• France will prosecute any news agency that publishes Macron internet leaks
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[quote]France’s electoral commission warned media and internet users that they could face criminal prosecution for publishing documents obtained in a “massive and coordinated hacking attack” on the presidential frontrunner Emmanuel Macron’s political movement. The commission, which held an emergency meeting to discuss the leak, said some of the documents appeared to contain “false information”. Thousands of internal En Marche! (On the Move!) documents were published on the internet an hour before the Friday midnight deadline for the start of a campaign blackout, meaning neither Macron nor his far-right Front National rival Marine Le Pen was allowed to respond. France’s presidential electoral authority, the CNCCEP, asked the media to avoid transmitting information from the leaked documents and reminded them of their responsibilities given the “seriousness of the election”. “This attack has resulted in the publication of a number of important documents presented as having come from the information system of the candidate and the message accounts of certain of their campaign officials on certain social networks,” it wrote after the meeting on Saturday. “The commission stresses that the dissemination or republication of such information, fraudulently obtained and which may, in all likelihood, have been mixed with false information, is liable to be classified as criminal in several respects for which its authors will be held responsible.”[/quote] [url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/06/french-warned-not-to-publish-emmanuel-macron-leaks[/url]
I don't know if this is a good thing or not. It's obviously a hack intended to influence the elections, but banning it won't make a difference anyways and it would just make the retards claim "d-d-d-dictator!"
Considering that INTERPOL is a thing, this probably applies to pretty much all countries. Though someone will probably still publish those documents either way.
From the Article I posted [QUOTE][B]Jack Posobiec, a journalist with the far-right news outlet The Rebel[/B], [I][B]was the first to use the hashtag with a link to the hacked documents online[/B][/I], which was then shared more widely by WikiLeaks. Mr. Posobiec remains the second-most mentioned individual on Twitter in connection with the hashtag behind WikiLeaks, according to a review of the past 100,000 Twitter posts published since late Friday.[/QUOTE]
Didn't someone else say this is SOP during French Elections?
awfully strange
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52194901]Didn't someone else say this is SOP during French Elections?[/QUOTE] I presume so, France has an election news blackout.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52194901]Didn't someone else say this is SOP during French Elections?[/QUOTE] French law and tradition dictate time for quiet reflection on the candidates the day before the election. This attack was time so that the mainstream french media could not fact-check the contents of the leak and the Macron campaign could not explain or refute the contents while bloggers and other Le Pen people freely share the damaging information/lies about Macron. It's a genius way to take advantage of the rules.
[QUOTE=person11;52194928]French law and tradition dictate time for quiet reflection on the candidates the day before the election. This attack was time so that the mainstream french media could not fact-check the contents of the leak and the Macron campaign could not explain or refute the contents while bloggers and other Le Pen people freely share the damaging information/lies about Macron. It's a genius way to take advantage of the rules.[/QUOTE] Russia is winning the cold war thus far
[QUOTE=person11;52194928]French law and tradition dictate time for quiet reflection on the candidates the day before the election. This attack was time so that the mainstream french media could not fact-check the contents of the leak and the Macron campaign could not explain or refute the contents while bloggers and other Le Pen people freely share the damaging information/lies about Macron. It's a genius way to take advantage of the rules.[/QUOTE] I haven't been following too closely, there are leaked emails but what damaging info and lies are circulating?
[QUOTE=person11;52194928]French law and tradition dictate time for quiet reflection on the candidates the day before the election. This attack was time so that the mainstream french media could not fact-check the contents of the leak and the Macron campaign could not explain or refute the contents while bloggers and other Le Pen people freely share the damaging information/lies about Macron. It's a genius way to take advantage of the rules.[/QUOTE] It doesn't seem to actually work all that well considering without news coverage, it doesn't reach those who aren't in alt-right echo chambers to begin with. Only those who read non-French press are aware of it, and it doesn't seems to do that much of a buzz on social media outside of FN voters who have trouble reaching other electorates.
[QUOTE=Mitchd247;52194915]awfully strange[/QUOTE] Not really, this has apparently been law for quite some time. If anything, the fact that the attack was timed to occur right in tune with it is evidence that the leak was specifically carried out to influence the French election.
[QUOTE=froztshock;52194991]If anything, the fact that the attack was timed to occur right in tune with it is evidence that the leak was specifically carried out to influence the French election.[/QUOTE] Which in turn severely damages its credibility.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;52194958]Russia is winning the cold war thus far[/QUOTE] I feel like this will be the crux of Russia's international scheming. If Le Pen becomes president, it's the end of France in the EU. Without France, the EU will crumble. With the EU crumbled, Russian political (and possibly physical) influence will spread across Europe. After that, it'll just be China and the US itself to contend with Russian world influence.
