• Ellen Pao steps down
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[QUOTE=Mattk50;48168717]"allowed reddit to survive" and "prefers gender equality", get a load of these assertions. What damp cave did you pull those ideas out of?[/QUOTE] "/s"
I honestly thought Chairman Pao wouldn't go down without a fight. Today is a big victory
[QUOTE=killerteacup;48168141]To be fair, that article has a point. The petition is what did it, constant harassment of anyone regardless of whether they are a CEO or a fucking cleaner is not okay I mean ellen pao may not have been a good CEO but that doesnt mean everyone gets to decide shes a bad person and demonise her as well[/QUOTE] Where was the harassment, and since when is a petition harassment? Like, are we not allowed to voice displeasure anymore? Is just wrong to say "This person is shit, get em outta here."
[QUOTE=deadoon;48168769]"/s"[/QUOTE] That accounts for one layer of sarcasm which is what i responded to. Maybe he was sarcasticly being sarcastic though?
[QUOTE=killerteacup;48168579]We sure showed that woman who is boss![/QUOTE] Yeah, no, you're opinion is moot if you don't even know why she was shit. Hint:Not because of her lady parts.
[QUOTE=Swilly;48168823]Yeah, no, you're opinion is moot if you don't even know why she was shit. Hint:Not because of her lady parts.[/QUOTE] I like how the people defending her forget that this shitstorm started because she fired the lady handling the AMAs who was liked massively by the community and a employee suffering from cancer, despite Pao telling said employee that he wouldn't be sacked the day prior. All the people who claim that this is just a case of ''muh soggy knees'' throughly deserve to get a .png of a box faxed to their addresses.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;48168296]It's not sexist to criticise her decisions as a CEO, or to criticise the validity of her lawsuits but ultimately nobody on the internet knows this person so really there is absolutely no way to justify any harassment that took place of her and that's what the article was basically saying. Criticism of a public figure is fine but let's be real for a second, how often do you think public figures receive valid criticism in their inbox?[/QUOTE] Sexism? Gabe Newell got similar harassment during the paid mods debacle. Is that bad? Yeah but people are just assholes, especially towards people who do things they don't like. This isn't sexist in any way. Hell, the "revolt" was in defense of a woman.
[QUOTE=Jordax;48168863]I like how the people defending her forget that this shitstorm started because she fired the lady handling the AMAs who was liked massively by the community and a employee suffering from cancer, despite Pao telling said employee that he wouldn't be sacked the day prior. All the people who claim that this is just a case of ''muh soggy knees'' throughly deserve to get a .png of a box faxed to their addresses.[/QUOTE] I just like that after all the bullshit, all of the things she's done which are the exact opposite of any sort of progressive stance besides the removal of hate subreddits(whilst keeping others open), is still somehow protected because vag.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;48168579]We sure showed that woman who is boss![/QUOTE] not her anymore thats for sure lol
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48167434]Like it or not, no, CEOs don't actually do anything but PR, they're a marketing tool for when things go well, and a scapegoat for when they go bad. If you want to pretend otherwise go right ahead but expect people who actually know the first thing about business to call you delusional, because you are.[/QUOTE] I wasn't aware that you worked in business.
[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;48168991]I wasn't aware that you worked in business.[/QUOTE] cause you have to work in a field to know anything about it
Why do people hate her?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48168473]Glad to know that death threats, slanderous pages, libel and the sheer anger of people not wanting to have someone who prefers gender equality has helped in making someone who has actually allowed reddit to survive step down! Good job guys! /s[/QUOTE] yea ellen "removed pay negotiation because women suck at it" pao is great for gender equality
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48168473]Glad to know that death threats, slanderous pages, libel and the sheer anger of people not wanting to have someone who prefers gender equality has helped in making someone who has actually allowed reddit to survive step down! Good job guys! /s[/QUOTE] i cant tell if youre joking but she was actually a terrible CEO. it wasnt about what she stood up for.
So my conclusion is Reddit is one of the few communities that actually have the power to fire the CEO. Power to the mother fucking people.
I wonder what will happen if Steve fucks up as well. He's a straight/white/male--- what's he going to use as his excuse?
[QUOTE=geel9;48167532]Speaking as the CEO of a company mmmmgofuckyourself[/QUOTE] Out of curiosity, as a CEO what is a typical day like for you?
Do people honestly think that they pay someone millions of dollars just to sit around and be the scapegoat? If so, can I take whatever drugs they're on?
