• Manga images 'not child porn', says Sweden's Supreme Court
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[QUOTE=Autumn;36369723]but you're still jerking it off to images of children[/QUOTE] I'm sorry where did I say I do that? Why do you even care what others do in their private time? It doesn't harm you nor affect you, nor does it harm anyone else, so why in the hell would it matter to you?
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;36369716] People who say loli fappers are child molesters are the same people who say gay people are men rapists.[/QUOTE] give me a fucking break, dude. pedophiles are not victims of bigotry. whatever flak they get they deserve I used to think like you until I had a niece. if you are around small children at all and you still believe this bullshit you need to seek help
my bad; people that jerk off to loli are still jerking off over images of children. which is pretty sick
[QUOTE=xxncxx;36369730]I'm sorry where did I say I do that? Why do you even care what others do in their private time? It doesn't harm you nor affect you, nor does it harm anyone else, so why in the hell would it matter to you?[/QUOTE] I don't know if you're english native or not but "you" can be rhetorical and not refer to YOU. [editline]17th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Sanius;36369751]give me a fucking break, dude. pedophiles are not victims of bigotry. whatever flak they get they deserve[/QUOTE] Even the ones who never raped or touched or even thought of sexing REAL children? Whoa you're one biased fuck.
[QUOTE=Sanius;36369751]give me a fucking break, dude. pedophiles are not victims of bigotry. whatever flak they get they deserve[/QUOTE] That's pretty fucking sad. They are human beings aswell and you are treating them as if they aren't, when they haven't done anything wrong. You are a terrible person.
It's ok to find loli creepy. I for one find it pretty disturbing myself. But to actually hate someone for liking loli would be similar to hating someone for enjoying "murder simulators". As long as no real children are harmed where's the justification for the hate?
[QUOTE=Autumn;36369756]my bad; people that jerk off to loli are still jerking off over images of children. which is pretty sick[/QUOTE] yeah, it is wierd, but it isn't illegal so i wouldn't consider them criminals unless they actually act upon it
Now its just devolved into Sanius rating everyone dumb.
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;36369777]It's ok to find loli creepy. I for one find it pretty disturbing myself. But to actually hate someone for liking loli would be similar to hating someone for enjoying "murder simulators". As long as no real children are harmed where's the justification for the hate?[/QUOTE] I never let people who have feet fetish in my house. I'm scared they will sniff my feet while I'm not looking. Creepy folks deserve all the steppings they get.
[QUOTE=Sanius;36369751]give me a fucking break, dude. pedophiles are not victims of bigotry. whatever flak they get they deserve I used to think like you until I had a niece. if you are around small children at all and you still believe this bullshit you need to seek help[/QUOTE] lets ban video games guys I used to think they were ok but then i became an adult and i dont wanna get killed!!1!
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;36369791]yeah, it is wierd, but it isn't illegal so i wouldn't consider them criminals unless they actually act upon it[/QUOTE] me neither. but it's that people are trying to justify it not being weird because "it's not real children, there are no victims" that doesn't sit right with me.
[QUOTE=Sanius;36369751]give me a fucking break, dude. pedophiles are not victims of bigotry. whatever flak they get they deserve[/QUOTE] How do I even respond to this? Do you really believe that pedophiles are any different than homosexuals in the sense that they have a choice in their sexuality? Pedophiles did not choose to be pedophiles. Why on earth would anyone choose to be a pedophile in a society that hates them about as much as they hate murderers?
[QUOTE=Autumn;36369811]me neither. but it's that people are trying to justify it not being weird because "it's not real children, there are no victims" that doesn't sit right with me.[/QUOTE] I'm not trying to justify it not being weird, I'm trying to get the point out that you can't hate on someone just because of something they like. There are plenty of weird fetishes but you don't hear people ranting on them every chance they get. They shouldn't be treated differently unless they do something that crosses the line.
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;36369829]How do I even respond to this? Do you really believe that pedophiles are any different than homosexuals in the sense that they have a choice in their sexuality? Pedophiles did not choose to be pedophiles. Why on earth would anyone choose to be a pedophile in a society that hates them about as much as they hate murderers?[/QUOTE] I think some people hate pedophiles even more than murderers
I'm going to be completely honest with you Sanius. I find it pretty disgusting that you would defend LGBT rights but as soon as pedophilia rears it's ugly head you hop aboard the hate wagon and essentially say that all pedophiles are reprehensible human beings that deserve all the hate they get regardless of whether or not they abstain from actual child abuse. It's really disappointing to me because I usually agree with you. The fact that you justify this hate implies that you believe they choose to be attracted to children.
