• Fishermen get crafty to circumvent shark fin ban.
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Superstitious Chinese population strikes again in creating markets for endangering animals.
[QUOTE=Athlias;42823549]I ate shark fin soup once, but I didn't find out until after. It really doesn't taste like anything and isn't special in any sort of way.[/QUOTE] Except for the mercury content! [img]https://cdn1.iconfinder.com/data/icons/30_Free_Black_ToolBar_Icons/20/Black_ThumbsUp.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;42823578]I don't know, it's such a foreign concept in North America. [video=youtube;wceJjcdEaFw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wceJjcdEaFw[/video] [video=youtube;JJ--faib7to]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ--faib7to[/video][/QUOTE] The difference being sharks are fished and those are farmed.
[QUOTE=OvB;42823696]The difference being sharks are fished and those are farmed.[/QUOTE] In the end, thousands of animals are killed so fast food joints can make billions a year. I don't see a difference except in that the sharks aren't replenished.
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;42823711]In the end, thousands of animals are killed so fast food joints can make billions a year. I don't see a difference except in that the sharks aren't replenished.[/QUOTE] It's a big fucking difference when one species survives and the other is obliterated. That's the entire goddamn problem.
[QUOTE=SuddenImpact;42821786]Shark fins are not even meat. It has no nutritional value. It is like the cartilage that you have in a bad cut of steak. You don´t eat that stuff, you throw it to the dogs.[/QUOTE] but its expensive magical stuff that cures everything.
fuck cmon guys the whole point of the ban is so you don't fucking fish the sharks to begin with.... now you're wasting 90% of the shark too [editline]10th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sungrazer;42823711]In the end, thousands of animals are killed so fast food joints can make billions a year. I don't see a difference except in that the sharks aren't replenished.[/QUOTE] cows...they are easy to raise, and have been domesticated so we have to take care of them else they wouldn't last long on their own. sharks are top notch preditors that without, the food chain collapses because the next biggest guy doesn't get eaten. removing sharks from the ecosystem is a horrible thing to do, cows aren't even part of an ecosystem to begin with when they are farmed. the difference being killing thousands of sharks is killing the ecosystem, killing thousands of cows is not causing ecosystem collapses
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[QUOTE=Sungrazer;42823711]In the end, thousands of animals are killed so fast food joints can make billions a year. I don't see a difference except in that the sharks aren't replenished.[/QUOTE] As a conservationist its more important to me that we ensure tge existence of species first and foremost. We can argue the morals and ethics of eating meat after the species has recovered.
[QUOTE=OvB;42823875]As a conservationist its more important to me that we ensure tge existence of species first and foremost. We can argue the morals and ethics of eating meat after the species has recovered.[/QUOTE] Okay, but the question I was answering was "How can someone be so ruthlessly greedy?"
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42821687]Well looks like Sharks will be going extinct if China continues to expand.[/QUOTE] A lot of things are going to be extinct if China continues to expand.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;42823754]It's a big fucking difference when one species survives and the other is obliterated. That's the entire goddamn problem.[/QUOTE] Actually nature has been doing that for billions of years before us so I'm pretty sure it can't be all that big of a problem
[QUOTE=proch;42823964]A lot of things are going to be extinct if China continues to expand.[/QUOTE] They're setting themselves up for a pandemic. So really it all depends on which horrible thing happens first.
[QUOTE=Paramud;42822629]Your dad sounds like the kind of guy who lives in a van off a freeway and does nothing but hunt and eat peyote.[/QUOTE] Well you're going to have a lot of time to use every part of an animal, when you're living in a van down by the river China to me kind of resembles those movies where an alien race invades the planet for its resources. There's billions of them, they can't even go outside half the time because of their air quality. Children are developing lung cancer. And when it comes to wild life they just don't care. Only about themselves. I think they gave viagra to some pandas once but that's about it
Well I guess it is better than the previous method of just cutting the fins off and dumping the shark back into the water to bleed to death...
[QUOTE=Paramud;42824811]Actually nature has been doing that for billions of years before us so I'm pretty sure it can't be all that big of a problem[/QUOTE] Nature doesn't generally do it as fast as we do. Sharks have an important role in reef ecosystems as a top apex predator. Without them the balance we have now would be upset.
[QUOTE=OvB;42821622][img]http://i.imgur.com/ClXpvnv.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/ptun3IQ.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/wNxDrkM.jpg[/img] [url]http://news.mongabay.com/2013/1110-shark-fin-technique.html[/url] Incredible what people are willing to do for these triangles of cartridge.[/QUOTE] Cartridge? You mean cartilage lol.
[QUOTE=OvB;42825253]Nature doesn't generally do it as fast as we do. Sharks have an important role in reef ecosystems as a top apex predator. Without them the balance we have now would be upset.[/QUOTE] Wiping out something thats been around for 600 million years is a new low.
[QUOTE=LSK;42825275]Cartridge? You mean cartilage lol.[/QUOTE] Yeah I know I tried to edit it but for some reason when I tried it just erased everything so...
