Mother Rapes her 11 Year Old Daughter for 'Sexual Education'
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[QUOTE=DesumThePanda;34231288]I'm not saying to just say a Holocaust joke right in front of a Holocaust survivor, I'm just saying that if someone [i]does[/i] say it by accident or didn't know they were around don't start a massive huge ass shitstorm about it.[/QUOTE]
So why defend the joke if you specifically want to prevent a shit-storm?
because this
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[QUOTE=DesumThePanda;34231435]because this
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That's not really a logically sound reason, y'know. And even if it were you were still being an asshat about rape, and that just isn't a good thing to do, bro.
I'm not saying rape is justifiable and that the jokes are non-offensive, just that I think way too many people take them too seriously and overract. If a friend of mine says a joke I find distasteful or offensive I simply say "Hey man, could you not tell those types of jokes anymore" but from past experience people just randomly flip out.
Maybe I'm just generalizing all people who are offended by jokes but from experience far too many people just fucking losing their shit over it.
[QUOTE=DesumThePanda;34231590]I'm not saying rape is justifiable and that the jokes are non-offensive, just that I think way too many people take them too seriously and overract. If a friend of mine says a joke I find distasteful or offensive I simply say "Hey man, could you not tell those types of jokes anymore" but from past experience people just randomly flip out.
Maybe I'm just generalizing all people who are offended by jokes but from experience far too many people just fucking losing their shit over it.[/QUOTE]
They aren't going to lose their shit unless you make them. Do you want people to flip out or what? Just tell nice, socially acceptable jokes, and if you MUST tell jokes that you know will offend someone tell it when nobody will be.
NEVER tell someone when to be offended. It's similar to telling someone to listen to a particular type of music, or play different games; everyone handles everything in a different manner, so acknowledge that when someone's offended, they're [B]always[/B] well within their rights to be, no matter how juvinile their offense may be.
Being offended=/=Flipping out because you're offended.
[QUOTE=DesumThePanda;34231797]Being offended=/=Flipping out because you're offended.[/QUOTE]
When to tell someone to be offended is the same as saying how offended they should be, by the same way of how much they should like or dislike things.
No, it's telling them not to act all apeshit. You can be incredibly offended but have the ability to control your actions.
[QUOTE=DesumThePanda;34231980]No, it's telling them not to act all apeshit. You can be incredibly offended but have the ability to control your actions.[/QUOTE]
kind of like how you can be incredibly childish but have the ability to not be offensive
You call me childish but you keep throwing irrelevant insults.
I love Shitstorm Sunday.
[QUOTE=DesumThePanda;34231980]No, it's telling them not to act all apeshit. You can be incredibly offended but have the ability to control your actions.[/QUOTE]
Not really. If people can be as offended as they like, then they can get offended to a point where they feel they need to act, no?
They can feel the need but not actually do it.
I feel the need to take a shit but right now I'm busy arguing on the internet.
[QUOTE=DesumThePanda;34232111]They can feel the need but not actually do it.
I feel the need to take a shit but right now I'm busy arguing on the internet.[/QUOTE]
Sure they COULD, but again, people do things differently. If they decide to act, they decide to act - whinging about people being angry about guys laughing at their misfortune isn't going to change that.
Wow, seriously, it's so boring to watch you two argue. I'd like to see some discussion on the main topic, rather than watch an arguement between two people.
I hope that girl gets put into good care, anyway.
[QUOTE=voltlight;34232191]Wow, seriously, it's so boring to watch you two argue. I'd like to see some discussion on the main topic, rather than watch an arguement between two people.
I hope that girl gets put into good care, anyway.[/QUOTE]
I don't [I]want[/I] to argue, Panda's just being extremely disagreeable.
Sooo have any of the videos been posted yet?
[QUOTE=DesumThePanda;34231133]Really? I've been through fucking cancer, you don't know shit about me.
I've heard cancer jokes and laughed them off.[/QUOTE]
Er, cancer is something that happened to you. No one intentionally [i]gave[/i] you cancer in an attempt cause you harm; it's a natural occurrence.
Social narratives say that cancer is serious. We care about people who have cancer; we find it to be a serious thing, and, even if people joke about it occasionally (which isn't that often, as it's considered to be taboo), we still say it's a big fucking deal. Rape? Not so much. Roughly 1/4 women will be sexually assaulted at some point in their lives, and about half of men in the UK think that a woman deserves it if she was 'dressing slutty'. IIRC, around 98 - 99% of rape cases are not prosecuted; far less result in a conviction. We don't care about people who get raped. Joking about it (which we do [i]all the fucking time[/i]) and tossing the word 'rape' around frivolously (as in, "This math test just raped me") is a pretty clear reflection of that. Moreover, it contributes to an active trivialization of rape, which leads to people thinking that it's not that big of a fucking deal. Which, in turn, means that women get raped more. Congratulations - your 'right' to make a rape joke means that you're actively making the world a shittier place. You can't say the same about cancer - no matter how many cancer jokes you make, it's not going to actually give someone cancer.
Rape jokes promote rape myths and you're a shitbag if you do so.
