• Manga images 'not child porn', says Sweden's Supreme Court
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[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;36368790] Better having a pedophile viewing [B]not real[/B] stuff rather than [B]actual [/B]stuff right?[/QUOTE] hey you do realise the legality of creepy porn doesn't make it uncreepy right you're still a creep
[QUOTE=Kondor58;36368837]um paedophilia isn't "just a fetish" dude[/QUOTE] Fetish was the wrong word for it, but I don't really know what to use for it [editline]17th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Sanius;36368869]hey you do realise the legality of creepy porn doesn't make it uncreepy right you're still a creep[/QUOTE] good luck with that
Just as creepy as obsession over videogames that are murder simulators, creepy.
Alright, murder is fine because you enjoy it. Because it's totally murder if it's virtual people right? And it's suddenly terrible because it involves sexual activities, for no apparent reason
And of course no one is willing to admit that Flubber has a point, so you guys just call him a creep and a pedophile so you can feel superior.
People that fight against it being legal do more harm than the actual pedophiles involved, think about that. Loli btw, not talking about actual CP here
[img]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l73/DamienVilmore/LeavingSeinfeld.gif[/img] i'm out of this freak show.
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;36368988]People that fight against it being legal do more harm than the actual pedophiles involved, think about that. Loli btw, not talking about actual CP here[/QUOTE] Loli is essentially child porn, except that there's no victim to it.
Well this quickly turned to absolute shit. [QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;36368474]you're looking at drawings of naked children.[/QUOTE] Which is irrelevant and probably not true. They're drawings so there's nothing wrong with it. You may think it is disgusting or "creepy" or whatever else you feel about it. This however doesn't justify condemning those who watch it, otherwise you could condemn homosexuals on similar grounds; [I]"I hate you because I think what you like is icky."[/I] Base your judgements on whether or not it causes harm instead of this useless knee jerk reaction. And before you inevitably say that pedophilia does cause harm - we're talking about drawings here so no. [QUOTE=Sanius;36368593]and you're a creep[/QUOTE] That's your opinion and it is baseless. It isn't illegal, and it doesn't harm anyone, so you shouldn't care. [QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;36368741]do you really not understand that looking at drawings of NAKED CHILDREN is fucking disgusting???[/QUOTE] See this is the kind of blind hatred we have today. People have seriously forgotten where the pedophilia hate comes from. Why do you hate pedophiles? I'll tell you. It's because a few of them decide to molest children. We don't want children to be molested so we oppose child molestation. But you've flipped your shit all the way to include not only just the attraction, but even just an attraction to [I]drawings[/I]. Calm your shit down and focus your hatred on people who actually deserve it, the real child rapists. [QUOTE=Kondor58;36368837]um paedophilia isn't "just a fetish" dude[/QUOTE] I've actually found that it is really hard to conclude what exactly pedophilia is. Fetish? Sexual orientation? Paraphilia? Sexuality? Mental illness? Disease? By definition it is a paraphilia, but if you look up the definition of [I]"paraphilia"[/I], it's basically an [I]"abnormal sexual orientation"[/I]. All of these words are incredibly vague and ambiguous, so in my opinion it makes no difference which you choose. It doesn't change the fact that it is merely another [I]attraction[/I], and it doesn't have to make the person a rapist or more likely to abuse or whatever. [QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;36368846]so having an attraction to underaged children is a fetish and therefore should be acceptable?[/QUOTE] The attraction should be accepted. Rape and molestation should not. Simple.
loli is illegal here :)
I can explain why fapping to drawn cp is considered creepy. It's because for quite some time we've been taught that pedophilia is bad, pedos are bad and are not humans but monsters. Because some thousand+ years ago loving little children was normal and even encouraged in some cultures. Our current culture finds it horrible, that's why people in the current culture find it horrible. Another thing is, we're not exposed to it so it's something unknown and scary to use, hence creepy. The same way gays are creepy and disgusting for many who have outdated morals. Same for racism, it was normal to consider blacks as lesser beings. Today it's normal to consider pedos as such. Even if these pedos are not pedos and fap to drawn cp. It's natural for people to hate something that's different, we're learning to tolerate all the varying sexualities, fetishes and so on but we're still not there. Many feel insecure and it makes them feel safer when they degrade people of different views. Hate against something is nothing new, the only thing that changes is the topic to hate.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;36369036]I can explain why fapping to drawn cp is considered creepy. It's because for quite some time we've been taught that pedophilia is bad, pedos are bad and are not humans but monsters. Because some thousand+ years ago loving little children was normal and even encouraged in some cultures. Our current culture finds it horrible, that's why people in the current culture find it horrible. Another thing is, we're not exposed to it so it's something unknown and scary to use, hence creepy. The same way gays are creepy and disgusting for many who have outdated morals. Same for racism, it was normal to consider blacks as lesser beings. Today it's normal to consider pedos as such. Even if these pedos are not pedos and fap to drawn cp. It's natural for people to hate something that's different, we're learning to tolerate all the varying sexualities, fetishes and so on but we're still not there. Many feel insecure and it makes them feel safer when they degrade people of different views. Hate against something is nothing new, the only thing that changes is the topic to hate.[/QUOTE] tl;dr derailing should be a qualification that you are able to put on your CV. I find it interesting that Sweden made this descision, and I wonder how far it will extend to. As for now, i'm out of this thread because I know whats at the end of it.
