You can now drink in public in Manhattan without fear of arrest. Thank Black Lives Matter.
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[QUOTE=soccerskyman;49864263]The public intoxication laws are subjectively enforced on minorities, due to the quite well documented racism in police.[/QUOTE]
2 things:
1) We aren't talking about public intoxication laws. We're talking about drinking in public laws.
2) I would love to see a source for the claim that black people get arrested more for public intoxication because cops are racist.
[editline]3rd March 2016[/editline]
Also, let me get this right: if you personally think a law is a bad one, then you are immediately a victim if you're arrested for going against that law?
If everyone believed that we wouldn't have a functioning society.
How does this relate to black lives campaign?
Lol are you really not allowed to drink on the streets in america?
[QUOTE=Passing;49864557]How does this relate to black lives campaign?[/QUOTE]
Police would use these laws to target black people.
As in you're more likely to have the police give a shit about what you're doing and be arrested for drinking in public if you're black than if you're white.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;49863509]Good - there's zero reason for these types of laws other than classic American puritanism. I've drank on the streets in both England and Germany and it was wonderful. Progress.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I always found it strange that these laws existed in the US, I remember how surprised some Americans were when we left the house in the UK with open beers. Someone quipped that the UK was a "free country that allowed open carry of beer".
Though I had a similar experience when arriving in Japan, some students told me to meet them in front of the police box. They were all drinking when I arrived, I asked them about drinking in front of a police box of all places.
"Well it's obviously the safest place to drink, if anything happens, the cops are right there!" :v:
[QUOTE=maxolina;49864716]Lol are you really not allowed to drink on the streets in america?[/QUOTE]
There are still entire counties in the US where the sale of alcohol is prohibited. Plenty of areas ban alcohol sales on Sundays, plenty more ban alcohol sales outside of very specific hours, some others prohibit grocery stores from stocking anything but light beers and wines. There's tons of prohibition-era conservative local laws that have never been repealed, and more that were enacted after prohibition by religious activists in local governments.
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Red counties are "dry" where no alcohol can be sold in the county whatsoever (or with absurdly strict limitations like max 3.2% light beer), yellow are "mixed" with varying limitations like I described above, blue are "wet."
It's some stupid shit. Alabama? [I]Illegal [/I]to transport more than 1 case of beer in a dry county. All sorts of idiotic laws in counties and localities across the country. The town I grew up in in Texas banned liquor stores by city ordinance until about 5 or 6 years ago - and they're just now lifting a city ordinance against tattoo parlors in city limits. It's crazy.
[QUOTE=maxolina;49864716]Lol are you really not allowed to drink on the streets in america?[/QUOTE]
It's also illegal in the Netherlands but most of the time the police just doesn't care enough to fine you.
[QUOTE=Satansick;49864988]It's also illegal in the Netherlands but most of the time the police just doesn't care enough to fine you.[/QUOTE]
Same here. But they really don't give a crap unless you're obviously underage or if you're way too drunk
So because a bunch of jerkoffs couldn't [I]stop drinking in public and getting in trouble for it[/I] they're just making drinking in public legal instead?
Fuck this country
[editline]4th March 2016[/editline]
Maybe the problem isn't the law, but the fact that our population is made of ignorant fucks who do whatever they want
[editline]4th March 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=.Isak.;49864912]There are still entire counties in the US where the sale of alcohol is prohibited. Plenty of areas ban alcohol sales on Sundays, plenty more ban alcohol sales outside of very specific hours, some others prohibit grocery stores from stocking anything but light beers and wines. There's tons of prohibition-era conservative local laws that have never been repealed, and more that were enacted after prohibition by religious activists in local governments.
Red counties are "dry" where no alcohol can be sold in the county whatsoever (or with absurdly strict limitations like max 3.2% light beer), yellow are "mixed" with varying limitations like I described above, blue are "wet."
It's some stupid shit. Alabama? [I]Illegal [/I]to transport more than 1 case of beer in a dry county. All sorts of idiotic laws in counties and localities across the country. The town I grew up in in Texas banned liquor stores by city ordinance until about 5 or 6 years ago - and they're just now lifting a city ordinance against tattoo parlors in city limits. It's crazy.[/QUOTE]
I live in NJ and the only difference with liquor laws here is that grocery stores/etc can't sell alcohol (I know in other states you can go to, say, Shoprite and buy beer) Only liquor stores can
[QUOTE=cody8295;49862901]soo when are they gonna do away with the unconstitutional stop and frisk bullshit?[/QUOTE]
There is this weird thing in the US where the 4th doesn't count near the borders. NY falls under that area. It's some grade A bullshit.
[editline]4th March 2016[/editline]
found it
[quote]Despite federal law allowing certain federal agents to conduct search and seizures within 100 miles of the border into the interior of the United States,[5] the Supreme Court has clearly and repeatedly confirmed that the border search exception applies only at international borders and their functional equivalent (such as international airports).[4](citing United States v. Martinez-Fuerte, 428 U.S. 543, 562-563(1976))[/quote]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception[/url]
[img]http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/22/imagemap.gif[/img]
According to your wiki link that only applies to customs officers, not regular police officers.
[QUOTE=Dr.C;49863074]I'm still waiting for them to get rid of their stop and kiss program
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXXaj--a6-4[/media][/QUOTE]
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fm-xSSARyo[/media]
Relevant
[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;49866049]There is this weird thing in the US where the 4th doesn't count near the borders. NY falls under that area. It's some grade A bullshit.
[editline]4th March 2016[/editline]
found it
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception[/url]
[img]http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/22/imagemap.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
Ha, my home falls under that, by where I live right now doesn't!
Basically you still shouldn't do it though since you get a summons? I don't understand how this changes all that much.
[QUOTE=Sharker;49868172]Basically you still shouldn't do it though since you get a summons? I don't understand how this changes all that much.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't change much of anything. All it changes is that officers don't have to arrest people who already have a previous court summons warrant. That's it.
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