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libtertarians are secretly the biggest bootlickers of all
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The guy is a fucking idiot. Libertarians that go "hur dur freemarket" and don't want to also fight the regs that were made by big corps to make sure they are the only game in town, are barley libertarians, they are Republicans that want to be a special snowflake
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The level of contempt the political right has for working and middle class families is truly staggering.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;52918097]The level of contempt the political right has for working and middle class families is truly staggering.[/QUOTE]
Didn't something recently come out saying that they saw Middle Class as $450,000 income?
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Look at the bloodsucking parasites dance and sing and claim that you should be [I]grateful[/I] that they're trying to sink their fangs into your neck and drain you and your family of your hard-earned income.
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You can't say the internet isn't a right, you can't apply for a job in this day and age without the internet. I'd imagine you can't get an education without internet access either.
"And the PURSUIT of happiness"
Yes, and if internet providers are going to deny me this happiness no matter who I go through, then they are impeding my rights, therefor Net Neutrality is good, you knob-wombling jizz-rag.
[QUOTE=Ardosos;52918239]You can't say the internet isn't a right, you can't apply for a job in this day and age without the internet. I'd imagine you can't get an education without internet access either.[/QUOTE]
Imagine if books weren't a right. Or newspapers.
Access to information should be a right. It might not have been written into the constitution because the founding fathers probably assumed we would know better than to [I]impede or deny access to information[/I].
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Wow
You don't have the right to the internet, but the internet is information, so I guess we don't have the right to information
Except the UN says we do
I hope you Comcast users enjoy MSNBC because that's soon all you'll be able to load up when you want to look up the news
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this reads like a paid advertisement
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;52918831]this reads like a paid advertisement[/QUOTE]
Considering how bought out Congress is it might as well be
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Truley a man that hasn't had to apply for a job, or manage one's benefits, or take college courses, or....
fuck it. Persuit of happiness REQUIRES the internet today, just like you require running electricity and water today.
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I don't know if EA is for or against Net Neutrality, but looking at this tweed I'd say they are against it.
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entirely ignores the fact that the internet is now a utility on par with running water and electricity. It's a public good. You basically cannot function in modern society without it. Try finding a job without the internet, try finding access to information about state services (I wonder where .gov sites are going to end up in all this), try living without the internet. It's not possible in America, and the people without regular access are typically homeless. Public libraries aren't sufficient either, and will be even less so if net neutrality disappears.
I called my rep the other day and today I got a letter from him thanking me for my call and reaffirming his commitment to keeping net neutrality and fighting for a free internet and all that jazz.
I don't know how much Congress can do about this but it was still nice. Felt like I did something small, you know?
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What about the 400 billion $ that US citizens put into internet infrastructure, which was GIVEN FREELY to the ISPS for a contract that THEY DIDN'T FINISH. Where's their ROI?
The good news about this is that Ajit Pai's bullshit can be struck down in federal court. Crossing my fingers that if this passes, the first action the courts do it strike it down where it stands.
reminder that two people in the FCC already say no to this, one more person flipped and net neutrality will not be repealed.
yell at them.
also Cloudflare will fuck with them by attempting to slow the FCC's Internet if they can find a legal way to do it.
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Anyone with the ability to vote deserves the right to see the stupid shit that candidates are posting
Holy shit that's brilliant. Cloudflare has a vast majority of the internet's traffic going through it at some point by now; this would be incredibly effective.
[QUOTE=Plaster;52919718]I don't know if EA is for or against Net Neutrality, but looking at this tweed I'd say they are against it.[/QUOTE]
Oh they'd gut it in a heartbeat, especially after the right and proper assfucking they've gotten lately. Gutting Net Neutrality guts our ability to yell at them for predatory bullshit. Also lets them negotiate deals with ISPs to steer gaming traffic towards Origin and away from Steam pretty easily.
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[QUOTE=1/4 Life;52920037]Holy shit that's brilliant. Cloudflare has a vast majority of the internet's traffic going through it at some point by now; this would be incredibly effective.[/QUOTE]
Doubly so since they don't have [I]all[/I] traffic. Enough to be a pain in the ass but not enough that the effects of what ISPs do will be laid out nice and bare.
Bonus points if they offer up a paid package to reduce and remove the slowdown :v:
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[QUOTE=Wii60;52920003]reminder that two people in the FCC already say no to this, one more person flipped and net neutrality will not be repealed.
yell at them.
also Cloudflare will fuck with them by attempting to slow the FCC's Internet if they can find a legal way to do it.