^ Get a load of this paranoic. You need to see your doctor and get your prescription chill pills. [editline]7th May 2017[/editline] EU will only crumble if Germany decides that it's over.
[QUOTE=maniacykt;52196749]^ Get a load of this paranoic. You need to see your doctor and get your prescription chill pills. [editline]7th May 2017[/editline] EU will only crumble if Germany decides that it's over.[/QUOTE] says a russian, lol
[QUOTE=maniacykt;52196749]^ Get a load of this paranoic. You need to see your doctor and get your prescription chill pills. [editline]7th May 2017[/editline] EU will only crumble if Germany decides that it's over.[/QUOTE] Please explain why Russia is funding not only Le Pen's party but also other far right wing parties in Europe? Maybe you should read more about what your country is doing in the west before calling people paranoid. You can start by reading Kremlin's Playbook. Btw France and Germany are both the most important EU members, it would have a pretty big impact if France left.
Will there be a thread for updating the French voting and polls and stuff like that? Does France have exit polls?
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52197129]Will there be a thread for updating the French voting and polls and stuff like that? Does France have exit polls?[/QUOTE] Exit polls are forbidden for French news sources, foreign ones do publish some though. Participation this morning was consistent with the first round, there probably won't be more abstention.
So this will just make news agencies less important and turn people to other sources, ok great.
Jeez, are we having a rerun of the USA Elections? After that I am a bit scared of Far Right leaders getting in. [editline]7th May 2017[/editline] Ones like Donald Trump and Pauline Hanson at least.
[QUOTE=Xonax;52197265]Jeez, are we having a rerun of the USA Elections? After that I am a bit scared of Far Right leaders getting in. [editline]7th May 2017[/editline] Ones like Donald Trump and Pauline Hanson at least.[/QUOTE] Well, here's the thing, she's not far right just a nationalist. People calling her far right just because of her immigration stance is really odd considering her other views, esp. considering she wants integration instead of kicking them out. I know if I were far right I wouldn't want them integrated, I'd want them all deported now. Macron is more rightist. He's closer to the republicans than the democrats, for example. But they're both 'socialist' compared to the US parties.
[QUOTE=Anteep;52197278]Well, here's the thing, she's not far right just a nationalist. People calling her far right just because of her immigration stance is really odd considering her other views, esp. considering she wants integration instead of kicking them out. I know if I were far right I wouldn't want them integrated, I'd want them all deported now. Macron is more rightist. He's closer to the republicans than the democrats, for example. But they're both 'socialist' compared to the US parties.[/QUOTE] in my opinion, you can't just call someone "left" or "right" nowadays, and the meme political compass might be more accurate to define someone politically. plus, can we really say Hitler was far right ? he was a national socialist after all.
[QUOTE=Factemius;52197325]in my opinion, you can't just call someone "left" or "right" nowadays, and the meme political compass might be more accurate to define someone politically. plus, can we really say Hitler was far right ? he was a national socialist after all.[/QUOTE] the socialist part was promising to make germany great again and give people jobs........
[QUOTE=Factemius;52197325]in my opinion, you can't just call someone "left" or "right" nowadays, and the meme political compass might be more accurate to define someone politically. plus, can we really say Hitler was far right ? he was a national socialist after all.[/QUOTE] the "socialist" part of national socialism in germany is mostly nominal, much like how the word "democratic" or "republic" functions in any country that calls itself "Democratic republic of X"
[QUOTE=Anteep;52197278]He's closer to the republicans than the democrats, for example. But they're both 'socialist' compared to the US parties.[/QUOTE] Macron isn't at all like the Republicans He's a centrist social-liberal guy, republicans are very very very conservative-liberal He's more like the current form of the democratic party, ideologically.
[QUOTE=Factemius;52197325]plus, can we really say Hitler was far right ? he was a national socialist after all.[/QUOTE] [t]https://my.mixtape.moe/qwwceh.png[/t] saying hitler is a socialist is like saying bernie is a sultan
[QUOTE=Qaus;52197424][t]https://my.mixtape.moe/qwwceh.png[/t] saying hitler is a socialist is like saying bernie is a sultan[/QUOTE] The Nazi Party implemented socialist policies.
[QUOTE=Tudd;52197533]The Nazi Party implemented socialist policies.[/QUOTE] But then they stopped once their power were secured. It was never really part of their doctrine.
[QUOTE=Tudd;52197533]The Nazi Party implemented socialist policies.[/QUOTE] And you know from the fact this is your area of study, as you've said before, that besides these policies (which ones? I've never heard of those policies), they were not socialist, they were capitalistic who had a mixture of private and public works, but essentially controlled by a central totalitarian dictatorship - and everything they did was aimed towards that.
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