Putin approval rating soars to 83%, approval of EU & US in the single digits while approval China at
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[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45438217]Judging by the rest of your posts I have my doubts on whether you're a shill or not.[/QUOTE]
I post the truth so I'm a shill
I made this account so I could post my request for contagion models for gmod.
When I checked the news section I saw all these copy and paste of reddit opinions I felt like I should point out facts to interrupt this echo chamber/circle jerk
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45438889]I post the truth so I'm a shill
I made this account so I could post my request for contagion models for gmod.
When I checked the news section I saw all these copy and paste of reddit opinions I felt like I should point out facts to interrupt this echo chamber/circle jerk[/QUOTE]
You are not posting the truth. Yes, the US did a lot of what Russia is doing, but you could use this as an excuse for anything
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;45438961]You are not posting the truth. Yes, the US did a lot of what Russia is doing, but you could use this as an excuse for anything[/QUOTE]
That's not the point, if the US is going to badmouth Russia for doing the same things they do (Supporting National Independence) , they're hypocrites that can't be taken seriously.
The Donetsk Republic is entitled to succeed if Ukrainians can coup it's government and America can bomb Serbia for trying to keep Kosovo in it's borders.
Can we talk about how the US shot down an Iranian Airlines flight in 1987?
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45438992]That's not the point, if the US is going to badmouth Russia for doing the same things they do (Supporting National Independence) , they're hypocrites that can't be taken seriously.
The Donetsk Republic is entitled to succeed if Ukrainians can coup it's government and America can bomb Serbia for trying to keep Kosovo in it's borders.
Can we talk about how the US shot down an Iranian Airlines flight in 1987?[/QUOTE]
No because that happened nearly 30 years ago?
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45438992]That's not the point, if the US is going to badmouth Russia for doing the same things they do (Supporting National Independence) , they're hypocrites that can't be taken seriously. [/QUOTE]
Russia doesn't openly support the Donetsk Peoples' Republic, they don't even acknowledge their independence
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45438992]The Donetsk Republic is entitled to succeed if Ukrainians can coup it's government and America can bomb Serbia for trying to keep Kosovo in it's borders.[/QUOTE]
This sounds like "The Earth is flat therefor the Sun orbits the Earth"
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45438992]Can we talk about how the US shot down an Iranian Airlines flight in 1987?[/QUOTE]
Yes we can, but why is it relevant?
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;45439100]Russia doesn't openly support the Donetsk Peoples' Republic, they don't even acknowledge their independence
This sounds like "The Earth is flat therefor the Sun orbits the Earth"
Yes we can, but why is it relevant?[/QUOTE]
"Russia doesn't openly support the Donetsk Peoples' Republic, they don't even acknowledge their independence"
Russia provides them material support and volunteers
"This sounds like "The Earth is flat therefor the Sun orbits the Earth' "
Apples and Oranges, what is the difference between Albanians that want Independence and Russians that want Independence? Are you some kind of right sector fascist?
"Yes we can, but why is it relevant?"
It means they're in no moral position to criticize anyone
imagine trying to justify killing 300 innocent people
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439187]Are you some kind of right sector fascist?[/QUOTE]
[b]YES[/b]
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439187]Russia provides them material support and volunteers[/QUOTE]
Just proves that the Russian government is a bunch of lying backstabbing fucks. And 83% of Russians aren't different as far as I'm concerned now
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439187]Apples and Oranges, what is the difference between Albanians that want Independence and Russians that want Independence?[/QUOTE]
Why do Russian mercenaries have the right to declare a part of Ukraine independent? How about they fuck off and build their Novorossiya bullshit somewhere in Russia?
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439187]It means they're in no moral position to criticize anyone [/QUOTE]
Not really. Anyone can criticize anyone they want, that's how it works
I'm kind of getting uncomfortable seeing these statistics. Feels like Nazi Germany where the population got brainwashed.
