With Windows 10, Microsoft could move to a subscription-based model
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Nope.
I'm still pissed about having to move away from XP. No fucking way would I pay a subscription for a fucking OS.
If that means no more internet in my house.. so be it. I'll be a better person for it.
I'll take up sewing or some shit.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;46679297]Can't wait for Linux based OSes that are as simple as Windows for the normal person.[/QUOTE]
Not going to happen until programs people use daily, including MS office are on it. Or something like open office has won.
So long as a one-time payment option is still available I see no issues with this. At that point it's up to personal preference. I'd prefer a one-time sum even if it's a little bit more expensive because I'm always unconfident that I could continue paying a monthly bill what with the lack of job security most careers have.
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major security hole is found in win10, they patch it, but they push out the updates to the paying customers first then to the free people, leaving us non-buying plebs with major holes because we choose to or can't afford to pay monthly update-fees[/QUOTE]
This won't happen. Basically any program or item that provides updates to both free and premium models always provides vital security updates for free to both models at the same time because it's in the company's best interest to do so.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;46681067]So long as a one-time payment option is still available I see no issues with this. At that point it's up to personal preference. I'd prefer a one-time sum even if it's a little bit more expensive because I'm always unconfident that I could continue paying a monthly bill what with the lack of job security most careers have.
This won't happen. Basically any program or item that provides updates to both free and premium models always provides vital security updates for free to both models at the same time because it's in the company's best interest to do so.[/QUOTE]
In fact, even if Windows isn't activated, you will still receive security updates at the same time as everyone else. You just don't get feature/non-essential updates. In the same way, Microsoft still pushes system updates to your 360 and Xbox One even if you don't have XBL Gold. So this is Microsoft official policy.
Here's to hoping that they don't end up with this model. AT this point I'd be willing to pay the standard upgrade fee for Windows 10, as I've been using it as my main OS for several weeks now. Much better to navigate with a laptop.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;46679625]how is it a pain in the ass? you just throw it on your credit card and youre done.
there are benefits to each method though, the article even implied there would be a free version. maybe there will also be a full prepaid version as well.[/QUOTE]
Why not pay a monthly fee for being alive.
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;46679151]Make me want to pay monthly and you got it.
I highly fucking doubt it though.[/QUOTE]
People said the same thing about photoshop, look what they're doing now.
The simple fact is if the business world says yes, this will be a thing and there's exactly jack shit you can do about it other than pirating or moving to a different OS. They've been trying to get this adopted since vista and sooner or later it's going to happen; the only question is when.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;46681494]Why not pay a monthly fee for being alive.[/QUOTE]
You already do, just to your body rather than some separate entity and in the form of food, water, and oxygen.
If I was forced to use Windows 10 Basic, I'd install VirtualBox and run a virtual Windows 7 while never going back to the parent OS.
But since that's never going to happen, I'll just sit back in the corner and laugh.
[QUOTE=Elspin;46679309]Office 365 personal is $7/month and the version of office 2013 with all the same features is $519, or ~74 months of office 365 by which time there will almost definitely be a new version of office out. If you wanted the cheapest barebones version of office 2013 it'd be ~20 months, but it's still not terrible. For some people a small fee per month is much more manageable than a large one-time fee anyhow, so there's at least no harm in having the option.
[sp]This is also using monthly, if you do yearly you get an extra 17% discount per month which means ~89 months for equivalent product or ~24 months for most barebones equivalent, ~43 months for the midground[/sp][/QUOTE]
You also get unlimited onedrive storage if you do this, which is kind of neat
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;46681628]If I was forced to use Windows 10 Basic, I'd install VirtualBox and run a virtual Windows 7 while never going back to the parent OS.
But since that's never going to happen, I'll just sit back in the corner and laugh.[/QUOTE]I can see why, but the performance would be horrible and inefficient.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp2;46681978]I can see why, but the performance would be horrible and inefficient.[/QUOTE]
It's worth a shot anyway.
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The "unlock more features for a fee" idea could be useful. There are so many things I do not use on Windows, meaning I could have a less bloated PC with this system.
[QUOTE=joshuadim;46679647]I'm never moving from windows 7[/QUOTE]
Yes you are. You are most definitely going to move from Windows 7.
