This is it: Libyan rebels hit Zawiya - just 22 miles from Tripoli and the capital's final supply rou
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Well it does not matter because when they make it to the gates of Tripoli Qaddafi will gas them and since I'm predicting the rebels have no gas it will be a massacre and once they use gas they won't stop.
Imagine if after Gaddafi is gone the Libyans decided to form a communistic republic.
I would love to see the american reactions.
[QUOTE=Mr.T;31724892]It's just going to be the same thing again, look at Egypt, the extremists are coming to power.[/QUOTE]
Nope.
This might sound incredibly pessimistic, but fundamentalist will probably use the revolution to take power.
[QUOTE=the-dutch-guy;31726573]This might sound incredibly pessimistic, but fundamentalist will probably use the revolution to take power.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr.T;31724892]It's just going to be the same thing again, look at Egypt, the extremists are coming to power. I think it was good the dictators was here because they kept the extremists at a low level. But on the other hand I really dislike the dictators. I don't know what to go for here. I'll just wait and see.[/QUOTE]
Why can't anybody figure out that this revolution isn't about ideology or power? The fundamentalists are fighting alongside the secular people, they're united as a collective people for freedom and democracy. All this cynicalism towards the entire Middle Eastern movement as "Oh it will all just be the same and nothing good will come from it" is incredibly foolish
An NTC document actually leaked to the Times about a week ago detailing what they will do when Tripoli falls to restore security and stop extremists from seizing power. It also said they've learned from Iraq about how [I]not[/I] to do it and will be keeping vital infrastructure from Gaddafi's government to avoid insurgency.
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8688002/Rebel-blueprint-for-Libya-revealed.html[/url]
You can do it Gaddafi!
[QUOTE=GeneralFredrik;31725978]Why? Please, for the love of my brain and my sanity, WHY do you feel sorry for the scumbag that is Gadaffi?[/QUOTE]
Well, because he brought Libya on it's feet.
I also tend to support him because of bullshit NATO decision of invasion which I find hard to justify.
And, by the way, I'm too lazy to edit my last post but I just want to say that you should give disagrees instead of boxes. Everyone has a right to opinion and that was mine. If you disagree - ok, it's your choice and I respect it, but it doesn't make me dumb in any way I think.
[QUOTE=Ringo_Satu;31728573]Well, because he brought Libya on it's feet.
I also tend to support him because of bullshit NATO decision of invasion which I find hard to justify.
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Hitler did good things for Germany, do you support him? Evil people do good things, you can't just look past all the evil things these people do because they do good things.
Also not an invasion, get your facts right.
[QUOTE=Jsm;31728606]Hitler did good things for Germany, do you support him? Evil people do good things, you can't just look past all the evil things these people do because they do good things.
Also not an invasion, get your facts right.[/QUOTE]
Well, even Gandhi supported Hitler, you know.
And it was an invasion by it's nature. There were far worse things happening at that moment.
[QUOTE=Ringo_Satu;31728573]Well, because he brought Libya on it's feet.
I also tend to support him because of bullshit NATO decision of invasion which I find hard to justify.
And, by the way, I'm too lazy to edit my last post but I just want to say that you should give disagrees instead of boxes. Everyone has a right to opinion and that was mine. If you disagree - ok, it's your choice and I respect it, but it doesn't make me dumb in any way I think.[/QUOTE]
You realise you basically just said you support the use of airpower on unarmed civilians aswell, right?
[QUOTE=Bad)-(and;31728800]You realise you basically just said you support the use of airpower on unarmed civilians aswell, right?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I do, but that's what happens when you oppose regime even though it does nothing bad for you.
You expect Lukashenka to do different shit if the same would happen to him? Nope.
[QUOTE=Ringo_Satu;31728850]Yes, I do, but that's what happens when you oppose regime even though it does nothing bad for you.
You expect Lukashenka to do different shit if the same would happen to him? Nope.[/QUOTE]Lukashenko doesn't do anything bad to Belarus? Really? But actually yes I think he wouldn't be worse than Libya or Syria.
The belarussian people aren't even revolting so "liberating" them won't work out.
At worst they just unite under Lukashenko's banner against the invaders.
So I have no fucking idea what Belarus and libya have to do with each other.
[QUOTE=Ringo_Satu;31728573]Well, because he brought Libya on it's feet.[/QUOTE]
You seem to be forgetting the part where he thinks shooting innocent people, starving and bombing his own cities is okay. And torturing people who opposed him because that's totally something you should be supporting right?
[QUOTE=Ringo_Satu;31728573]I also tend to support him because of bullshit NATO decision of invasion which I find hard to justify.[/QUOTE]
What invasion? I didn't know NATO sent troops and tanks to his frontdoor. I only remember NATO bombing his forces.
Good.
[QUOTE=Bombardier.;31724288]That's how sieges work, unfortunantly.[/QUOTE]
Thats what I'm saying, it will probably better to have a full assault then a siege.
[QUOTE=Ringo_Satu;31724800]This is fucking bullshit. I'm sorry for Gadaffi.[/QUOTE]
Remove your "The WHO" avatar, you don't deserve it.