[QUOTE=Streecer;45439252]imagine trying to justify killing 300 innocent people[/QUOTE]
Imagine defending your nation from crimes it did not commit
[editline]19th July 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=ZyreHD;45439256]I'm kind of getting uncomfortable seeing these statistics. Feels like Nazi Germany where the population got brainwashed.[/QUOTE]
Yeah there's a complex argument, hurr durr they're brainwashed, or maybe the fact he's Russia's best leader in over 70 years.
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439259]Imagine defending your nation from crimes it did not commit[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439187]"Russia doesn't openly support the Donetsk Peoples' Republic, they don't even acknowledge their independence"
[B]
Russia provides them material support and volunteers[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;45439253][b]YES[/b]
Just proves that the Russian government is a bunch of lying backstabbing fucks. And 83% of Russians aren't different as far as I'm concerned now
Why do Russian mercenaries have the right to declare a part of Ukraine independent? How about they fuck off and build their Novorossiya bullshit somewhere in Russia?
Not really. Anyone can criticize anyone they want, that's how it works[/QUOTE]
"Just proves that the Russian government is a bunch of lying backstabbing fucks. And 83% of Russians aren't different as far as I'm concerned now"
Well if that's the case why don't you bomb and Invade Russia and teach us a lesson
[B]HAHAHAHAHAHA[/B]
"Why do Russian mercenaries have the right to declare a part of Ukraine independent? How about they fuck off and build their Novorossiya bullshit somewhere in Russia?"
Because they're not all Russian, 75% are Ukrainian Citizens that have the right to self determination. Why couldn't the Albanians in Kosovo fuck off to Albania?
"Not really. Anyone can criticize anyone they want, that's how it works"
Then they're are hypocrites.
[editline]19th July 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Streecer;45439272][/QUOTE]
But the Rebels didn't shoot down the plane, that was the Ukrainians.
[QUOTE]But the Rebels didn't shoot down the plane, that was the Ukrainians. [/QUOTE]
Why would the Ukrainians be using AA? The rebels don't have air support.
[QUOTE=Streecer;45439282]Why would the Ukrainians be using AA? The rebels don't have air support.[/QUOTE]
False Flag obviously, Plus obviously the Ukrainians have AA near the Russian border.
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439275]Well if that's the case why don't you bomb and Invade Russia and teach us a lesson
[B]HAHAHAHAHAHA[/B][/quote]
Because Ukraine isn't evil
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439275]Because they're not all Russian, 75% are Ukrainian Citizens that have the right to self determination. Why couldn't the Albanians in Kosovo fuck off to Albania? [/quote]
I assume the 75% number actually comes from somewhere and is not pulled out of your ass? Any source?
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439275]Then they're are hypocrites.[/quote]
Definitely. So what?
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439275]But the Rebels didn't shoot down the plane, that was the Ukrainians.[/QUOTE]
Source?
Didn't something similar happen with George Bush after 9/11?
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;45439308]Because Ukraine isn't evil
I assume the 75% number actually comes from somewhere and is not pulled out of your ass? Any source?
Definitely. So what?
Source?[/QUOTE]
"Because Ukraine isn't evil"
Evil doesn't exist, plus we could swallow up your nation in maybe 12-14 Days
"I assume the 75% number actually comes from somewhere and is not pulled out of your ass? Any source?"
It's a estimation, considering the strength of the actual militia cross referenced without the amount of protestors that initially seized government buildings
"Definitely. So what?"
Reduces the value of what they're saying
"Source?"
The Rebels aren't capable of shooting it down, the Russian Air Defence Forces obviously didn't shoot it down, leaving only one capable nation?
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439331]It's a estimation, considering the strength of the actual militia cross referenced without the amount of protestors that initially seized government buildings
[/QUOTE]
An estimation by whom? Unbiased experts who know what they're talking about, or you? Because if it's you, I'm pretty sure that counts as pulling it out of your ass.
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439259]
Yeah there's a complex argument, hurr durr they're brainwashed, or maybe the fact he's Russia's best leader in over 70 years.[/QUOTE]
A sure sign of whether or not someone is a good leader is whether they poison journalists that disagree with them.