[QUOTE=paul simon;46682450]Yes you are. You are most definitely going to move from Windows 7.[/QUOTE] Not if Microsoft keeps this shit up.
Oh no no no, I already skipped 8.
10 looked so good, don't fuck it up please.
[QUOTE=Episode;46682466]Not if Microsoft keeps this shit up.[/QUOTE]
I can't imagine anyone will seriously be using Windows 7 in 40 years :v:
It actually doesn't sound that bad if its something like 40 a year because before you even reach the fee for a one time purchase the next iteration of windows will come out and you get that too.
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;46682521]Oh no no no, I already skipped 8.
10 looked so good, don't fuck it up please.[/QUOTE]
Microsoft is moving to a much shorter release cadence, which means major features that you would normally only get by buying the new version, would just be put out through an update. At least that's my guess.
Assuming that, the one-time license fee wouldn't make a whole lot of sense from Microsoft's perspective.
Don't.
I'm happy with one-time purchase.
Or at the very least have both, but I don't see the point, I can't imagine a single instance where someone would want to pay a subscription to use an OS for just a month or something like that.
I would be cool with a [I]optional[/I] subsription plan alongside a one time purchase option. Options are good for the consumer after all.
Like, imagine there being two versions of win10 for sale. One is a 100 dollar one time purchase which includes the essential security and stability updates, the other is a free download (or 20-50 dollar initial investment), which then costs 5 bucks a month after that (with the option to upgrade to the "complete" version for a reduced price based on the number of moths you have been subscribed). If you miss a payment, then you would only get the barebones updates necessary to run the OS.
That is what I hope woud happen if MS uses that idea. That would be sweet for students, and pretty competitive in the OS market. A complete change to a subsription model would be suicide though. But hey, lets see how this turns out. We don't know a whole lot yet, so I will personally wait to judge.
[QUOTE=Muggi;46682669]That would be sweet for students,[/QUOTE]
Don't students get windows and a lot of other ms software free anyway?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46682690]Don't students get windows and a lot of other ms software free anyway?[/QUOTE]
Depends on the university you're at. I used to, at my former university, but not from my current.
Seems pretty reasonable. There is a strong trend of products being made into services.
It's not like the posters complaining about subscription fees in this thread have ever paid for a Windows license.
NO MICROSOFT!
Fuck you! You are trying to implement your Microsoft Xbox live gold membership type of subscription bullshit on us. How could you people agree on this nonsense? What if some people are too poor to pay for monthly subscriptions? I can understand Anti-virus being yearly subscription basis but a basic god damn operating system should not be subscription based! How would you like it if you have to pay monthly payment just to use your own home toilet or bathtub or even open your god damn television?
If Microsoft do this, people will jump to Linux or Macintosh!
what is microsoft gonna do if i stop paying my windows bill? they gonna repo my pc? :v:
[QUOTE=BCell;46682743]NO MICROSOFT!
How would you like it if you have to pay monthly payment just to use your own home toilet or bathtub or even open your god damn television?
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Last time i checked all of those things have "subscription fees".
Toilet/bathtub = water utility bill
television = electricity bill
[QUOTE=AJ10017;46682754]what is microsoft gonna do if i stop paying my windows bill? they gonna repo my pc? :v:[/QUOTE]
The most fair and simple thing would be the same thing as what UT4 subscription does. You keep everything you have so far but no further support or updates and in the case of windows none of these further features(office suite) you get from the subscription.
[QUOTE=AJ10017;46682754]
Last time i checked all of those things have "subscription fees".
Toilet/bathtub = water utility bill
television = electricity bill[/QUOTE]
That's not the same at all. Not only do these "sub fees" vary based on usage, they are utilities, not services. If I own a computer but don't use it I don't have to pay for electricity it didn't use. A service you pay for even if you don't use it unless you unsub.
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[QUOTE=DigitalySane;46682790]The most fair and simple thing would be the same thing as what UT4 subscription does. You keep everything you have so far but no further support or updates and in the case of windows none of these further features(office suite) you get from the subscription.[/QUOTE]
I hope this does not include security patches otherwise I predict tons of insecure machines simply because grandma didn't pay the fee.
One step forward, and then all the steps backward.
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