Iran’s supreme leader warns US and Israel against military strike, says Tehran will respond
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[quote]TEHRAN, Iran — Iran’s supreme leader on Thursday warned Israel and the United States that Tehran’s response will be tough should its archenemies choose a military strike against Iran over the country’s controversial nuclear program.
[b]“Anybody who takes up the idea of an attack on Iran, should get ready to receive a strong slap and an iron fist” by the Iranian armed forces, said Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.[/b]
Khamenei spoke two days after the U.N. atomic agency released a report that for the first time said Iran is suspected of conducting secret experiments whose sole purpose is the development of nuclear arms.
The report was the International Atomic Energy Agency’s most unequivocal yet in suggesting Iran is using the cover of a peaceful nuclear program to produce atomic weaponry. Iran insists it is pursuing nuclear energy for peaceful purposes.
On Wednesday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad slammed the IAEA report, defiantly [b]saying Tehran would not retreat “an iota” from its nuclear program, which includes enriching uranium — a potential path to making a nuclear bomb.[/b]
The U.S. and its allies are concerned that a nuclear-armed Iran could touch off a nuclear arms race among rival states, including Saudi Arabia, and directly threaten Israel. Four rounds of U.N. sanctions so far have not succeeded in getting Tehran to halt its enrichment program.
Israel sees Iran as an existential threat, citing Ahmadinejad’s calls for Israel’s destruction and Iran’s support for Arab militant groups. Ahead of the IAEA report’s release on Tuesday, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak had said that without effective sanctions, Israel would not take any option “off the table,” a reference to possible military action.
Khamenei’s rhetoric Thursday was just as defiant — an indication that Iran is seriously viewing comments by the West in the aftermath of the IAEA report and in particular, by Israel on a possible military strike against its nuclear facilities.
“The enemies, particularly the United States and its pawns and the Zionist regime, should know that the Iranian nation does not seek to invade any country or nation,” Khamenei said, addressing officers at a military academy in Tehran.
“But Iran will strongly respond to any invasion or attack with such power and in a way that the aggressors and invaders will be smashed from the inside,” said Khamenei, who has final say on all state matters in Iran. His remarks were quoted by state radio.
“The Iranian nation is not a nation that only sits and watches threats coming from straw powers, which are internally eaten by worms,” he added.
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Damn.
Nobody is going to attack Iran.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;33214990]Nobody is going to attack Iran.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
yeah that generally happens when you declare war on another country, they fight back
[QUOTE=lukepker;33214996]I wouldn't be so sure about that.[/QUOTE]
What will that achieve exactly? A delay in their nuclear program? Doesn't really matter, they're going to get it anyway in the end.
The only foreseeable ways I can see anything ever stopping Iran from achieving a nuclear weapon can be achieved through these measures-
1. Massive sanctions and diplomatic relations. Unlikely, as nations have been in worse economic situations than Iran (see: North Korea) and still managed to develop nukes.
2. A change in regime, which will agree to stop the nuclear process. Very very very unlikely.
3. A military [b]invasion[/b], not just attack, from another state. Sure as hell not going to be Israel, we are far less equipped for any large scale invasion of a state which isn't even bordering us. The only nation I can see plausibly achieving this is the US, and they didn't do dick when NK got their nuke so I doubt they'll pull anything now. Again, this option too is very unlikely.
Conclusion- Nothing will happen, and all this talk about an "attack" is just political rallying intended to draw people away from any fuck up the government might be causing, especially in Israel.
something better happen, this is the most entertainment world news has given me in years. inshallah israel will explode.
Good for them.
As long as they only defend themselves, I see no problem.
Ofcourse they are going to respond.
What? Will they just immediately surrender or something when attacked?
[QUOTE=Primus;33215142]something better happen, this is the most entertainment world news has given me in years. inshallah israel will explode.[/QUOTE]
That would be against your governments interests and horrible on personal levels too.
Couldn't come quicker to be honest, this week has been a sickly lul for me.
Nuclear war would be a massively more interesting end to the week.
Imagine if Israel, Usa or Iran launch a nuke. End of the world party woooooooo! :dance:
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[QUOTE=Clunj;33215668]Couldn't come quicker to be honest, this week has been a sickly lul for me.
