65 years old knocked off his bicycle by three kids. Results? One dead, one wounded, one in jail
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[QUOTE=Bobie;38168546]ok he was pushed on his bike and kicked once, by 2 kids
then he gunned down 3 kids and 2 of them happened to survive
and i don't understand your argument. you're referring to my first post, yes, he's a child killer. get over it.[/QUOTE]
he was someone who defended himself the only way he could
to call him a child killer is a stretch. he doesn't go out of his way to kill children. he was put into a situation where his only line of defense was a firearm.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168546]ok he was pushed on his bike and kicked once, by 2 kids
then he gunned down 3 kids and 2 of them happened to survive
and i don't understand your argument. you're referring to my first post, yes, he's a child killer. get over it.[/QUOTE]
It's an old fucking man. If he falls from his bed the wrong way he will die. He could've easily died to that punch OR on his way down to the ground.
Why didn't he taze them?
[sp]am I too late?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168546]ok he was pushed on his bike and kicked once, by 2 kids
then he gunned down 3 kids and 2 of them happened to survive
and i don't understand your argument. you're referring to my first post, yes, he's a child killer. get over it.[/QUOTE]
He was punched from his bike and then kicked, he drew his gun and shot the kid who assaulted him and the kid who was heading towards him.
I'm not sure, but I think there a "reading comprehension class", right?
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;38168591]It's an old fucking man. If he falls from his bed the wrong way he will die. He could've easily died to that punch OR on his way down to the ground.[/QUOTE]
Plus he was punched off the bike and then one of the kids ran and began kicking him.
I will never understand people who say what he did was "excessive". It's like you expect everyone to have the martial prowess of Batman, and are able to know exactly how to incapacitate any and all threats that come their way.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168546]ok he was pushed on his bike and kicked once, by 2 kids
then he gunned down 3 kids and 2 of them happened to survive
and i don't understand your argument. you're referring to my first post, yes, he's a child killer. get over it.[/QUOTE]
Actually a child usually refers to someone under 14.
lmao
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[QUOTE=Tureis;38168625]I will never understand people who say what he did was "excessive". It's like you expect everyone to have the martial prowess of Batman, and are able to know exactly how to incapacitate any and all threats that come their way.[/QUOTE]
I didn't see anyone saying it was excessive?
[QUOTE=Stopper;38168622]He was punched from his bike and then kicked, he drew his gun and shot the kid who assaulted him and the kid who was heading towards him.
I'm not sure, but I think there a "reading comprehension class", right?[/QUOTE]
so you're justifying killing with 'possible assault'
if someone runs towards you would you feel justified in killing them
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;38168643]I didn't see anyone saying it was excessive?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HazzaHardie;38167706]eh I think killing a child is a little harsh for attempted robbery[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;38168635]Actually a child usually refers to someone under 14.[/QUOTE]
Really, by what standards? Because by every official standard someone below 18 is considered a child.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168656]so you're justifying killing with 'possible assault'
if someone runs towards you would you feel justified in killing them[/QUOTE]
did you even read the OP?
he was getting wailed on by 3 kids with his back to a fence
and now you're pulling out situations that have no relevance to what happened in the OP
congratulations! execute my title immediately
this is the holy grail of not reading the OP
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168656]so you're justifying killing with 'possible assault'
if someone runs towards you would you feel justified in killing them[/QUOTE]
If they assaulted me beforehand, yes.
[QUOTE=Tureis;38168657]*quotes*[/QUOTE]
You disagree with someone being killed for attempted robbery? Considering the situations, the fact that he pulled a gun wasn't excessive. But you picked a bad example.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168656]so you're justifying killing with 'possible assault'
if someone runs towards you would you feel justified in killing them[/QUOTE]
If their friend was seconds ago beating the shit out of me, then yes, I do.
"That person from the same gang is running towards me. Better wait, because he might come and pat me on the back, unlike his dead friend."
