• 200,000 Salvadorans may be forced to leave the U.S. as Trump ends immigration protection
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[QUOTE=sgman91;53037106] With that said, the argument you're making right now isn't even one that you support. You think they should stay permanently. So even if El Salvador were the more peaceful and wonderful place on the planet, you still wouldn't want us to deport these people. You want the law ignored in the most basic sense.[/QUOTE] If they need to be kicked out, there has to be a meaningful solution to all the problems kicking them out would entail. Like what would happen to the children who were born in the United States? Would they have to go to a country they've never known where they might not even speak the language? Can Trump kick out full citizens? Also I think this could basically be virtue signaling and Trump might just sign the renewal anyway when congress can't get their shit together. Gotta give the appearance that he's tough on immigration more than anything else.
[QUOTE=sgman91;53035495]Just to be clear: do you care at all about the separation of powers or should the president just legislate from the executive's office? Morally? I don't think there's anything morally wrong with offering temporary respite to people and then expecting them to go back home when the disaster in question has passed. Giving people temporary residence doesn't obligate you to give them permanent residence. [editline]8th January 2018[/editline] You say that like I support Trump doing it. I think the wall is a stupid idea anyway. It's probably the least effective way to deal with the issues we have.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between going home and getting deported.
[QUOTE=sgman91;53037027]It doesn't seem to be a "how" question. These people are here on a temporary basis. To make it permanent wouldn't be enforcing the law differently. It would be totally ignoring the law and allowing permanent immigration that wasn't allowed by congress. [editline]8th January 2018[/editline] I'm not going to apologize for arguing that the constitution is relevant and that we ought to have the congress pass law. If there are negative effects, then the blame falls on the congress: the one who made the law, the one who failed to change the law, and the one who continues it today.[/QUOTE] Hope the people responsible are ready to accept the blame for anything that goes wrong then.
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