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;48169208]Out of curiosity, as a CEO what is a typical day like for you?[/QUOTE] [url]http://reddit.com/r/iama[/url]
[QUOTE] [B]Misogynist Tantrum Officially Drives Ellen Pao from Reddit[/B] After spending the last few months turning Reddit into a virtual guillotine for its widely despised CEO Ellen Pao, it looks like redditors are finally getting their wish. Ellen Pao is officially stepping down as CEO, and Steve Huffman, co-founder and original CEO, is taking her place. Speaking to Recode, Pao claimed that the decision to leave her role as interim CEO was a “mutual decision with the board, due in part to different views on growth potential. ‘They had a more aggressive view than I did,’ she said.” The real question, though, is whether Reddit users’ vast and unwavering hatred for Pao played a role in this supposed “mutual decision.” Obviously, having a huge number of users regularly comparing the site’s CEO to a variety of genocidal dictators isn’t something that would be tolerated for long. And nearly every unpopular decision the site’s made since Pao came into power has blamed almost entirely on her alone, a phenomenon that seems to have popped up as a direct response to the her former lawsuit against Kleiner Perkins for gender discrimination. All this despite there being very little indication that the various site-wide changes that enraged redditors (implementing anti-harassment guidelines, for one) were directly Pao’s fault. But that hasn’t stopped the site’s users from engaging in a perpetual, vicious virtual witch-hunt, which culminated in over 200,00 signatures on a Change.org petition asking for Pao’s removal. The most recent—and visible—protest on the site itself, though, was the mass revolt this past weekend, when moderators from every major subreddit temporarily turned their respective subs dark, all to protest the ousting of popular AMA coordinator Victoria Taylor.[/QUOTE] [url]http://gawker.com/ellen-pao-officially-replaced-as-reddit-ceo-updating-1717116420[/url] I can't wait for gawker to die and go away.
So how much you wanna bet the media will spin this one against the users again? Gawker's already doing it, who else will follow suit?
[QUOTE=Ta16;48170017][quote] 200,00 signatures[/quote][/QUOTE] two hundred hundred signatures.
[QUOTE=Ta16;48170017][url]http://gawker.com/ellen-pao-officially-replaced-as-reddit-ceo-updating-1717116420[/url] I can't wait for gawker to die and go away.[/QUOTE] Even these guys had to mention that the 'mass revolt' had to do with Victoria's removal. Knowing Gawker, they could've just easily failed to mention that part to reinforce the sexist sexism narrative.
I'm a little confused as to why people think it's a sexism thing. Most threads on Reddit discussing this resignation seem to assume it is(especially the Askreddit megathread), but not a whole lot that I've seen so far seems to link to it. Sure, there's hateful comments thrown around about how she was a bad CEO, but I really haven't seen any top comments that link her skills to simply being a woman. What's going on here?
[QUOTE=Water-Marine;48175576]I'm a little confused as to why people think it's a sexism thing. Most threads on Reddit discussing this resignation seem to assume it is(especially the Askreddit megathread), but not a whole lot that I've seen so far seems to link to it. Sure, there's hateful comments thrown around about how she was a bad CEO, but I really haven't seen any top comments that link her skills to simply being a woman. What's going on here?[/QUOTE] It's a deflection tactic being used to distract the uniformed of the actual criticisms.
[QUOTE=Scot;48167266]So weird to think of Reddit as a business with a CEO n shit.[/QUOTE] garry is the CEO of facepunch. Fuck that. He's king of the retards
[QUOTE=Swilly;48168814]Where was the harassment, and since when is a petition harassment? Like, are we not allowed to voice displeasure anymore? Is just wrong to say "This person is shit, get em outta here."[/QUOTE] you really didn't read my post, you muppet I said the petition was the good thing about it, and offensive tweets, harassment, death threats are bad [QUOTE=Swilly;48168823]Yeah, no, you're opinion is moot if you don't even know why she was shit. Hint:Not because of her lady parts.[/QUOTE] I actually know exactly why she had to go and I totally agree that she had to you drip, i'm saying that valid criticism is great but we're talking about a bunch of angry male teenagers trying to give valid criticism, of course its going to extend into harassment
[QUOTE=Mattk50;48168368]There is a big divide between the whatever amount of people that will probably send hatemail/mean messages and actual death threats. People who send actual death threats on the internet are not in such large number. Dont buy into kotaku's fearmongering on that subject. Like, seriously, a hundred thousand people sending death threats? get real, we barely got 150k to sign the [petition.[/QUOTE] They way I see it nobody deserves to go through what David Vonderhaar went through over people on the internet not being satisfied with how good you are at your internet job. Pao sucks, but if she isn't already numb to this kind of thing (she isnt) then seeing the kinds of things people are going to be saying about her as frequently as they'll be sending it directly to her, could be [I]really[/I] hurtful.
Wonder what the severance(sp?) pay is for her.
[QUOTE=Orki;48176277]Wonder what the severance(sp?) pay is for her.[/QUOTE] None. She's still an advisor on the board of directors, I wouldn't doubt it if she still had power within the company as well.
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