• 72% of parents think a video game ban would be good
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Alright, here's what goes on: Scenario 1: Parent does not give child any video games and they live a sheltered life, then they don't know how the world works because violent games like GTAIV teach them what NOT to do. Scenario 2: Parent lets their kid play whatever they want and they grow up to be a well-mannered adult because violent games like GTAIV taught them the wrong thing to do in society when they were a kid. See, all you have to do is tell a non-video-game parent that you don't get violence from games, you learn that violence has repercussions, because in GTAIV you either die or get arrested when running from the law, just like if you hurt or killed someone in real life.
Are they trying to prove Ryu-Gi was right or something?
[QUOTE=Kybalt;24848648]i think that story makes it pretty clear that that kid couldnt tell the difference between it being a game and a real thing.[/QUOTE] You're telling me that he's going to grow up and remember hanging out with his bro Roman and smelling of titties?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;24850002]You're telling me that he's going to grow up and remember hanging out with his bro Roman and smelling of titties?[/QUOTE] its likely.
[quote]Conducted by polling firm Zogby International, the survey asked 2,100 adults whether they would support a law that 'prohibits minors from purchasing ultra-violent or sexually violent video games without parental consent.' Of those surveyed, some 72 percent said they would approve such a law.[/quote] I bet they want it all for themselves.
I feel that videogames actually teach you stuff. If you actually play GTA because you want to run over a bunch of people on the sidewalk in real life then you're a sick person and shouldn't be living at all.
[QUOTE=Doomish;24849957]Alright, here's what goes on: Scenario 1: Parent does not give child any video games and they live a sheltered life, then they don't know how the world works because violent games like GTAIV teach them what NOT to do. Scenario 2: Parent lets their kid play whatever they want and they grow up to be a well-mannered adult because violent games like GTAIV taught them the wrong thing to do in society when they were a kid. See, all you have to do is tell a non-video-game parent that you don't get violence from games, you learn that violence has repercussions, because in GTAIV you either die or get arrested when running from the law, just like if you hurt or killed someone in real life.[/QUOTE] because necessarily not giving children video games means they live a sheltered life. [editline]06:54PM[/editline] [QUOTE=W00tbeer1;24850604]I feel that videogames actually teach you stuff. If you actually play GTA because you want to run over a bunch of people on the sidewalk in real life then you're a sick person and shouldn't be living at all.[/QUOTE] 12yo kid comes home from school each day and plays MW2 for hours. What's he learning pray tell?
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;24847137]Most books and movies have much more meaning than video games. With the possible exception of Bioshock.[/QUOTE] Thanks for throwing out the Fallout Series, Half Life, Darwinia, Portal, World in Conflict, Uncharted 1 & 2, Mass Effect 1 & 2, Star Wars:Knights of the Old Republic, inFamous, Resistance:Fall of Man and Resistance 2 and a bunch of other story driven games. Seriously, you just sounded like English teacher when she told me that the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy isn't considered literature because its too silly to have a serious lesson in it when it does.
MW2 is a terrible example.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;24850614]because necessarily not giving children video games means they live a sheltered life. [editline]06:54PM[/editline] 12yo kid comes home from school each day and plays MW2 for hours. What's he learning pray tell?[/QUOTE] Oh okay, Watch MTV, what is gained? Fox News? The Jewerly Channel? Or how about the fishing channels and cooking channels.
[QUOTE=Swilly;24850693]Thanks for throwing out the Fallout Series, Half Life, Darwinia, Portal, World in Conflict, Uncharted 1 & 2, Mass Effect 1 & 2, Star Wars:Knights of the Old Republic, inFamous, Resistance:Fall of Man and Resistance 2 and a bunch of other story driven games. Seriously, you just sounded like English teacher when she told me that the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy isn't considered literature because its too silly to have a serious lesson in it when it does.[/QUOTE] This is why I said MOST.
what if he comes home and plays professor layton?
[QUOTE=Swilly;24850720]Oh okay, Watch MTV, what is gained?[/QUOTE] I didn't say MTV was good either now did I. [QUOTE=Habsburg;24850723]what if he comes home and plays professor layton?[/QUOTE] Then that's good, but he's more likely to play MW2.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;24847137]Most books and movies have much more meaning than video games. With the possible exception of Bioshock.[/QUOTE] Yeah I'll give you that. Most games would play out like B-movies if they weren't video games.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;24850722]This is why I said MOST.[/QUOTE] I'm fucking too lazy to name them all. There are a lot more than you think buddy. Hell GTA is actually a very story driven game with compelling characters and ties you in to want to know what happens next. You just see the random slaughtering and thats what you associate with the game.