Nuclear war would be a massively more interesting end to the week.[/QUOTE]
Surely it wouldn't be a nuclear war if they are only in the process of making the bomb.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;33215131]yeah that generally happens when you declare war on another country, they fight back[/QUOTE]
unless you're the french
US didn't act when NK got supposed nuclear capability because, the launch tests were a joke and the NK army is starving from the sounds of it. South Korea isn't a huge alley of the US compared to Israel either, so they have reduced influence. Tension can only mount for so long before something happens, Iran doesn't seem like they would mess around for too long.
I just hope I don't see a nuke attack in my lifetime.
Has anyone considered that they might, you know, actually have nuclear development programs for peaceful purposes? I'm not really into this political back story, but uranium enrichment is a vital process in producing reactor fuel, and nuclear power is a pretty awesome thing to have. Is Iran's bad relations with some nations the sole reason everyone is dead set on that they're making nukes?
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;33216219]Has anyone considered that they might, you know, actually have nuclear development programs for peaceful purposes? I'm not really into this political back story, but uranium enrichment is a vital process in producing reactor fuel, and nuclear power is a pretty awesome thing to have. Is Iran's bad relations with some nations the sole reason everyone is dead set on that they're making nukes?[/QUOTE]
"UN: Iran is making a nuclear warhead"
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1138999[/url]
[QUOTE=Glorbo;33216394]"UN: Iran is making a nuclear warhead"
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1138999[/url]
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"U.S. Official: IAEA Report ‘Does [b]Not[/b] Assert That Iran Has Resumed A Full Scale Nuclear Weapons Program’"
[url]http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/11/08/364519/white-house-iaea-report-iran/[/url]
Awesome, we sure could use HD footage of a nuke. All the videos on youtube are too grainy. On a serious note, Iran is highly unlikely to drop the first nuke, they'd be glassed within the hour.
Iran really doesn't know the tech and size of the US army
[QUOTE=kimr120;33216643]Iran really doesn't know the tech and size of the US army[/QUOTE]
Or they've just got balls of steel.
[QUOTE=hegrec;33216590]Awesome, we sure could use HD footage of a nuke. All the videos on youtube are too grainy. On a serious note, Iran is highly unlikely to drop the first nuke, they'd be glassed within the hour.[/QUOTE]
It's not like Israel wouldn't be glassed too. One bomb on Tel Aviv, and it's over. 3,206,400 people live in the Tel Aviv Metropolitan Area, about 42.1% of the entire population. That area also holds a major part in our economy.
[QUOTE=MisterM;33215847]US didn't act when NK got supposed nuclear capability because, the launch tests were a joke and the NK army is starving from the sounds of it. South Korea isn't a huge alley of the US compared to Israel either, so they have reduced influence. Tension can only mount for so long before something happens, Iran doesn't seem like they would mess around for too long.
I just hope I don't see a nuke attack in my lifetime.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't use North Korea as an example. Their army might be closer to Saddam's during the Gulf War, but they've packed so many anti-aircraft batteries, landmines, and everything possible that could even remotely be used to kill you into everywhere that isn't directly under people's homes so that if anyone tried to invade, it would be a living hell. Even getting across the DMZ is going to be a massacre.
It's not that the South Koreans and the US don't get along, so much as the fact that only a retard would storm into North Korea guns blazing.
More to the point, this is likely the case with Iran as well. Unless *everyone* ganged up on them, quickly and/or quietly neutralized their nuclear capability, an invasion is likely a bad move unless all of the neighboring states are prepared to steamroll Iran. Of course, at that point, you also have to account that Russia does not want any sort of military strikes, so that opens up an entirely different can of worms.
[QUOTE=kimr120;33216643]Iran really doesn't know the tech and size of the US army[/QUOTE]
Their actions don't really mean that.
Plenty of Iranians go to my school, they're pretty chill too :v:
[QUOTE=wanksta11;33225054]Plenty of Iranians go to my school, they're pretty chill too :v:[/QUOTE]
But the leader of Iran wants to iirc "wipe Israel of the map"
Oh and I guess shit just got Israel :v:
Israel is like the badass asian kid that knows karate, Iran is like an overweight JV Wrestler.
USA = fucking Brock Lesnar
[quote]If you declare war on us, we'll fight back![/quote]
Holy shit
[QUOTE=italics560;33226670]Israel is like the badass asian kid that knows karate, Iran is like an overweight JV Wrestler.
USA = fucking Brock Lesnar[/QUOTE]
I though this was a good description for the US.
[quote=Al-Hayat]the United States is like that boy in the street who found out that none of the other kids want to play with him, so he decided to take his ball and go back home.[/quote]
Yeah, they'd be crushed.
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