and further urination would cause havoc. I'm not saying that we should all be cut, but i believe there are reasons for a person to be cut that are perfectly valid as the others sides.
Middle aged people can take of themselves, very young children and older gentlemen can't as easily.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;42844369]Is this like some myth over in the US? I honestly thought everyone could.
It's great I tell ya', can really feel the extra nerve ends.[/QUOTE]
I can easily without lube and I'm circumcised. Its hardly a difficult thing to do. I feel bad for those who can't.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;42844507]yeah um autumn wasn't justifying circumcision at all so i mean idk why you need to get all uppity[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Nice try, but did you even read what I said? I was questioning DeeCeeTeeBee's post about it being "potentially harmful to them and their future relationships", thinking that it was a bit of an exaggerated statement because whilst, yes there are still potential risks, and even more so because it's taking an unnecessary risk, if the surgery goes correctly (as it does 499/500 times, I think?) [B]I do not see how it affects the person negatively in any way.[/B]
But more importantly, I also quite plainly said that I agree that it should be the choice of the person i.e. not his parents or any other person, so you asking me how I would feel about having my labia "lopped off without my consent" is completely irrelevant, good job![/QUOTE]
Also, the last part in my post wasn't directed at her, it was directed to the practice in general.
[QUOTE=Npc_Hydra3;42844375]I would rather have my foreskin cut off as an infant and not remember anything than an adult where I would have to deal with the recovery and pain.[/QUOTE]
i like how this has deeply disturbing philosophical ramifications as well as being about mutilating child dicks and suppression of choice
I swear the debate over cut/uncut is always the most intense topic to debate over.
[QUOTE=MrDestroyer;42844943]I swear the debate over cut/uncut is always the most intense topic to debate over.[/QUOTE]
Transgendered issues, gun rights and Feminism beat this by miles.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42844959]Transgendered issues, gun rights and Feminism beat this by miles.[/QUOTE]
I mean the actual debate. The topics you listed usually turn into shit flinging on both sides.
[QUOTE=Niklas;42844482]I wasn't even aware that cutting your childrens dick for looks is a thing, what the christ[/QUOTE]
It's not only for looks, it reduces risk of UTI's. It also helps prevent balanitis (inflammation of the glans) and balanoposthitis (inflammation of the glans and foreskin). It also makes cleaning your package easier.
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