Manga images 'not child porn', says Sweden's Supreme Court
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[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;36367113]Kinks aren't known for making sense. And sexual fantasies often don't translate well into reality.[/QUOTE]
Most fantasies often don't, hence why they're fantasies.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;36362839]But I don't think someone would be aroused by a drawn man, but not a real one, unless they're so into hentai they can't get off on the real thing. But that was a bad analogy. A better one would be to ask if someone fapping to a cartoon horse is not a zoophile. And I don't mean an anthropomorphic one.[/QUOTE]
I actually like drawn gay porn but am not attracted to men, so there you go.
Here are the 38 images (including thumbnails... what) that now were deemed legal in Supreme Court and released to the public [b][NSFW]:[/b] [url]http://blogg.tianmi.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/mangabilderna.pdf[/url]
Most of them are quite tame imo, good on them that they could distinct between fantasy and reality at least.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36367155]I actually like drawn gay porn but am not attracted to men, so there you go.[/QUOTE]
Not surprised, penis is a very nice and smooth object to draw. While drawing you can almost feel it in your hands.
[QUOTE=UnMute;36367567]Here are the 38 images (including thumbnails... what) that now were deemed legal in Supreme Court and released to the public [b][NSFW]:[/b] [url]http://blogg.tianmi.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/mangabilderna.pdf[/url]
Most of them are quite tame imo, good on them that they could distinct between fantasy and reality at least.[/QUOTE]
2nd just looks flat chested too :v:
[QUOTE=Skelmech;36344861]You do realize the ONLY REASON society views pedophilia as bad or weird is because about 200(possibly more I forgot) or so years ago, we started thinking of children as more precious than we used to. We used to fuck kids a bit after they hit puberty to keep the population alive.
The disgusting feelings you get over someone being a pedophile is entirely a social construct.
(Also that used to classify being gay as a mental disorder and still classifies being trans as one)[/QUOTE]
i am at a loss for words over how fucked up this post is.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;36367602]Not surprised, penis is a very nice and smooth object to draw. While drawing you can almost feel it in your hands.[/QUOTE]
I said I like drawn, not TO draw.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36367653]I said I like drawn, not TO draw.[/QUOTE]
Oh we were talking about you?
[QUOTE=Skelmech;36344861]You do realize the ONLY REASON society views pedophilia as bad or weird is because about 200(possibly more I forgot) or so years ago, we started thinking of children as more precious than we used to. We used to fuck kids a bit after they hit puberty to keep the population alive.
The disgusting feelings you get over someone being a pedophile is entirely a social construct.
(Also that used to classify being gay as a mental disorder and still classifies being trans as one)[/QUOTE]
This post makes me wonder why the DMT was shut down but not this thread.
[QUOTE=UnMute;36367567]Here are the 38 images (including thumbnails... what) that now were deemed legal in Supreme Court and released to the public [b][NSFW]:[/b] [url]http://blogg.tianmi.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/mangabilderna.pdf[/url]
Most of them are quite tame imo, good on them that they could distinct between fantasy and reality at least.[/QUOTE]
I always find it weird when the court has to replicate the crime. I mean they thought this was child pornography, so they put it all together in a collage, signed them and showed them to everybody so they could decide whether it was child porn or not. What the hell?
I'm pretty sure they do the same thing in some cases with real child pornography too. I find it kind of hypocritical if you illegalize something for whatever reason, and then do it yourself in court. If any of this stuff is actually harmful then surely it is in court, too?
This is also why I think all imagery should be legal, otherwise it is just hypocritical. It creates idiotic side effects such as innocent people getting arrested for innocent nude pictures of their family, and it creates the odd situation where the crime is repeated in court. All the while looking at gore and death and even death of children is perfectly fine.
Hell, it is even detrimental law-wise. When a murder video shows up, the police immediately finds it and can then use it as evidence. With child porn, they have to wait until they catch someone who has it on their computer, only [I]then[/I] can they begin to look for material they haven't seen before and then use it as evidence against the actual molester.