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Which one's most likely to flip?
I'm terrified. I'm currently homeschooled and I use an online school, which I want to graduate from eventually so that I can get into college. I'm fucking horrified as to what will happen when NN gets taken away. If I lose access to my online school (which is a big possibility for several reasons, like what if the school can't afford to bribe my ISP into not throttling them to high hell, as well as the fact that my family is on the lower end of middle class and the monthly fees we'll end up paying because of this shit would probably mean we basically couldn't use the internet anymore) I'm so scared that I won't have a future, and that my dreams of going to college won't happen because I won't be able to graduate.
Not to mention that the shit on the internet is one of the only things keeping my major depressive disorder at bay. This shit genuinely makes me want to kill myself.
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;52918831]this reads like a paid advertisement[/QUOTE]
It's just objectivist libertariansm.. You only have the right to the pursuit of happiness, but if your pursuit fails, sucks to be you! But really, you deserve to wallow in poverty anyway, you dumb ape. The rich sure didn't have any problems becoming rich, did they? Go get yourself some talent, and pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
...I feel sick just typing that.
[QUOTE=roman117;52920358]I'm terrified. I'm currently homeschooled and I use an online school, which I want to graduate from eventually so that I can get into college. I'm fucking horrified as to what will happen when NN gets taken away. If I lose access to my online school (which is a big possibility for several reasons, like what if the school can't afford to bribe my ISP into not throttling them to high hell, as well as the fact that my family is on the lower end of middle class and the monthly fees we'll end up paying because of this shit would probably mean we basically couldn't use the internet anymore) I'm so scared that I won't have a future, and that my dreams of going to college won't happen because I won't be able to graduate.
Not to mention that the shit on the internet is one of the only things keeping my major depressive disorder at bay. This shit genuinely makes me want to kill myself.[/QUOTE]
And that's precisely what these corrupt cumstains in office want. They don't give a shit if you can get a job or finish school, hell, they don't give a shit if the internet helps you with major mental issues. All they give a shit about is squeezing you for money and what happens after you pay the bill is irrelevant to them.
And that, I think, is why so few people seem to be defending the repeal, that the only people defending it are the ones pushing it in the first place, ones that stand to make massive short-term profits off of it.
Can we all take a moment to take a breath, step back, and not assume we won't be fucked in every conceivable bodily crevice?
I'm for NN, I think with how monopolized many of the ISPs are it's necessary for a healthy internet because they most certainly [I]will[/I] take advantage, but I'm a bit more cautious to assume [B]everyone is out to get me[/B] and I think everyone should be a bit more cautious of that mentality as well, because it's a very toxic and unproductive mindset to have.
We need to work to ensure NN stays, but don't be insane about it.
[QUOTE=Deathking15;52920928]We need to work to ensure NN stays, but don't be insane about it.[/QUOTE]
The reason we're being insane about it is
1. Once NN is gone it's gone for good.
2. Once 4chan is dead all the people who got their trolling fix from there will have to move on, either onto twitter (good luck) or into the real world. Kidnapping a flag is a lot less harmful in hindsight when compared to how much damage 4chan can inflict in the real world, especially since they won't get instant gratification from seeing their victim's reactions.
[QUOTE=Deathking15;52920928]Can we all take a moment to take a breath, step back, and not assume we won't be fucked in every conceivable bodily crevice?
I'm for NN, I think with how monopolized many of the ISPs are it's necessary for a healthy internet because they most certainly [I]will[/I] take advantage, but I'm a bit more cautious to assume [B]everyone is out to get me[/B] and I think everyone should be a bit more cautious of that mentality as well, because it's a very toxic and unproductive mindset to have.
We need to work to ensure NN stays, but don't be insane about it.[/QUOTE]
People aren't just arbitrarily freaking out about the US losing Net Neutrality protections and automatically assuming the worst. Every fear people have raised is a legitimate concern and comes from things ISPs have [I]actually done[/I], either in the US itself or other countries
ISPs in nations without NN protections have sold services piecemeal. ISPs within the US have suppressed and blocked services that compete with their businesses in the past and absolutely will do it again. The Canadian ISP Telus once blocked access to a server hosting a website for a labor strike against them
It isn't alarmism, it's [I]what can actually happen[/I] and [I]has happened[/I] in other nations
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