[QUOTE=Swilly;24850776]I'm fucking too lazy to name them all. There are a lot more than you think buddy. Hell GTA is actually a very story driven game with compelling characters and ties you in to want to know what happens next. You just see the random slaughtering and thats what you associate with the game.[/QUOTE] I've played GTA. Never finished GTA4 so I couldn't really say much about that though.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;24850806]I've played GTA. Never finished GTA4 so I couldn't really say much about that though.[/QUOTE] Did you actually pay attention to the story?
GTA 4 had a really great story. Still revolved around killing people though. [editline]05:06PM[/editline] which GTA are you two talking about?
[QUOTE=Habsburg;24850880]GTA 4 had a really great story. Still revolved around killing people though. [editline]05:06PM[/editline] which GTA are you two talking about?[/QUOTE] Any of them really...4 though was especially good. Tragic Hero at its finest.
Video games like the Legend of Zelda helped me read and thanks to most video games, I'm the only person in most of my classes that understands the word "generalization" completely.
[QUOTE=Habsburg;24850880]GTA 4 had a really great story. Still revolved around killing people though.[/QUOTE] Boy did it! GTA iv was the only one I could seriously play. The rest were too cartoony for my likings. You can really connect with Niko-They made the story so believable. The rest of the GTAs were kind of mindless IMO. GTAs just give freedom, which soccermoms do not like-hence the sheltering. They like linearity. GTA4 doesn't really focus on the brutal stuff, it just happens and is part of the story. [b]What you do after the story shouldn't really be criticized by the government - it's up to the player. They hand you the world to mess with, which you can do if you'd like. It's no more than you buying a pencil to write. You can write good stuff or bad stuff. The pencil maker doesn't get in trouble, nor should it.[/b]
[QUOTE=Afgman;24847343]Parents are too lazy and now they want the Gov. to do everything for them, but I hate using this term but I think the parents are lazy Americans.[/QUOTE] I see a conspiracy theory in that statement. The Government is somehow making people lazy so they can extend their controll further and further! :tinfoil:
I wonder when they find out that it's actually quite the opposite. Video games don't cause kids to have mental issues to do stuff like kill people, as it turns out, they were messed up in the head before and decided to play video games. At least that's what I think. Also, 72% of parents my ass. It's all a selective bias. I know for a fact that my parents don't give two shits about video game violence, they actually play the video games with me.
[QUOTE=Zareox7;24851167]I wonder when they find out that it's actually quite the opposite. Video games don't cause kids to have mental issues to do stuff like kill people, as it turns out, they were messed up in the head before and decided to play video games. At least that's what I think. Also, 72% of parents my ass. It's all a selective bias. I know for a fact that my parents don't give two shits about video game violence, they actually play the video games with me.[/QUOTE] You are lucky. My parents say the games are far too complicated to be playable. Probably an excuse so they don't get addicted :P
Video games (Age of Empires specifically) taught me about ancient empires and Joan of Arc and William Wallace.
[QUOTE=implaying8;24851209]You are lucky. My parents say the games are far too complicated to be playable. Probably an excuse so they don't get addicted :P[/QUOTE] I tried to get my mom to play Portal once and she had so much trouble.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;24851281]Video games (Age of Empires specifically) taught me about ancient empires and Joan of Arc and William Wallace.[/QUOTE] rated wrench They do have a slight educational value that always seems overlooked. Even Half-Life 2 teaches you stuff. All the stuff they talk about are real theories if you look it up.
72% of parents shouldn't buy video games for their children.
[QUOTE=Habsburg;24851297]I tried to get my mom to play Portal once and she had so much trouble.[/QUOTE] My parents aren't even old. They just grew up with Atari 2600s, NESes, Commodore64s, and other computer/game systems. Sad thing is, it's not hard to learn it, and no matter how many times I tell them, the refuse to admit it. You have to experiment with the controls- you just don't get it right away. You have to go through a period of sucking.
Just another day in the 21st century: parents being stupid. [QUOTE=implaying8;24851209]You are lucky. My parents say the games are far too complicated to be playable. Probably an excuse so they don't get addicted :P[/QUOTE] Mine do that too. My dad plays a few of the games I enjoy though.
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