Florida school produces waivers to ‘be excused from reciting’ Pledge of Allegiance at school'
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[QUOTE=man who feels the need to change quote names;50948264]um. that's what they're saying. they're arguing that it is harmless and doesn't indoctrinate kids, and that it is a waste of everybody's time. nobody said it had a positive effect. Do you think you're arguing against somebody?[/QUOTE]
if it doesn't have any positive effect and it's a waste of time then it should be removed and everyone's happy
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50948643]Yeah I mean my argument hinges on the fact that it doesn't have an effect at all, an argument that I think is far better supported than the allegations that saying the pledge a lot turns Americans into brainwashed patriotic drones.[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone has said it literally turns you into brainwashed patriotic drones. It's basically a very odd and regular form of advertising which makes you more prone to accepting patriotic ideas about America, which is quite weird to be throwing at children. Also, if not it's a waste of time, so should be scrapped.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50947375]There are only so many ways to try and communicate how in reality saying the pledge is a mundane morning ritual rather than a nationalistic brainwashing.[/QUOTE]
Things being said over and over makes them familiar and therefore more likely to be accepted as true, that's why you say them over and over, to make them seem normal and to embed them in your brain. There's a reason it's a mundane morning ritual. And if it is completely meaningless, which is unlikely since nothing is completely meaningless, then it's a waste of precious school time in an economy where education budgets are already stretched thin.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;50942474]It's telling that the only people saying this OK are Americans.[/QUOTE]
Hi, i am not a born American, and i think this is being taken out of hand. I never liked doing the pledge and others felt the same, but in the end it never even mattered, no one cared if you did it, and even those who did it never took it seriously.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;50940669]man some of yall are really melodramatic about this.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like it worked then
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