• Woman Hit With $1.92 Million Fine for Sharing 24 Songs on Kazaa
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They would have to fine me $100,000,000,000 :eng101:
[QUOTE=conman420;15649842][b]THEY'RE DOING IT FUCKING WRONG[/b][/QUOTE] The point of this trial, just like thepiratebay trial, is to scare people. Technically they are doing it right, but morally wrong.
[QUOTE=Turbis;15650082]The point of this trial, just like thepiratebay trial, is to scare people. Technically they are doing it right, but morally wrong.[/QUOTE] It doesn't scare people though. Sure you are shocked by the sum of money. But honestly what are the odds of it happening to you? All this does is totally ruin that persons life and make people think "wow how horrible, but it probably won't happen to me" People only learn from their mistakes and rarely from other peoples.
[QUOTE=conman420;15650157]It doesn't scare people though. Sure you are shocked by the sum of money. But honestly what are the odds of it happening to you? All this does is totally ruin that persons life and make people think "wow how horrible, but it probably won't happen to me" People only learn from their mistakes and rarely from other peoples.[/QUOTE] If anything these media trials have shown people how to download stuff for free. Many in sweden had no idea what thepiratebay was until the news about the trial was on TV. People who asked often got the answer "It's where you download music and movies for free". If that doesn't sound tempting then I don't know what does xD
Kind of ironic that software piracy has a much bigger share of P2P traffic and yet the most you hear about it is Sweden's government bitching about Pirate Bay occasionally, or an idiot making a thread 'OMG I GOT A CEASE AND DESIST FROM ISP WAHT DO I DO PLEASE DON'T TELL MY MOMMY'. RIAA is just incredibly butthurt, greedy, and has some big legal powers wrapped around their little finger (adorned by a diamond encrusted platinum plated gold ring paid for by stolen artist funds, extorted piracy 'settlements', and possibly taxpayer money in some form). Dangerous combination right there. That's precisely one more nerouse than Big Oil has, unless you count 'pathologically lying'.
Who the hell lets a jury decide on the punishment?
[QUOTE=Lovstospuge;15645066]I bet shes throwing her son's computer at him with it on fire right now.[/QUOTE] I don't think they have one anymore. With a $1.92M debt, I doubt they have much.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;15645180]Damn, these RIAA people take music seriously don't they. :v:[/QUOTE] Nope, just money. They don't give a shit about the music.
[QUOTE=Doug52392;15646519] However, the RIAA aren't a police force, and they can't just execute a search warrant on the computer in question and check how many times a certain MP3 was downloaded, so they make up a "magic number", based on how much money they feel like extorting from their victims.[/QUOTE] Dude. Have you ever downloaded [I]anything[/I]? It tells you on the website how many times that file was downloaded. There's no need for a search warrant.
I thought there was a law where if you get fined it has to be reasonable and something you can eventually pay back.
[QUOTE=abp1192;15655602]I thought there was a law where if you get fined it has to be reasonable and something you can eventually pay back.[/QUOTE] I don't know what you are talking about. [editline]01:56AM[/editline] Jury was probably promised a cut of the cash. That's why they ignored the constitution and voted for this fine. [editline]01:57AM[/editline] That or the stereotype is true and Americans are dumb as fuck. I hope it's the first one.
[QUOTE=Robbazking;15649150]This prove my theory. America is fucking dumb, well atleast the law and "the south *Not texas they are fucking awesome*".[/QUOTE] Texas is shit. I vote we detach them from the United States like they always wanted and let Russia have them.
And how do you get caught doing this exactly?...
[QUOTE=MS-DOS4;15645077]I say we burn down the RIAA HQ and execute the CEO on national television![/QUOTE] Sounds like cod4..... [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/9/97/Cod4delay.jpg/500px-Cod4delay.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=IceTea;15661225]And how do you get caught doing this exactly?...[/QUOTE]I believe the RIAA monitors the peer lists of music torrents and other peer-to-peer filesharing protocols that show all of the peers connected. From there, they pick any IP address in the United States and sue their asses for millions of dollars. Which is, odvously, a pretty flawed way of doing business, since it's very easy to use dynamic IP addresses that change over time, use someone elses computer, etc. (which is how [url=http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/researchers-mpaa-riaa-printer-p2p-file-sharing]this[/url] happened).