I like how there are stamps on every image saying "SECRET"
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;36367787]I always find it weird when the court has to replicate the crime. I mean they thought this was child pornography, so they put it all together in a collage, signed them and showed them to everybody so they could decide whether it was child porn or not. What the hell?
I'm pretty sure they do the same thing in some cases with real child pornography too. I find it kind of hypocritical if you illegalize something for whatever reason, and then do it yourself in court. If any of this stuff is actually harmful then surely it is in court, too?
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How can you judge something without seeing the evidence? Jury and judge need to see if the case is actually legit, and it wasn't here.
Indeed, but it's weird when the evidence is the crime itself.
I mean with gore, the picture is the evidence while the murder is the crime. [I](That's why we can look at it without worry; we're not committing crimes just by watching the evidence.)[/I]
With child pornography, the image is both.
I'm worried about freedom of expression within drawing, you can't just limit stuff like this because you think it looks weird
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;36367996]Indeed, but it's weird when the evidence is the crime itself.
I mean with gore, the picture is the evidence while the murder is the crime. [I](That's why we can look at it without worry; we're not committing crimes just by watching the evidence.)[/I]
With child pornography, the image is both.[/QUOTE]
It's kinda like owning drugs. You don't need to use/look at them but possession is still illegal. Though in cp case it's a lot more retarded and has a ton of loopholes.
Still nasty as fuck
[QUOTE=Rankxerox;36368290]Still nasty as fuck[/QUOTE]
What an informative, totally not biased factual post, please do lead on and explain your thoughts.
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;36368312]What an informative, totally not biased factual post, please do lead on and explain your thoughts.[/QUOTE]
you're looking at drawings of naked children.
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;36368474]you're looking at drawings of naked children.[/QUOTE]
Okay and?
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;36368571]Okay and?[/QUOTE]
and you're a creep
[QUOTE=Sanius;36368593]and you're a creep[/QUOTE]
Nothing illegal in that.
[QUOTE=Sanius;36368593]and you're a creep[/QUOTE]
Go ahead and provide a reason for it
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;36368637]Go ahead and provide a reason for it[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;36368474]you're looking at drawings of naked children.[/QUOTE]
???
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;36368637]Go ahead and provide a reason for it[/QUOTE]
please never have children
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;36368571]Okay and?[/QUOTE]
do you really not understand that looking at drawings of NAKED CHILDREN is fucking disgusting???
[QUOTE=Sanius;36368692]please never have children[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying I'm a pedophile (because I am certainly not), I'm just saying you can't actually explain the reason for it being wrong
I don't support it, but I'm not [I]against it[/I] per se.
Wait, the topic here is still loli isn't it?
I have nothing against this at all and [B]aren't actual children.[/B]
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;36368750]I'm not saying I'm a pedophile (because I am certainly not), I'm just saying you can't actually explain the reason for it being wrong
I don't support it, but I'm not [I]against it[/I] per se.[/QUOTE]
you're not against being a pedophile? wat
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;36368768]you're not against being a pedophile? wat[/QUOTE]
It's just another fetish.
Pedophilia =/= child rape
I am strongly against child porn, but loli isn't child porn in my view
Better having a pedophile viewing [B]not real[/B] stuff rather than [B]actual [/B]stuff right?
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;36368790]It's just another fetish.
Pedophilia =/= child rape
I am strongly against child porn, but loli isn't child porn in my view
Better having a pedophile viewing [B]not real[/B] stuff rather than [B]actual [/B]stuff right?[/QUOTE]
um paedophilia isn't "just a fetish" dude
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;36368790]It's just another fetish.
Pedophilia =/= child rape
I am strongly against child porn, but loli isn't child porn in my view
Better having a pedophile viewing [B]not real[/B] stuff rather than [B]actual [/B]stuff right?[/QUOTE]
so having an attraction to underaged children is a fetish and therefore should be acceptable?
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