• "Beacon of hope" - Middle East building its own version of CERN, where Israeli and Iranian scientist
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[QUOTE=smurfy;38601905]There sure is a lot of casual racism in here Middle East, doing science? But they're savages they can't do that... someone's gonna suicide bomb it[/QUOTE] I'm Middle-Eastern, and what I said is true, not racist. It's all well and good taking a step forward, but religion is going to force us two steps back. I'm all for a particle accelerator, I think it'd be awesome, but I know all the high-ups of each country in the region will be a massive pain in the ass whenever a discovery is made that might clash with whatever the Holy Book says. Religion plays a big part in the Middle-East, and country rulers don't want to be seen as opposing it, as seeming religious will make the vast majority of your people like you. It's absurd.
Israel's pretty huge on science, nice to see Israeli scientists cooperate with Iranians.
[QUOTE=Turnips5;38602025]did you know that [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran]70% of Iran's science and engineering students are women?[/url] [editline]26th November 2012[/editline] and just recently they banned women from doing a tonne of degrees. holy fuck what [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19665615[/url][/QUOTE] Not saying they don't have the capability, of course they do. But the men in charge won't allow it, as seen in the news item you linked to.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;38602604]Not saying they don't have the capability, of course they do. But the men in charge won't allow it, as seen in the news item you linked to.[/QUOTE] yeah that's extremely recent though, I actually had no idea about it until I tried to find the 70% statistic (which is still true, by the way, it's just if they follow through with the ban then it'll quickly drop) [editline]26th November 2012[/editline] I'm just saying, they [I]were[/I] letting women do STEM subjects, but apparently not for much longer...
[quote]I asked Prof Roy Beck of Tel Aviv University how he felt sitting with Iranian scientists when their government had vowed to destroy his country. "Well, Iranian scientists have not vowed to destroy me," he said. "I mean, Iranian and Palestinian and Pakistani scientists are my friends because they are scientists so we have a common ground. This is really the essence of what Sesame can bring to the region." [/quote] Well that's encouragement!
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;38601593]Oh my god, even the Middle East is putting more effort into particle physics than the US does.[/QUOTE] Particle physics is dumb. Don't you know Nuclear Fusion is what you research to unlock Giant Death Robots?
[QUOTE=MendozaMan;38600925]So here we have a place that will be hated by both sides of a nation And everyone around it Sorry to be pessimistic but I can't see much good happening to the people working there, even if the prospect is noble[/QUOTE] There are a lot of organizations in people from two or more opposing nations work together and it works out just fine.
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[QUOTE=loopoo;38601770]"What's that, Ahmed? You've discovered the highly allusive God particle? No, that can't be. It doesn't fit with what the Holy Book says. Burn the reports and get out of this office, you are fired, you heathen."[/QUOTE] You do know that the god particle had nothing to do with god?
...riiiight
[QUOTE=loopoo;38601770]I find it saddening that - although this is a step in the right direction, results obtained from this will most likely be shunned or buried, due to the Middle-East being a pretty fanatic religious region. "What's that, Ahmed? You've discovered the highly allusive God particle? No, that can't be. It doesn't fit with what the Holy Book says. Burn the reports and get out of this office, you are fired, you heathen."[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure an educated scientist won't be as retarded as an extremist Muslim.
Some fucker will probably find a way to get in and blow it to shit unfortunately. You'd think that scientists would be left relatively alone, but no. I've heard stories before of scientists being targeted, killed, kidnapped, etc. Likely we will hear more.
[QUOTE=C47;38611155]You do know that the god particle had nothing to do with god?[/QUOTE] You do know that various religions were getting in a hot and bothered state over the "God" particle? I know what it is. [editline]28th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=milkandcooki;38614099]I'm pretty sure an educated scientist won't be as retarded as an extremist Muslim.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying the scientist will be as retarded as an extremist Muslim, but rather the countries around this particle accelerator will be very dismissive of any scientific discoveries if it doesn't "fit in" with whatever their Holy Books say. You have whole regions in the Middle-East dismissing very well-known pieces of scientific discovery / theory, all because it "doesn't fit in" with what a book written 2000 years ago says. And - again - like I said, leaders of these countries aren't going to be quick to jump at any new discovery, because it's all a power game. They don't want to be seen as non-religious, due to the fact that most of their power would be gone if they didn't have the people's support.
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