[QUOTE=usa;36369107]tl;dr derailing should be a qualification that you are able to put on your CV. I find it interesting that Sweden made this descision, and I wonder how far it will extend to. As for now, i'm out of this thread because I know whats at the end of it.[/QUOTE] So writing my opinion on why people hate something related to the topic is derailing? What.
[QUOTE=usa;36369107]tl;dr derailing should be a qualification that you are able to put on your CV. I find it interesting that Sweden made this descision, and I wonder how far it will extend to. As for now, i'm out of this thread because I know whats at the end of it.[/QUOTE] Dohohoho wow here is a true idiot. First you say you didn't read it. Then you claim he derailed the thread with his post.
[QUOTE=iLife_Aftermath;36369231]Dohohoho wow here is a true idiot. First you say you didn't read it. Then you claim he derailed the thread with his post.[/QUOTE] not really i was referring to the past 2 pages of people spazzing out at some guys creepy fetish that he probably should have kept to himself, and saved us all the drama. inb4 BUT YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING cya
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;36368741]do you really not understand that looking at drawings of NAKED CHILDREN is fucking disgusting???[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Rankxerox;36368290]Still nasty as fuck[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sanius;36368692]please never have children[/QUOTE] Lets hope none of you are ever in a position of authority
[QUOTE=Sanius;36368869]hey you do realise the legality of creepy porn doesn't make it uncreepy right you're still a creep[/QUOTE] Ok, and? You're saying it as if its a fact, its not, it's your opinion. Oh you've been here 7 years? Creep [editline]17th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;36368846]so having an attraction to underaged children is a fetish and therefore should be acceptable?[/QUOTE] Drawn. Does your thick skull not see the line between real life and drawn? [QUOTE=Kondor58;36368837]um paedophilia isn't "just a fetish" dude[/QUOTE] Pretty sure he was talking about lolicon [editline]17th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;36369502]Lets hope none of you are ever in a position of authority[/QUOTE] Lets hope they also don't get children so they don't teach them to spout hateful bullshit.
[QUOTE=xxncxx;36369607] Lets hope they also don't get children so they don't teach them to spout hateful bullshit.[/QUOTE] yeah let's pray to god that we don't teach our children not to masturbate to child pornography
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;36368940]Alright, murder is fine because you enjoy it. Because it's totally murder if it's virtual people right? And it's suddenly terrible because it involves sexual activities, for no apparent reason[/QUOTE] As unnerving as I find loli, there is nothing that anyone who enjoys video games that involve killing people can say against this argument without becoming a hypocrite.
[QUOTE=Sanius;36369641]yeah let's pray to god that we don't teach our children not to masturbate to child pornography[/QUOTE] You also seem to not get the difference. Can you go re-educate yourself before you start spouting more stupid statements?
Hating/not liking/finding something creepy is normal and ok. It becomes a problem when you start voicing your biased opinion. You can hate gays as much as you like as long as your bias does not flow into real world.
[QUOTE=Sanius;36369641]yeah let's pray to god that we don't teach our children not to masturbate to child pornography[/QUOTE] for fuck's sake this isn't real cp we're talking about it's fucking drawings sure, it's a little wierd but as long as he's not out molesting children
[QUOTE=xxncxx;36369607]Drawn. Does your thick skull not see the line between real life and drawn?[/QUOTE] it's drawn images which depict children in sexual situations...
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;36369673]for fuck's sake this isn't real cp we're talking about it's fucking drawings sure, it's a little wierd but as long as he's not out molesting children[/QUOTE] call it whatever you want if it eases your conscience, dude. you're still masturbating to sexual depictions of children
[QUOTE=Autumn;36369675]it's drawn images which depict children in sexual situations...[/QUOTE] Its not child pornography. Child pornography has a child as a victim, a drawn image is just a picture.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;36369672]Hating/not liking/finding something creepy is normal and ok. It becomes a problem when you start voicing your biased opinion. You can hate gays as much as you like as long as your bias does not flow into real world.[/QUOTE] please do not compare homosexuality and pedophilia
Victimless crimes, not sure why these exist.
[QUOTE=Sanius;36369697]please do not compare homosexuality and pedophilia[/QUOTE] Oh right because that'd make you a huge hypocrite?
[QUOTE=Sanius;36369697]please do not compare homosexuality and pedophilia[/QUOTE] I am not, I am comparing your bias. You're essentially hating on something that does not harm anyone and does not impact you or other people. People who say loli fappers are child molesters are the same people who say gay people are men rapists.
[QUOTE=xxncxx;36369686]Its not child pornography. Child pornography has a child as a victim, a drawn image is just a picture.[/QUOTE] but you're still jerking it off to images of children
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