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;45439346]An estimation by whom? Unbiased experts who know what they're talking about, or you? Because if it's you, I'm pretty sure that counts as pulling it out of your ass.[/QUOTE]
There are generally agreed upon amounts, they're on wikipedia.
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439331]Evil doesn't exist, plus we could swallow up your nation in maybe 12-14 Days[/quote]
Why don't they then?
Also, you said "we". Will you come?
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439331]It's a estimation, considering the strength of the actual militia cross referenced without the amount of protestors that initially seized government buildings [/quote]
Who's to say the protestors weren't Russians either?
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439331]Reduces the value of what they're saying[/quote]
Not really. They're right
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439331]The Rebels aren't capable of shooting it down, the Russian Air Defence Forces obviously didn't shoot it down, leaving only one capable nation?[/QUOTE]
Please read the original thread, it has plenty of evidence that the DNR had the means to do this
[QUOTE=Thlis;45439380]A sure sign of whether or not someone is a good leader is whether they poison journalists that disagree with them.[/QUOTE]
There is nothing wrong with neutralizing threats to the solidarity and unity of a nation. These "Journalists" just seek to poison the minds of people with sensationalistic garbage.
"Free Media" just leads to the degenerate and hedonistic civilization like the West.
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439405]"Free Media" just leads to the degenerate and hedonistic civilization like the West.[/QUOTE]
Okay, i've had enough. To the ignore list
This thread is hilarious...
[quote]How about they fuck off and build their Novorossiya bullshit somewhere in Russia?[/quote]
Maybe because the modern state of Ukraine, as a descendant of the Ukrainian SSR, includes Novorossiya?
Do you think they just came up with this recently, or something?
No, it's a historically Russian/Russophone region now under the control of a nationalist coup government (with its political base in an area historically detached from any east slav state, galicia and such) that controls a failed Ukrainian state and will deliver it into the hands of the EU against the wishes of half of its population, among other things.
And you wonder why they want to leave you and/or federalize?
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439331]"Because Ukraine isn't evil"
Evil doesn't exist, plus we could swallow up your nation in maybe 12-14 Days
"I assume the 75% number actually comes from somewhere and is not pulled out of your ass? Any source?"
It's a estimation, considering the strength of the actual militia cross referenced without the amount of protestors that initially seized government buildings
"Definitely. So what?"
Reduces the value of what they're saying
"Source?"
The Rebels aren't capable of shooting it down, the Russian Air Defence Forces obviously didn't shoot it down, leaving only one capable nation?[/QUOTE]
Except the rebels themselves tweeted pictures of them having AA systems and claimed they shot down a military aircraft but when it turned out a passenger plane had crashed they deleted them. The BBC got snapshots of the tweets though.
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439331]Evil doesn't exist, plus we could swallow up your nation in maybe 12-14 Days
[/QUOTE]
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yeah okay
Is this going to be like samurai flamenco and he powers up with higher approval ratings?
[QUOTE=pestcontrol;45439405]There is nothing wrong with neutralizing threats to the solidarity and unity of a nation. These "Journalists" just seek to poison the minds of people with sensationalistic garbage.
"Free Media" just leads to the degenerate and hedonistic civilization like the West.[/QUOTE]
Plutionium in sushi != saying Putin Sucks
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;45439396]Why don't they then?
Also, you said "we". Will you come?
Who's to say the protestors weren't Russians either?
Not really. They're right
Please read the original thread, it has plenty of evidence that the DNR had the means to do this[/QUOTE]
"Why don't they then? "
We're not the fascists here natsistskiy
"Who's to say the protestors weren't Russians either?"
Big conspiracy, because movements of 17'000 protesters are easy to infiltrate.
"Not really. They're right"
A) They're Wrong
B) They're lairs and hypocrites
"Please read the original thread, it has plenty of evidence that the DNR had the means to do this"
"Evidence"
You mean nonsense forged recordings regurgitated by the Ukrainian Intelligence Service
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