• 65 years old knocked off his bicycle by three kids. Results? One dead, one wounded, one in jail
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[QUOTE=Primigenes;38169744]Think carefully before you do something risky then.[/QUOTE] are you implying that the kids had the choice to think otherwise?
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169764]are you implying that the kids had the choice to think otherwise?[/QUOTE]Who forced them to mug a 65 year old man?
[QUOTE=Kopimi;38169726]what a terribly psychopathic way of saying you're happy a 15 year old is dead because he assaulted someone[/QUOTE] Nowhere did I say I was happy about what happened. Only thing I'm probably sad about is the fact that these kids probably grew up in broken families and moral education was neglected by their parents.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;38169744]Think carefully before you do something risky then.[/QUOTE] the dude was justified but the fact that this has 108 winners is fuckin nutter kids fuck up and do terrible stupid shit. yeah the old guy was justified but i'm not going to celebrate and praise him for shooting some kids. [editline]24th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Hullu V3;38169783]Nowhere did I say I was happy about what happened. Only thing I'm probably sad about is the fact that these kids probably grew up in broken families and moral education was neglected by their parents.[/QUOTE] it was sorta implied when you so valiantly opposed me calling someone out for saying "good riddance"
[QUOTE=Scot;38167787]So some old man's belongings are worth more than a kid's life. Sure.[/QUOTE] Yes, a kid who more than likely will be in and out of prison for his whole life, judging by he was on probation already and was going out jumping and robbing random people. In my opinion, his life isn't worth much. At least the people of Pennsylvania don't have to waste money on him by sending him to prison.
[QUOTE=avaz;38169797]Yes, a kid who more than likely will be in and out of prison for his whole life, judging by he was on probation already and was going out jumping and robbing random people. In my opinion, his life isn't worth much. At least the people of Pennsylvania don't have to waste money on him by sending him to prison.[/QUOTE] psychopath detected beep beep bebeep beep
[QUOTE=Kopimi;38169786]the dude was justified but the fact that this has 108 winners is fuckin nutter kids fuck up and do terrible stupid shit. yeah the old guy was justified but i'm not going to celebrate and praise him for shooting some kids.[/QUOTE] You should try to understand that some people here might not be the brightest stars in the sky. There are no real winners in this case.
[QUOTE=avaz;38169797]Yes, a kid who more than likely will be in and out of prison for his whole life, judging by he was on probation already and was going out jumping and robbing random people. In my opinion, his life isn't worth much. At least the people of Pennsylvania don't have to waste money on him by sending him to prison.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, are you serious?
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;38169776]Who forced them to mug a 65 year old man?[/QUOTE] their human condition forced them to. the result of poverty, a poor education, and seeing their peers do it.
[QUOTE=HazzaHardie;38167706]eh I think killing a child is a little harsh for attempted robbery[/QUOTE] From what it sounds they hadn't made any demands or anything and were still beating on him. I guess all he thought was, "I'm going to die if I don't do something".
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169824]their human condition forced them to. the result of poverty, a poor education, and seeing their peers do it.[/QUOTE] That's quite an assumption to make. Was something said about their living conditions in the OP?
[QUOTE=avaz;38169797]In my opinion, his life isn't worth much.[/QUOTE] hi there mister utilitarian, how's being batshit insane working out for you?
[QUOTE=Bobie;38167668]why the fuck are you guys praising a child killer lol[/QUOTE] Are you fucking kidding me?
All you guys complaining about the kid's death, go get mugged. Seriously, thinking about being in that situation and actually getting mugged are two fucking entirely different things.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169824]their human condition forced them to. the result of poverty, a poor education, and seeing their peers do it.[/QUOTE] where in the article does it say that? your just assuming shit.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169824]their human condition forced them to. the result of poverty, a poor education, and seeing their peers do it.[/QUOTE] His human precondition for survival "forced" him to act in self defense. If you're going to act like an intellectual, at least have some trace of coherent thought.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;38169862]That's quite an assumption to make. Was something said about their living conditions in the OP?[/QUOTE] well that is kinda the way conditioning works brought up poorly -> act poorly -> attempt to mug someone why do you think a vast majority of people in prison are also incredibly poor
If I was an old man who was knocked down and attacked by 3 teens I would be scared as hell and shoot them as well. Not much I would be able to do to protect myself.
[QUOTE=YourFriendJoe;38169885]All you guys complaining about the kid's death, go get mugged.[/QUOTE] So you think it's a good thing that a teenager got shot and killed, then?
He shoulda shot all 3. 3 dead criminals, 1 dangerous old guy in jail. Who wins? society.