Especially if you hide behind the ridiculous 'oh but it's FUNEEEE' excuse
go fuck yourself
[QUOTE=Contag;34210719]People from the Gold Coast disagree.
huge drama over whether the gold coast or the sunshine coast are better
even though they're like 30km apart[/QUOTE]
I prefer the Treasure Coast.
[QUOTE=Contag;34233554]Joking about rape makes the act of rape a joke.
If you think it’s funny, it’s because you think there is something inherently
funny about men coercing and forcing women to have sex. You are okay
with laughing about sexual violence.
Disgusting and horrible. Rape jokes are not funny, especially not in a country where the rape percentage is as high as a third worldcountry.Pathetic
Do you know that 25% of all women, regardless of class or race, will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime? Is that a laughing matter, guys?
Rape is not funny. Jokes about rape are not “black humor”. They are not
“tasteless.” They are actively promoting rape. By laughing at it, you’re
saying that it’s okay. By laughing at it, you’re giving encouragement to
the guys who are actually rapists.
Rape jokes promote rape myths and you're a shitbag if you do so.
Especially if you hide behind the ridiculous 'oh but it's FUNEEEE' excuse
go fuck yourself[/QUOTE]
Promoting racism?
[QUOTE=Contag;34228556]we use up all our racism on the aboriginals
better than New Zealand where every maori is a criminal who will steal your wallet and your wife
[editline]16th January 2012[/editline]
wait did I just prove your point?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1155742?p=34228556&highlight=#post34228556[/url]
Promoting extremism?
[QUOTE=Contag;34227125]I'm pretty sure that the fucking bible tells you to support iPhone and kill the gays
where is your 'god' now, huh!?!?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1155740?p=34227125&highlight=#post34227125[/url]
Nope siree, you were making [I]jokes[/I]. Now I'm not going to even try to frame this post with the idea that Desum's jokes was exactly the same as yours, rather I'm making a point.
You can't say not to make jokes about something as serious as rape, after having made jokes about other issues which are comparable.
Racism and extremism are not comparable to rape
go read a fucking sociology textbook
[editline]16th January 2012[/editline]
And besides, that's a fucking logical fallacy anyway.
I can very easily make jokes about rape and then say making jokes about rape is bad.
Have you ever done something you knew was bad?
It's called being hypocritical. It doesn't automatically make someone's position wrong
God you're a fucking sad little person if you went to all the trouble of searching my posts, finally got your 'AHA!' material and then fucked it up by going 'you joke about dis things THEN U CANT SAY IS BAD'
4 years thats it? Why the hell wouldn't they send her to a mental hospital? She's fucking insane.
I think there is also a pretty big difference between
"Black people steal stuff!"
and
"I'm not racist, and black people steal stuff"
You'll notice my jokes tend to fall in the second category, where the point of the joke is the racist, not the racism
I remember that Chef from South Park said SexEd should come from family, I guess we know how much that works now.
But what the hell kind of education is that, was she trying to make her daughter a porn star or something?
why don't my mum do this
[QUOTE=Contag;34233554]Joking about rape makes the act of rape a joke.
If you think it’s funny, it’s because you think there is something inherently
funny about men coercing and forcing women to have sex. You are okay
with laughing about sexual violence.
Disgusting and horrible. Rape jokes are not funny, especially not in a country where the rape percentage is as high as a third worldcountry.Pathetic
Do you know that 25% of all women, regardless of class or race, will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime? Is that a laughing matter, guys?
Rape is not funny. Jokes about rape are not “black humor”. They are not
“tasteless.” They are actively promoting rape. By laughing at it, you’re
saying that it’s okay. By laughing at it, you’re giving encouragement to
the guys who are actually rapists.
Rape jokes promote rape myths and you're a shitbag if you do so.
Especially if you hide behind the ridiculous 'oh but it's FUNEEEE' excuse
go fuck yourself[/QUOTE]
congratulations on being a sexist asshole
women aren't the only ones who get raped you know
[QUOTE=Taggart;34238811]congratulations on being a sexist asshole
women aren't the only ones who get raped you know[/QUOTE]
point me to the sexism
women are raped significantly more than men
and it gets joked about just as much
go to any thread about a woman molesting kids and there will be at least a few "gee I wish this woman was my mother/teacher/whatever :v:" posts
[editline]16th January 2012[/editline]
and that joke serves to indicate that being upset about getting raped isn't 'manly' and they should just 'deal with it', which is partly why rape with men so under reported with police
[QUOTE=Sanius;34230114]my sister was raped and could not get an abortion. try going through that emotional anguish and see if you can still laugh at childish rape jokes
you don't even need to go through such an experience to see how fucked up and harmful making light of rape is. stop thinking with your dick. actually stop to think how your fucking childish joke will effect other people. you know, have empathy[/QUOTE]
....How the fuck am I supposed to know this?
[QUOTE=Sanius;34211129]wow that's completely besides the point
and it's not as if murder is a thing you should joke about either[/QUOTE]
When did you start becoming such a bad poster
[editline]16th January 2012[/editline]
Actually if I remember correctly it was maybe a week ago, I may still be able to find the thread
Point is, I don't know what they told you but you don't currently have the privilege of gold immunity
Actually come to think of it, how are we supposed to verify any of that tale you told us?
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