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;36369879]I'm going to be completely honest with you Sanius. I find it pretty disgusting that you would defend LGBT rights but as soon as pedophilia rears it's ugly head you hop aboard the hate wagon and essentially say that all pedophiles are reprehensible human beings that deserve all the hate they get regardless of whether or not they abstain from actual child abuse. It's really disappointing to me because I usually agree with you.[/QUOTE] That to me just shows he's a major hypocrite and none of his posts should ever be taken seriously. I guess that's how he earned that title.
[QUOTE=Autumn;36369811]me neither. but it's that people are trying to justify it not being weird because "it's not real children, there are no victims" that doesn't sit right with me.[/QUOTE] well yeah, it doesn't really make it any less wierd, but it does make it less criminal and they can't help it, so i wouldn't completely look down upon him unless, of course, he does something
[QUOTE=Jackald;36338928]Fapping to loli is disgusting and pretty awful, but not criminal. I think if you restrict access to it, you'd just make people more desperate, so go Swedish criminal court.[/QUOTE] It's a fetish, it can never be explained.
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;36368095]I'm worried about freedom of expression within drawing, you can't just limit stuff like this because you think it looks weird[/QUOTE] Exactly. People who support making it illegal seem to be missing the part where the police can arrest you over a drawing you made in your house.
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;36369879] The fact that you justify this hate implies that you believe they choose to be attracted to children.[/QUOTE]Note that the people who fap to loli most of the time are not even attracted to real kids. Most loli shit that comes from japan is NOTHING like real children and is merely fiction that has similar features. It's comparable to bronies or furries, most of them would never touch a real animal. [editline]17th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=xxncxx;36369895]That to me just shows he's a major hypocrite and none of his posts should ever be taken seriously. I guess that's how he earned that title.[/QUOTE] I stopped some time ago. He and thisispain are impossible to argue with.
don't say that name too loudly or he might join the party as well then we'll have a real mess on our hands [B]Edit:[/B] uhhh no pun intended
[QUOTE=Autumn;36369811]me neither. but it's that people are trying to justify it not being weird because "it's not real children, there are no victims" that doesn't sit right with me.[/QUOTE] Do you support jailing people who play first person shooters as war criminals or mass murderes, simple yes or no question.
I believe my input would be relevant to this thread.
[QUOTE=Crimor;36370128]Do you support jailing people who play first person shooters as war criminals or mass murderes, simple yes or no question.[/QUOTE] yep because everybody knows that hilariously unrealistic depictions of murder in video games increases the demand for snuff films as much as lolicon increases the demand for child pornography (it doesn't)
I just cannot grasp how people still think like this. They're drawings... You may think it is so disgusting and so creepy and weird and what ever else you feel, but it still harms absolutely nobody. This is why we progress so slowly, we never fucking learn from previous conflicts. The homosexuality conflict taught us not to hate people just because we find what they like unappealing. The racism conflict taught us that you can't generalize an entire group of people. We also have this thing called freedom of speech that we supposedly really like. We tend to just love the notion of freedom, but some people just do a heelspin as soon as the subject is something they don't like. I actually think all imagery should be legal to possess, because it is just images and doesn't harm anyone else, which I argued for a few pages back before the thread went shitwards. It's just so unbelievable that people use a simple feeling of disgust to justify censorship and freedom-impairing laws.
People who enjoy killing people in video games enjoy killing people in real life. :downs:
[QUOTE=Sanius;36370216]lolicon increases the demand for child pornography (it doesn't)[/QUOTE] indeed it doesn't
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;36370235]indeed it doesn't[/QUOTE] yes it does
[QUOTE=Sanius;36370216]yep because everybody knows that hilariously unrealistic depictions of murder in video games increases the demand for snuff films [B]as much as lolicon increases the demand for child pornography[/B] (it doesn't)[/QUOTE] And you obviously have proof of this, since a person like you would simply not make unfounded accusations like this, right?
[QUOTE=Autumn;36369756]my bad; people that jerk off to loli are still jerking off over images of children. which is pretty sick[/QUOTE] read the last few pages
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