I'm not going to blame the old guy for what he did, but it's rather unsettling to see how many people have this "People got killed and wounded, awesome!" mentality.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169824]their human condition forced them to. the result of poverty, a poor education, and seeing their peers do it.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but how mentally insane are you? If you're going to make [I]wild [/I]assumptions like that then I'm also going to say the fact that he's a brittle veteran of 65 and has diabetes and other blood illnesses, he was forced to defend him self. If he didn't he would have gotten injuries that he would be unable to recover from. He also could have gotten a big cut which he would be incapable of healing due to his insulin and blood issues which would have gotten severely infected and inoperable. Additionally his diabetes gave him poor eye sight so when his glasses fell off, he wasn't able to easily make out the threat, and thus felt threatened. (Notice how I'm being as assumptious as you are) because none of any of that info is in the article. Not yours or mine. But it's still justifiable what he did, despite untimely and unwanted deaths. [I]He did his best.[/I]. What do you think the old man should have done? Get beaten? get over yourself :v: [QUOTE=avaz;38169797]Yes, a kid who more than likely will be in and out of prison for his whole life, judging by he was on probation already and was going out jumping and robbing random people. In my opinion, his life isn't worth much. At least the people of Pennsylvania don't have to waste money on him by sending him to prison.[/QUOTE] In my opinion, your life isn't worth much.
[QUOTE=J!NX;38170040]I'm sorry but how mentally insane are you? If you're going to make [I]wild [/I]assumptions like that then I'm also going to say the fact that he's a brittle veteran of 65 and has diabetes and other blood illnesses, he was forced to defend him self. If he didn't he would have gotten injuries that he would be unable to recover from. He also could have gotten a big cut which he would be incapable of healing due to his insulin and blood issues which would have gotten severely infected and inoperable. because none of any of that info is in the article. Not yours or mine. But it's still justifiable what he did, despite untimely and unwanted deaths. [I]He did his best.[/I] What do you think the old man should have done? Get beaten? get over yourself :v: In my opinion, your life isn't worth much.[/QUOTE] you know what causes crime right oh yeah it must be free choice cause that exists doesnt it basic neuroscience bro
[QUOTE=Bobie;38170085]you know what causes crime right oh yeah it must be free choice cause that exists doesnt it basic neuroscience bro[/QUOTE] You'd have to be incredibly ignorant if you don't understand that humans are capable of free will. And the one animal truly capable of having individuality and self awareness. We are far more advanced and evolved than a monkey. By age 16 we are capable easily of individual thought and being self dependent. They chose to rob instead of get a job. They could have easily taken the "Good karma" route but chose not to. Not because they were poor, because they were poor decision makers. Lincoln wasn't assassinated because someone had no choice. He was assassinated because a man chose to pull a trigger and blow his fucking brains out. basic brain knowledge here, bro
[QUOTE=J!NX;38170115]You'd have to be incredibly ignorant if you don't understand that humans are capable of free will. And the one animal truly capable of having individuality and self awareness. We are far more advanced and evolved than a monkey. basic brain knowledge here, bro[/QUOTE] free will is an illogical concept which stems from abrahamic religion, used as the basis for punishment against those who disagreed with them because it was 'their choice'. there is no, and never has been, any empirical evidence that free will exists. there is plenty of [URL="http://pacherie.free.fr/COURS/MSC/Libet-JCS1999.pdf"]evidence that free will does not exist[/URL]
[QUOTE=Bobie;38170182]free will is an illogical concept which stems from abrahamic religion, used as the basis for punishment against those who disagreed with them because it was 'their choice'. there is no, and never has been, any empirical evidence that free will exists. there is plenty of [URL="http://pacherie.free.fr/COURS/MSC/Libet-JCS1999.pdf"]evidence that free will does not exist[/URL][/QUOTE] Next I bet you're going to say we're in a computer simulation and we're all just programs. You sure are a bad program. Also, you do realize that you choose to continuously play devils advocate and I choose to argue simply because I chose to? I may be 'program'd' to act a certain way but I sure do know I have freedom of choice.
[QUOTE=J!NX;38170197]Next I bet you're going to say we're in a computer simulation and we're all just programs. You sure are a bad program.[/QUOTE] if there were empirical evidence that we were a computer simulation, then i would have to accept it. however, at the moment, there's plenty of other stuff that doesn't have evidence like, the existence of a god, flying spaghetti monster, extra-terrestrial life etc so i cant accept that we are a computer simulation off of the basis of personal judgement.
Facepunch is like a liberal stormfront now seriously, it's not okay to rob people just because you're poor, especially a 65 year old, and especially not with the violence these fuckwits used. This old man had the sense to be packing and it paid off for him; he very easily could have died as a result. e: hey bobie wrong rating there pal i'm actually [I]disagreeing[/I] with you
Kinda funny how a discussion about a 65 year old shooting 3 teenagers in an attempted mugging turns into a debate over the existence of free will. gg
I'm not cheering and glad for the end result of this, but I think the dude had to do what he had to do.
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