[QUOTE=Ringo_Satu;31728697]Well, even Gandhi supported Hitler, you know.
And it was an invasion by it's nature. There were far worse things happening at that moment.[/QUOTE]
Ha...haha. Gandhi realized what Hitler was doing, he even wrote a letter to him pleading him to stop. Just because a very popular figure once supported the most evil person on Earth does not make him any less evil.
How the Hell is NATO invading? I don't see any troop transports or beach heads being established on Libyan shores.
If any of you remember that conservative fuckwit Bllasae, I just talked to him on Steam, he had this to say:
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3:26 PM - Bllasae: gadaffi ftw
3:26 PM - ☭RCP☭ Kim Il-Dash: o_O
3:27 PM - ☭RCP☭ Kim Il-Dash: Just to be clear, you don't actually support Gaddafi do you?
3:28 PM - Bllasae: yes i doi
3:28 PM - Bllasae: but i'm busy man okay
3:28 PM - ☭RCP☭ Kim Il-Dash: Why?
3:28 PM - Bllasae: playing civ3
3:28 PM - ☭RCP☭ Kim Il-Dash: It's not like terrorists are going to take over
3:28 PM - ☭RCP☭ Kim Il-Dash: There is a stable provisional government
3:28 PM - Bllasae: the rebels are terrorists
3:28 PM - ☭RCP☭ Kim Il-Dash: ...
3:28 PM - Bllasae: I'M FUCKIN BUSY
3:28 PM - Bllasae: STFU
3:28 PM - ☭RCP☭ Kim Il-Dash: Wait
3:28 PM - ☭RCP☭ Kim Il-Dash: Wait wait wait wait wait
3:29 PM - ☭RCP☭ Kim Il-Dash: Implying Gaddafi does not support terrorism?
3:31 PM - Bllasae: seriously
3:31 PM - Bllasae: FUCKING CIV3
3:31 PM - ☭RCP☭ Kim Il-Dash: I get it
3:31 PM - ☭RCP☭ Kim Il-Dash: But I can't leave someone alone if they're saying something like that
3:32 PM - Bllasae: alright let me help you then
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I seriously want him to kill himself.
I knew he was a staunch conservative, but I didn't know he was a fan of authoritarianism.
[QUOTE=Ringo_Satu;31728697]Well, even Gandhi supported Hitler, you know.
And it was an invasion by it's nature. There were far worse things happening at that moment.[/QUOTE]
No, he did not support Hitler, but he did not hate him either. "Supporting" someone and having a non-belligerent attitude are two completely different things.
And no, it's not an invasion if there's no NATO boots on the ground, and there isn't.
[quote]Well, because he brought Libya on it's feet.[/quote]
And he's stabbing Libya in the face by shelling his own people. On top of that his regime has a horrible human rights record.
[quote]I also tend to support him because of bullshit NATO decision of invasion which I find hard to justify.[/quote]
Intervention=/=invasion. And this intervention happened specifically because the rebels asked NATO to. It's justifiable to me and to those with common sense.
[quote]If you disagree - ok, it's your choice and I respect it, but it doesn't make me dumb in any way I think. [/quote]
Correct. However, your opinion seems incredibly underdeveloped and, I'm sorry to be blunt, but half-assed.
oh man cnn better be there i want to see a live stream from the city
I would kill for a cool-ass map. Noone has a cool-ass map.
[QUOTE=DarkCisco;31735941]oh man cnn better be there i want to see a live stream from the city[/QUOTE]
Anderson Cooper would look so sexy in a turban.
:fapfapfapfapfapfap:
The world will be a much better place if the good guys win this one.
I wish I could afford to get a plane ticket to Tunisia so I could join in on the rebels cause.. even though Im not Libyan :v:
[editline]14th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=SNNS-SEAN;31731020]If any of you remember that conservative fuckwit Bllasae, I just talked to him on Steam, he had this to say:
I seriously want him to kill himself.[/QUOTE]
He is clearly trying to troll you.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;31721510]Do we know how many of the government troops are there in Tripoli.[/QUOTE]
I'd say around 10,000, minimum, but then again, they're insurgents. They can do a lot of things professional armies can't. They can do things much more secretly and they can wreak havoc on major forces. So I see the rebels kicking Ghadaffi's soldiers' asses in a series of attacks and ambushes, and then going in for the rush.
Either that or they can attack their supply lines, ambush their convoys delivering food to Ghadaffi's troops, blow up their armor (tanks, etc.), and raid barracks and steal weapons, and get them to surrender without even launching a major offensive. That's what I'd do if I were in Libya.
I'm just gonna come out and say that anybody who honestly supports Gaddafi after he began the massacre onto his own people is really, really retarded
The people are just sure that because they are muslims and rebels it means that they are TERRORISTS.
I like how NATO is completely over stepping the resolution and yet no one it trying to stop them, I can't to see facepunch cry when gaddafi beats the rebels once he starts using gas which he should have done a long time ago.
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