Your logic is fucking amazing.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168656]so you're justifying killing with 'possible assault'
if someone runs towards you would you feel justified in killing them[/QUOTE]
If someone punches me off my bike, runs toward me [B]intent on hurting me[/B] then start kicking me while I [B]cant fight back[/B],
Yeah, I would feel pretty justified.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168656]so you're justifying killing with 'possible assault'
if someone runs towards you would you feel justified in killing them[/QUOTE]Possible? It was already assault. How the fuck do you not understand that? Its not a hard concept to grasp. Hell, I garuntee these teens understood it. I'm willing to bet a twelve year old could understand it.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168656]so you're justifying killing with 'possible assault'
if someone runs towards you would you feel justified in killing them[/QUOTE]
holy siht read the fucking op
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168656]so you're justifying killing with 'possible assault'
if someone runs towards you would you feel justified in killing them[/QUOTE]
You are like a bastion of 'missing the point'.
bobie shut the fuck up
do you have literal brain damage or can you not read
[QUOTE=Protocol7;38168679]did you even read the OP?
he was getting wailed on by 3 kids with his back to a fence
and now you're pulling out situations that have no relevance to what happened in the OP
congratulations! execute my title immediately[/QUOTE]
wow asking me to kill myself how's puberty treating you
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;38168694]If their friend was seconds ago beating the shit out of me, then yes, I do.
"That person from the same gang is running towards me. Better wait, because he might come and pat me on the back, unlike his dead friend."
Your logic is fucking amazing.[/QUOTE]
why did he fire off more than one shot if he was attempting to protect himself then.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168546]ok he was pushed on his bike and kicked once, by 2 kids
then he gunned down 3 kids and 2 of them happened to survive
and i don't understand your argument. you're referring to my first post, yes, he's a child killer. get over it.[/QUOTE]
Yeah ok I'd like to see what you'd do if you were a brittle old man getting the shit beaten out of you by 3 teenagers.
And don't just come up with the 'I'd just try to scare them off' excuse because that's bullshit and you know it.
This whole situation sucks. It [I]is[/I] tragic that someone had to die over it, but that's what happens when you threaten a person's life. They aren't just gonna sit back while their well being is being threatened.
pls stop living in planet idealism and return to the real world thanks
People in this thread seem to have a hard time seeing the differences of getting beat by three children and three teenagers.
Here's something to refresh your thoughts.
Child
[img]http://www.optometryroseville.com/uploaded_images/business_images/0003/2325/Child-Exam.jpg[/img]
Teenagers
[img]http://ncfy.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/u9/teen-boys-1.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Scot;38167688]Um what the fuck, how is a crazy old man killing a child who simply knocked him over a good thing?
You guys are fucked up.[/QUOTE]
Lol are you kidding? This wasn't like a "I'm so poor I have to rob to stay alive" scenario.
These kids are a fucking nuisance to society. One was already on probation, with probation officers visiting his home earlier that day. They even put a tracking anklet on him, imagine the type of shit that a 15 year old has to get into in order to warrant a tracking device. They were ordered to meet with the police later that day, but they decided to go out and rob people instead. And it wasn't an isolated incident either, they robbed/assaulted 2 people before coming upon this old man. And then they pushed him off his bike and started beating him. The kids completely fucking deserved it. I have no remorse for the kid's death. Maybe the two that survived will learn a lesson from this and straighten their lives out.
You're seriously an idiot if you actually think that the guy is at fault here. From his perspective, he's biking down a path when all of a sudden some kid punches him in the face, knocking him off his bike. He has his back to a fence, and they start beating him. There's no time to reason with the kids, nor would it have worked. How do you possibly see him getting out of the situation? Do you seriously think he can think of something so persuasive that it would cause the kids to stop beating him and leave him alone? This is the very definition of someone who deserved to get shot. Fortunately the man had a gun, and he used it. He was an old man, not young like their first two victims. At his age he could have died from getting beaten up by 3 teens.
You're a fucking hypocrite if you think what he did was wrong. If you were in the same situation you would have done the same damn thing. In that situation there's no time for complex thoughts, just actions. And it's not like reasoning and logic would have even worked against these 3. I hope that one day you face a situation like this just so you can watch as people criticize you for making a decision when you had no other option.
The amount of agrees that that post has is disgusting.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168742]wow asking me to kill myself how's puberty treating you
why did he fire off more than one shot if he was attempting to protect himself then.[/QUOTE]
"I am being beaten by three people, oh god oh god oh god, get away from me you pesky little fucks!"
Heat of the moment.
Holy shit, go to sleep, you're drunk.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168742]wow asking me to kill myself how's puberty treating you
why did he fire off more than one shot if he was attempting to protect himself then.[/QUOTE]
Are you serious
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;38168673]Really, by what standards? Because by every official standard someone below 18 is considered a child.[/QUOTE]
Anyone under 18 is a minor. I think the child thing exist in common law, thats the closest thing to a legal definition.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168742]wow asking me to kill myself how's puberty treating you
why did he fire off more than one shot if he was attempting to protect himself then.[/QUOTE]
BECAUSE HE WAS BEING ASSAULTED BY MORE THAN ONE PERSON.
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