65 years old knocked off his bicycle by three kids. Results? One dead, one wounded, one in jail
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[QUOTE=BusterBluth;38169365][/quote] [B]As one of the teens ran toward the man[/B], he shot Johnson and the 15-year-old.[/quote]
That by every definition means he was shot after the gun was pulled.[/QUOTE]
the time between retrieving a concealed weapon and firing can be a very short one.
[QUOTE=Lyonidis;38169353]While I am saddened the result was death, the shooting is justified due to self defense[/QUOTE]
This is the mistake people are making. His act of self-defense is justified, but the death of the kid isn't
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169276]
and i haven't insulted anyone...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bobie;38168863]maybe you guys should get therapy[/QUOTE]
This is an insult by the way.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169410]
the time between retrieving a concealed weapon and firing can be a very short one.[/QUOTE]
Yes, your point?
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169410][B]As one of the teens ran toward the man[/B], he shot Johnson and the 15-year-old.[/quote]
That by every definition means he was shot after the gun was pulled.[/QUOTE]
the time between retrieving a concealed weapon and firing can be a very short one.[/QUOTE]
Someone who is at point blank range can overman you before you have the chance to shoot him.
[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;38169421]This is an insult by the way.[/QUOTE]
are you feeling insulted?
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;38169422]Yes, your point?[/QUOTE]
he didn't warn them in any way and they could have never known he had a gun on them. which is why i'm saying, if they knew about his gun that couldve changed everything.
[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;38169421]This is an insult by the way.[/QUOTE]
don't forget I got called prepubescent for telling him to cleanse himself from the gene pool
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;38169422]Yes, your point?[/QUOTE]
maybe he was trying to run away but alas, since he's a poor kid he couldn't tell the right direction :(
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;38169165]Is Bobie Dori's secret disguise or something?[/QUOTE]
Nah he's just an extreme lefty, social liberalist sort of guy by the looks of it. I agree with quite a few of his opinions on most things tbh
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169449]are you feeling insulted?
he didn't warn them in any way and they could have never known he had a gun on them. which is why i'm saying, if they knew about his gun that couldve changed everything.[/QUOTE]
they're beating the shit out of him. why would he warn them? the damage had been done
[QUOTE=Protocol7;38169460]don't forget I got called prepubescent for telling him to cleanse himself from the gene pool[/QUOTE]
i asked you a harmless question. you told me to kill myself
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[QUOTE=Scot;38167787]So some old man's belongings are worth more than a kid's life. Sure.[/QUOTE]
Are you fucking serious right now
You obviously never been mugged before
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169449]
he didn't warn them in any way and they could have never known he had a gun on them. which is why i'm saying, if they knew about his gun that couldve changed everything.[/QUOTE]
Once again, as Iv said many times, he didn't have time to wave it around and shout warnings, he was being fucking rushed.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169449]
he didn't warn them in any way and they could have never known he had a gun on them. which is why i'm saying, if they knew about his gun that couldve changed everything.[/QUOTE]
He was already assaulted, knocked to the ground, from the bike, out numbered and you are saying [B]HE[/B] should have given forewarning that he could cause fatal injuries?
You can't be serious.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;38169476]they're beating the shit out of him. why would he warn them? the damage had been done[/QUOTE]
Unlikely they would even care if he managed to say "get off me or I'll shoot you" anyway.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;38169487]Once again, as Iv said many times, he didn't have time to wave it around and shout warnings, he was being fucking rushed.[/QUOTE]
you know what. i totally understand what he did, given the situation he was in and the time it happned within. fuck it guys im sorry
i think however, this may have been a totally different situation in a system that had better gun education, and education in general. who the fuck knows
ITT: Attorneys of the law
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169449]are you feeling insulted?[/QUOTE]
Not really, that is still an insult by definition though.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;38169510]Unlikely they would even care if he managed to say "get off me or I'll shoot you" anyway.[/QUOTE]
and when you're 14/15 you don't think clearly anyway.
I could of sworn this same thing happened years ago.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169519]you know what. i totally understand what he did, given the situation he was in and the time it happned within. fuck it guys im sorry
i think however, this may have been a totally different situation in a system that had better gun education, and education in general. who the fuck knows[/QUOTE]
What the fuck has gun education to do with this like AT ALL?
Only way this shit could've been avoided would've been:
A) if the old man was shouting all the way from point a to point b on his journey "BTW I HAVE A FUCKING GUN, SO DON'T MUG ME PLZ!"
B) The kids would've gone and mown some lawns rather than mugging people.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;38169590]What the fuck has gun education to do with this like AT ALL?
Only way this shit could've been avoided would've been:
A) if the old man was shouting all the way from point a to point b on his journey "BTW I HAVE A FUCKING GUN, SO DON'T MUG ME PLZ!"
B) The kids would've gone and mown some lawns rather than mugging people.[/QUOTE]
i don't see what you're trying to argue here
are you implying that all kids be forced to work at lawn mowing camps?
Odd amount of controversy in here. So a few teenagers wanted to play thugs. They took the risks and they lost the game.
im joking but seriously if he panicked and adrenaline caught a hold of him then maybe there should be a program to help people deal with that
fuckin automerge
The kid who went to hospital didn't get any charges right?
[QUOTE=Bobie;38169618]i don't see what you're trying to argue here
are you implying that all kids be forced to work at lawn mowing camps?[/QUOTE]
There are a fuckton of ways for kids to make some pocket money for candy. Other than mugging old dudes, which seems to get you killed.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;38169647]There are a fuckton of ways for kids to make some pocket money for candy. Other than mugging old dudes, which seems to get you killed.[/QUOTE]
or a better education system
otherwise you're just going to over-saturate the market for candy
[QUOTE=SweetSwifter;38167646]Good riddance.[/QUOTE]
yeah good riddance to some adolescents who made one mistake and lost their lives for it
[QUOTE=Kopimi;38169689]yeah good riddance to some adolescents who made one mistake and lost their lives for it[/QUOTE]
Sometimes you need only one mistake.
Better not make them.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;38169711]Sometimes you need only one mistake.
Better not make them.[/QUOTE]
what a terribly psychopathic way of saying you're happy a 15 year old is dead because he assaulted someone
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