[QUOTE=OvB;42825295]Yeah I know I tried to edit it but for some reason when I tried it just erased everything so...[/QUOTE] I think Garry made it so you can't edit the OP in SH anymore. Really dumb actually
[QUOTE=OvB;42823696]The difference being sharks are fished and those are farmed.[/QUOTE] No, the difference here is waste product. The issue is the sharks are being killed for their fins, and a great proportion of the time the rest of the carcass is just thrown away. Shark fin soup would be fine so long as there was shark everything else to use the rest of the meat, but most of the time the fisherman don't bother to carry the rest of the shark meat, they just dump it.
[QUOTE=Furioso;42825315]I think Garry made it so you can't edit the OP in SH anymore. Really dumb actually[/QUOTE] Apparently it's a problem with Vbulletin, if you have certain symbols in a quote, editing the post makes the whole thing blank out
[QUOTE=aznz888;42822905]i was going to agree with your point but then you had to throw this in. did you ever stop to think that, oh i don't know, maybe it's not *just* chinese people? you could say the same for any unreasonably-priced "faux" good that's been around for ages. do i disagree with herbal/traditional remedies being a big bag of hoax with a money sign painted on it? hell yes. do i agree with blatant racism? nope.[/QUOTE] Chinese isn't a race. Why do people get their undies tangled over words?
Also, how is it "naturally" attached to the body when the body's fucking gone? The spine is only a part of the body...
Can't blame them, Shark fins are an expensive status symbol to eat even though they taste of nothing, I'll confirm that since I did eat the stuff once while on sojourn in Hong Kong a bunch of years ago. Fishermen really don't give a fuck about long term consequences in that part of the world, all they know is that they have to make sure that they can provide for their families and not starve to death. Sometimes they even resist education to the contrary by deeming it as 'propaganda' aimed at depriving fishermen of their living.
[QUOTE=Paramud;42824811]Actually nature has been doing that for billions of years before us so I'm pretty sure it can't be all that big of a problem[/QUOTE] Nature would replace a link in the foodchain with a more adapted one, creating new balance. There is no balance in removing a link from the foodchain.
fuck this shit.
[QUOTE=SuddenImpact;42821737]The funny thing is it is not even tasting good. It has no taste. Just a stupid status symbol. Like a painting looking like shit but selling for millions. Fuckin chinese.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Ganerumo;42821859]In some parts of Asia they are still hunting down a ton of animals for so-called medicinal properties, despite countless studies showing these "medicines" have no effect on anything. But yeah apparently if you trust your local chinese traditional medicine bullshitter you can get a raging hard-on by ingesting rhinoceros horn powder or eating tiger balls, and skins fermenting in a jar of booze will somehow cure most illnesses including cancer.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Tark;42822503]Fuck I'm tired of this Chinese medicinal bullshit, they keep being the cause of all these species dying out just because they want to grind up some of the stuff and eat it and think they're cured or their dick is bigger. Fuck off already.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=breakyourfac;42823579]Superstitious Chinese population strikes again in creating markets for endangering animals.[/QUOTE] Please don't label all Chinese as barbaric, shark-hating people who don't care about the oceans. It's racist and offensive. How many of you guys here eat tuna? If you really care for the sharks, you'd probably want to know that tens (if not hundreds) of millions of sharks are caught and killed each year due to bycatch from tuna fisheries. Sharks aren't the only victim of a broken ocean management system. They're just an easy scapegoat because it allows Western nations to shift the blame to others. Meanwhile, they happily import seafood from the very fisheries that are causing these problems in the first place. [QUOTE=Sableye;42823776]fuck cmon guys the whole point of the ban is so you don't fucking fish the sharks to begin with.... now you're wasting 90% of the shark too [editline]10th November 2013[/editline] cows...they are easy to raise, and have been domesticated so we have to take care of them else they wouldn't last long on their own. sharks are top notch preditors that without, the food chain collapses because the next biggest guy doesn't get eaten. removing sharks from the ecosystem is a horrible thing to do, cows aren't even part of an ecosystem to begin with when they are farmed. the difference being killing thousands of sharks is killing the ecosystem, killing thousands of cows is not causing ecosystem collapses[/QUOTE] [img]http://travel.mongabay.com/brazil/600/brazil_0507.jpg[/img] Amazon rainforest at the top, cow pasture at the bottom. I think it speaks for itself.
[QUOTE=Paramud;42822629]Your dad sounds like the kind of guy who lives in a van off a freeway and does nothing but hunt and eat peyote.[/QUOTE] He's a bobby in Edinburgh who goes hunting occasionally, he uses the meat, tans the skin, and leaves the bones. He does taxidermy as a hobby, so we went hunting a lot when I was a lad. [editline]11th November 2013[/editline] As for peyote, he does say he experimented with some mean shit in Secondary school. So who knows.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;42829226][IMG]http://travel.mongabay.com/brazil/600/brazil_0507.jpg[/IMG] Amazon rainforest at the top, cow pasture at the bottom. I think it speaks for itself.[/QUOTE] This [I]really[/I] blows. Fuck, what are we doing? We're such a selfish people. We rob future generations of their prosperity by living like this... by destroying forests and wiping out entire oceanic species to make our bellies and wallets fat. It's seriously despicable. Our oceans and forests are such a treasure...I can't imagine what the world will be like without a great barrier reef or an Amazon rainforest. I can only hope we'll sort our shit out soon and attempt to repair the damage we've wrought on our world, not only for our's and the world's sake but for future generations. It wouldn't be so hard to live sustainably...
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