Hey, you know what we should do donate. Instead of sitting here doing shit, get her life back. But where the fuck does she live in.
As ridiculous as this is, there is nothing "cruel or unusual" about this so, no, this isn't against the 8th amendment. $80,000 is a standard fine for a copy right violation, there were 24 violations 80000 x 24 = 1920000
I'm divided on this. On one hand, I do think that only the copyright holder should be legally allowed to reproduce his/her own works. On the other hand, How can you fine someone for 2 million dollars? Unless she just happens to be rich, she will most definitely have to file for bankruptcy. On the other other hand, she knew the risks, she should accept her penalty. On the other other other hand, a bad law isn't a law at all. [editline]10:29AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;15656380]I don't know what you are talking about. [editline]01:56AM[/editline] Jury was probably promised a cut of the cash. That's why they ignored the constitution and voted for this fine. [editline]01:57AM[/editline] That or the stereotype is true and Americans are dumb as fuck. I hope it's the first one.[/QUOTE] Against the constitution? "The Congress shall have Power [. . .] To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries." edit: Wait, you are right, 8th ammendment, excessive fines.
[QUOTE=Angus;15645085]brb, going to wal-mart to steal two CDs, get caught, and see if my fines total to about 2 mil[/QUOTE] That's not her crime - her crime is the equivalent of going to Walmart, stealing twenty-thousand CDs, and giving them away to other people ;) Either way, the ruling in this case is ridiculous. The RIAA are way over the top and get away with far too much. I seem to recall them having filed suit against dead people, babies, and people that don't even exist in the past...
That kid is why you use uTorrent.
[QUOTE=Doug52392;15661499]I believe the RIAA monitors the peer lists of music torrents and other peer-to-peer filesharing protocols that show all of the peers connected. From there, they pick any IP address in the United States and sue their asses for millions of dollars. Which is, odvously, a pretty flawed way of doing business, since it's very easy to use dynamic IP addresses that change over time, use someone elses computer, etc. (which is how [url=http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/researchers-mpaa-riaa-printer-p2p-file-sharing]this[/url] happened).[/QUOTE] That's a pretty amusing article :)
[QUOTE=ray243;15661492]Sounds like cod4..... [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/9/97/Cod4delay.jpg/500px-Cod4delay.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] That's exactly what was going though my head when I wrote it.
This kids, is why 95% of the music I have I listen to off of a website. Call me dumb, but it's not an inconvenience to me (I gave up downloading most of my music ages ago) What I'd like to know is why they are suing a person who shared 24 songs, when they could nail a person who has download and shared THOUSANDS? It's like letting the big fish swim by and catching the little one instead.
This is financial terrorism.
Who the hell still uses kazaa? :v:
Two questions. Has anyone ever been prosecuted for using the Pirate Bay? I heard about Sweeden trying to crack down but Im fuzzy on the situation. Secondly are certain sites such as Kazaa monitored more closley than other file sharing sites or is it widespread just not common.
[QUOTE=!Rofflens!;15644343]Pretty decent IMO. Learn to cover your tracks you rookies.[/QUOTE] Um. How exactly do you cover yours? Peerguardian? I mean. It's virtually impossible, it's hit or miss.
Cracks me up that on the digital market these songs are worth $1 a piece... yet thousands of dollars are justfied when a court case comes up. I'm not excusing her actions nor attacking her (because no one is innocent in this topic)... just an observation.
This is just sick. It's things like these that make me want to start a revolt. Either that, or start a gigantic protest. Goddamn capitalist-corporatist money-mongers. How long will we let the people in control of money rule the world?
Fuck the RIAA.
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